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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-06 23:34:03
December 06 2017 23:10 GMT
#26661
Stuff like bleed and poison are still decent or like, trashcan still ?

Wait rip Berserker Vaal Pact ? Dafuq. Reflect change is cool though.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-06 23:36:59
December 06 2017 23:32 GMT
#26662
On December 07 2017 07:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Keep in mind neither your arcane surge trick nor your belt of the deceiver work in 3.1

I know about the belt. It can be replaced by Doryani's Invitation.
But what is this about the arcane surge trick? Arcane surge+Immortal Call?

EDIT:
I found this:
Fixed the displayed duration of Innervation and Arcane Surge on skills which have their own duration modifiers.

But that wording is not clear. I will need to test it once 3.1 hits.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-06 23:34:29
December 06 2017 23:33 GMT
#26663
Bleed will usually be a nice dps boost against bosses if you play a phys focussed build that travels close around Crimson Dance and uses gems like Ruthless, Brutality, Melee Phys and Maim.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 00:55:12
December 06 2017 23:42 GMT
#26664
Also

The only way that you can leech more than your maximum leech rate is by having increased recovery of life, which is provided by a few sources, notably (Scion) Trickster and the Soul of Akaali Pantheon power. If you get 100% increased recovery you could get up to 116% of your life regenerated per second by leech.


Huh never knew this before.

Also ever since Sacrifice of the Vaal Acuity price has risen and fallen so many times it's hilarious.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
December 07 2017 03:57 GMT
#26665
Poison can be built around and it can clear most of the game, but it's not very good (relatively). You can't leech from it and have to build up poison stacks. you can see a mathil build here + Show Spoiler +


Bleed is in a similar boat. with enough investment / using suitable OP items / gems it can work, but it's not amazing. Can look at this build + Show Spoiler +
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1951094


tbh of the ailments that were nerfed in 3.0, I think ignite might actually be the worst off.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 04:04:28
December 07 2017 04:02 GMT
#26666
On December 06 2017 22:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
So if I want to play a harder/more expensive build like flicker strike for example, should I be rolling something easy to blast through content and farm first? Is that what people do? Cause I don't know if I have the patience to level/gear two characters in a league.

you can start as the build you want to play, if you dont think you'll have the time / patience to play two chars. It will be slower at the beginning but it's definitely doable. One league I started as Blade Vortex Pathfinder, one of the most expensive and OP builds at the time (pre nerfed flasks all 3-5 ex), but I was glad I did it.

doing a stronger / cheaper starter is mostly if you want to be most efficient in Day 1-3, where a lot of currency / progression can be made. Struggling in T1-5 maps with gear dependent builds (like wander or bow) can be frustrating, but for some it is less frustrating than playing something you don't enjoy (like sunder or SRS).

but yea like people said, you could build your tree to suit flicker, but just use sunder or lacerate or something until flicker is sustainable / safe
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 05:23:04
December 07 2017 05:15 GMT
#26667
The new mods are absolutely busted!
www.pathofexile.com

Also, Mirage Archer is basically ~35% more dmg multiplier, except it has really good QoL. I'm fairly sure you have no reason not to use it in most builds. Mostly with that 5-9 cold dmg bow per 10 dex. Because that damage is nuts.

And Ancestral Call has only 19% less damage. It looks really good on paper, but I think it will feel a bit worse than it looks.

Finally, most of the new skills look pretty weak, except Volatile Dead. It's the highest DPS spell in the game if I'm reading it correctly, but obviously needing 3 corpses per cast is a huge drawback. At least, it has potential, while I just don't see it for the rest.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 07 2017 05:42 GMT
#26668
I'm not really sure which part of volatile dead's damage is dealt at which point

If it deals all of it all the time, its going to mess some shit up
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
December 07 2017 05:52 GMT
#26669
I think the initial explosion is 3% max life, and the fireball is the listed fire damage. And only the fireball scales with spell damage. But you still get 3 per cast, and iirc, in the video they had a decent AoE and auto-aim. Plus you can spell cascade for basically double dmg since it will shotgun.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 06:15:13
December 07 2017 06:07 GMT
#26670
Isn't Unearth a better EK with 100% pierce ?? That 0.6 cast time and 6 base crit.

7 added cold dmg per 10 dex on a weapon. How have I seen that before. Probably end up as last time too, aka absolutely broken.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 06:56:17
December 07 2017 06:54 GMT
#26671
The new gems and the afiix on that bow have kind of sold me on Ice Shot Raider. Maybe still not as the starter character, but definitely something to grind toward fast while keeping a close eye out for shaped/elder items. Volley sounds like a neat alternative to GMP to try, and Mirage Archer sounds a lot better than I expected? But might be kind of useless if you're already clearing the screen in 1-2 shots so I'm not sure. Either way neat stuff.

That wand seems good too lol. So is "Shaped/Elder items" basically just base yellow drops that roll with random essence/lab-like affixes?

Edit: oh no it says they CAN be CRAFTED to have those properties... so is there going to be a new artisan?
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 07 2017 07:52 GMT
#26672
On December 07 2017 15:54 Duka08 wrote:
The new gems and the afiix on that bow have kind of sold me on Ice Shot Raider. Maybe still not as the starter character, but definitely something to grind toward fast while keeping a close eye out for shaped/elder items. Volley sounds like a neat alternative to GMP to try, and Mirage Archer sounds a lot better than I expected? But might be kind of useless if you're already clearing the screen in 1-2 shots so I'm not sure. Either way neat stuff.

That wand seems good too lol. So is "Shaped/Elder items" basically just base yellow drops that roll with random essence/lab-like affixes?

Edit: oh no it says they CAN be CRAFTED to have those properties... so is there going to be a new artisan?

According to the item info there are "ElderItem True" / "ShaperItem True" properties, implying they're effectively completely new base types that can roll different mods.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3453 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 08:04:01
December 07 2017 08:01 GMT
#26673
Wth we have a build-in trade site now but no one thought that was important to inform me ah
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 07 2017 09:02 GMT
#26674
Because it sucks.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 09:38:08
December 07 2017 09:36 GMT
#26675
The cold damage per DEX is busted indeed, but I won't build around it because it might get nerfed before 3.1 even happens AND will probably be absurdly rare. If GGG is super dumb they also made the same mod for STR with fire damage (for maximum imba) and for INT with lightning damage.

Hope the Mirage Archer gem stays like that, it'll probably be worth using and looks very fun.

Oh and yeah, poe.trade is still king for me. I like the layout much more than the one from official trade site.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 10:21:57
December 07 2017 10:15 GMT
#26676
On December 07 2017 18:36 HolydaKing wrote:
The cold damage per DEX is busted indeed, but I won't build around it because it might get nerfed before 3.1 even happens AND will probably be absurdly rare. If GGG is super dumb they also made the same mod for STR with fire damage (for maximum imba) and for INT with lightning damage.

Hope the Mirage Archer gem stays like that, it'll probably be worth using and looks very fun.

Oh and yeah, poe.trade is still king for me. I like the layout much more than the one from official trade site.

While Poe.trade has better UI (or we are used to it more) the real question is if it still has problems of not updating new listings and sold listings fast enough?
And does using official trade site make that better?
Anyone tested both?

Selling through Poe.trade during Harbinger meant people messaging you to buy your sold item for 15 minutes to 30 min after you sold it. Also buying others sold items meant getting lots of "I already sold it messages."
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-07 11:40:11
December 07 2017 11:39 GMT
#26677
On December 07 2017 19:15 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2017 18:36 HolydaKing wrote:
The cold damage per DEX is busted indeed, but I won't build around it because it might get nerfed before 3.1 even happens AND will probably be absurdly rare. If GGG is super dumb they also made the same mod for STR with fire damage (for maximum imba) and for INT with lightning damage.

Hope the Mirage Archer gem stays like that, it'll probably be worth using and looks very fun.

Oh and yeah, poe.trade is still king for me. I like the layout much more than the one from official trade site.

While Poe.trade has better UI (or we are used to it more) the real question is if it still has problems of not updating new listings and sold listings fast enough?
And does using official trade site make that better?
Anyone tested both?

Selling through Poe.trade during Harbinger meant people messaging you to buy your sold item for 15 minutes to 30 min after you sold it. Also buying others sold items meant getting lots of "I already sold it messages."

It wasnt 15-30 min , that was only for like a few days cause of overload and too many people, usually its 2-5 min max.

Yes it has been tested, result was basically the same with like a 1 second difference.
Actual trade program to detect items was still way faster (altho stated by GGG to not use it too much as it strains the servers)
Bleed is in a similar boat. with enough investment / using suitable OP items / gems it can work, but it's not amazing. Can look at this build

Played this build actually and the bleed part was absolutely laughable, propably better to ignore most of the build and just go big dps swords if you like swords that much.(all contents doable but thats mostly cause of BF, and a different set up will most certainly be better)
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 07 2017 11:55 GMT
#26678
If you don't like poe.trade, poeapp is a good alternative with it's own advantages (e.g. browser address bar search). Between the two you kind of cover all your bases. No reason to use the official one whatsoever.
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
December 07 2017 12:01 GMT
#26679
poe.trade and the official site have the same item listings, right? They both look really similar so I guess it'll come down to personal preference whether you use one or the other
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
December 07 2017 12:33 GMT
#26680
The league hype is real. I want to play so badly, but all I do now is roll a character, get to maps, find something I dont like about the build and can't play it anymore. Repeat 5-6 times and in abut 2 weeks I'm burned out. It's actually starting to piss me off, last time I got 36 challenges was in Prophecy, or maybe Legacy? Don't remember.

Maybe I should try a meta spellcaster build, something that can do red maps and as many map mods as possible (I hate rerolling maps unless I do it for an challenge or something). With VP getting ripd, where does that put me? Firestorm totems? Frostbolt?
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