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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
September 05 2017 04:22 GMT
#26101
I hear Strand got nerfed, but how exactly? I know pre-3.0 it was a popular map to shape and spam, and it's easy to see why. Narrow and efficient. Is it "bad" now? Or more in line with other options
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 05 2017 04:34 GMT
#26102
Massive reduction in monster density.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 05 2017 06:11 GMT
#26103
On September 05 2017 13:22 Duka08 wrote:
I hear Strand got nerfed, but how exactly? I know pre-3.0 it was a popular map to shape and spam, and it's easy to see why. Narrow and efficient. Is it "bad" now? Or more in line with other options

Strand was nerfed multiple times. Now it was just nerfed to almost uselessness.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 05 2017 06:54 GMT
#26104
On September 05 2017 11:40 Kickstart wrote:
The moral grandstanding just irks me. Its a simple joke of 'damn she is hot how the fuck did you manage that' which is a joke that is fucking old, common, and harmless. If anything it is complimentary to the GF, saying that she is very attractive. Now we've had two pages of useless discussion completely unrelated to POE because sobek decided to let everyone know how awful it is for friends to joke around with each other.

I dunno this thread is usually pretty tame, I think it's a welcome change of pace.

Without really thinking I shaped strand this league, I feel like it was a mistake but the map is okay ish because the layout is still amazing. It only gets terrible if you're playing a low movespeed build, because there's a bit further between packs than before.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 05 2017 07:01 GMT
#26105
Price check!

So I found one of these:
Sol Splinter Cobalt Jewel

9% Increased Damage
4%Increased Cast Speed with Lightning Skills
+11% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier
7% Increased Maximum Life

So...apparently this can be worth a lot? I made the hilarious mistake of pricing it at 2c and immediately got spammed by 50 people in 2 seconds lol.

Looking up similar jewels some of them are going for 100c-300c with the 4th stat being +damage with Staves or Daggers or whatever, but also worth noting, none of them have the 7% life mod, the others are all lower.

Any idea what I should be looking for here?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 05 2017 07:41 GMT
#26106
This can be pretty good for spark nova if that is a popular build this league. When looking at prices of similar jewels also look at how long it has been listed. If it is 1 week or more than the price they are asking is too big and you cannot do the same.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 05 2017 11:04 GMT
#26107
OK not sure what to do with my Gladiator Blade Vortex. I need to decide which 6L armor to buy. I will list pros for both and maybe I can get some advice/opinion from you guys. I will list them in order I am currently leaning towards
Note I am MoM and I got about 100 more mana than what is perfect for a balanced life/mana ratio. Also all my dependable leech is life only. I can leech mana only when Tempest Shield curses enemies with Warlord's Cry.

#1 The Covenant: more dps (about 12k vs map bosses); life +mana gained comes to about equal EHP; lets me use life for casting leaving all my mana for MoM usage which helps vs multiple bigger hits as replenishing mana is harder for this character; +230 ES

#2 Carcass Jack: around 80-100c cheaper ( I can invest difference in cost into lvl 21 Blade Vortex); more evasion (evade chance goes from 20% to 33%); +20 life but no mana (still lets me get a bit better leech); gives all resistances which lets me buy a bit better jewel with 12% inc damage instead of all res (but I already calculated this into dps difference); +1 AoE when mapping; lets me use Vaal Pact since I will be using mana for casting

This probably seems like Carcass Jack should be a winner, especially due to price difference but what I am worried about are those 2nd and 3rd big hits when my mana is depleted and I am not helping it by casting 100 mana per cast BV few times per second.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 05 2017 13:05 GMT
#26108
On September 05 2017 08:49 Kickstart wrote:
Umm. Think you are a bit worked up over his harmless joke; friends rib each other all the time. At any rate - this is really off-topic (even in a thread that has pizza dough recipes).

Proper high quality pizza dough is highly relevant in a game that relies on efficiency.

Who wants inefficient pizza that tastes bad? Imagine all the chaos lost because you were busy being annoyed or delayed by your food!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10736 Posts
September 05 2017 13:08 GMT
#26109
Just nutribullet it and tell everyone its a proteinshake
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 05 2017 14:35 GMT
#26110
Culinary diversity was actually the real victim of the clearspeed meta.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 15:35:15
September 05 2017 15:33 GMT
#26111
On a more serious note.

My spinningshit Life-Cosprisdischarge Guy actually made it to lvl 88 running high yellow/low redmaps and is still a blast, it would be very kind if some of you could drop an eye on my skilltree.


https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAPEACRYBAHVFfJeX-_W0OOUZjDZVS2HiJpUWv4nTcFIqC13yKwoRL-tjtUhtbOywjAu5fDY9napsjGKstMXb50cG8uFjQ9DQj_rr9WSd8h3C7AW1jb_UI1FH51Qk_f_e3vikeMHVMHyNfSP2TZLo1iLqMgGyGc96Yet6U8M6KjgOSBGWf8aiow_EO3y4ysHzlSAtH0yzIG5QMNtebAjxigQHg9tVxjpYl5VSUz1fl_RtGQj0akO86iycES18g-vuMtFFR8BmPAXvfJ_fmjuCm-081aZXlClPa7eFfQSzogDwHyM2UxAXsEqLMjIQktmGvG8AAAAAAA==

Thinking about scrapping Doomcast/Acrobatics and everything after and instead going for double-curse (using Warlords + Herald of Frost atm) and EQ, something like this:
https://poeplanner.com/AAkAAPMACRYBAHZFfJeX-_W0OOUZjDZVS2HiJpUWv4nTcFIqC13yKwoRL-tjtUhtbOywjAu5fDY9napsjGKstMXb50cG8uFjQw5IEZZ_xqKjD8Q7fLjKwfOVIC0fTLMgblAw215sCPGKBAeD21XGOliXlVJTPV-X9G0ZCPRqQ7zqLJzAZjwF73yf35o7gpvtPNWmV5QpT2u3hX0Es6IA8B8PqySLwzoqOKyY99eboRhqOVJYB-w4OtgnL5BVGjgBkS3Sj0YdFI5k96a2-vrSFm_jaiSqNulmnhZApwjr7hzcuJMo-pitIzZTEBewSosyMhCS2Ya8bwAAAAAA
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 16:00:37
September 05 2017 15:50 GMT
#26112
What's the 2nd curse buying you?

I assume, considering you took an endurance charge, that you have a voll's devotion yes?

Most CoC discharge builds at this point start focusing super heavy on jewel sockets since they can get a lot of both life and crit multi that way, and those are the 2 most important stats remaining. Hell, a jewel can have something like 40% crit multi for discharge and 7% life on it. (since "cold", "fire", "lightning", "elemental", "spell" etc specific crit multis all work on discharge)

The only problem is that those jewels are not cheap. However, even just 7% life 18% multi is 1c so... its very worth getting a few

I don't know what your offhand is, but you should probably just use lycosidae and cut all the terrible accuracy nodes
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
September 05 2017 15:55 GMT
#26113
Both those have way too low life and if you scrap Acrobatics your low life will become an even bigger problem.
How do you generate charges with this character atm? If just using Assassing ascendancy that is probably not the best way. I doubt you ever get to max charges, I think you can scrap everything left of Witch tree and focus more on crit damage and survivabilty on this side.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
September 05 2017 16:03 GMT
#26114
On September 06 2017 00:55 -Archangel- wrote:
Both those have way too low life and if you scrap Acrobatics your low life will become an even bigger problem.
How do you generate charges with this character atm? If just using Assassing ascendancy that is probably not the best way. I doubt you ever get to max charges, I think you can scrap everything left of Witch tree and focus more on crit damage and survivabilty on this side.

Probably Voll's Protector
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2017 16:12 GMT
#26115
here velr: www.poeurl.com/bw6x

I get that the link i'm going to post requires level 96 BUT an intuitive leap jewel saves you 4 points over in templar (costs almost 30c though, so dunno) so it's achievable at 92 AND there are like 5 2-point jewel sockets involved so you can do it right now and then just slowly take jewel sockets as you level (I'm a big fan of allocating a 4% life node, then de-allocating it when I level to get a 2-point jewel socket, then next level allocating the same 4% life node etc. Costs 1 regret per 2 levels and makes it very smooth since you always go up in life and you also go up in damage nicely every other level).

you could link your character so that we could understand your gear choices better in order to help optimize the tree around that as well if you want.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 16:39:31
September 05 2017 16:27 GMT
#26116
I got 5l-volls protector, choir of the storm and inyas boots (chance for max charges).
Second Curse would probably be assassins mark or enfeeble/tempchains.

Getting rid of acrobatics scares me away from doing it, along wit the accuracy loss.
For Jewells i sadly lack the budget atm and a volls amu or 6l protector would be higher priority anyway?
Discharges Critmulti is allready over 400% and I actually didn't even do Uberlab yet, do i "need" more or when do dimishing returns really kick in?

The char has no real issues so far aside from the occasional oneshot (but i did some t11 whiteout volls protector in a 5 l carcass jack, these i can just faceroll now - not immediatly getting volls was the dumbest thing i ever did and t10 beachhead was doable with carcass).

Will probably try t15 beachhead tonight, depending on how that goes i come back crying .

Is there something truely wrong with my tree atm? Because i got plenty of respecpoints to fix minor issues. I just spitballed my build by myself during leveling so there have to be issues



Thx guys, will link my char later

Does this link work?
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/aDoreMe/characters
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2017 16:49 GMT
#26117
yeah your characters tab is private though, you have to go to privacy settings under "my account" (on the right sidebar) and untick "hide characters tab".

As I said, run lycosidae to fix accuracy. Also I really am not convinced that choir of the storm is optimal but up to you.

So if you don't have volls amu, then just cut the endurance charge/life part of templar and my linked tree is literally 109 points your exact level. Keep in mind you can get very cheap jewels and upgrade them later. http://poe.trade/search/haritanotoremd are jewels with 6% life 15% crit multi, for 1-3 chaos you can get those and maybe another semi-useful mod on top. The thing about crit multi is that there's never too much. Although admittedly, some flat spell damage is probably just as good at this point.

Your tree isn't disastrous or anything, My version is just what I'd consider a streamlined version that is going to be that little bit more efficient on life to keep the one-shots away
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 17:03:21
September 05 2017 16:52 GMT
#26118
Just did
On phone now and it won't load the tree, just the stats.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 17:14:43
September 05 2017 17:13 GMT
#26119
One interaction that some newer players aren't familiar with is the double penalty that accuracy has on crit chance. When you attack a mob, it rolls your accuracy vs it's evasion (duh). If that roll succeeds, it rolls your crit. If that roll succeeds it rolls your accuracy AGAIN to see if the crit actually hits. If that roll fails, you still hit but you don't crit, even though u succeeded the crit roll. What that means is 90% chance to hit is actually 81% chance to hit critically (times whatever your crit chance is of course). That's why lycosidae is so insane, because it automatically succeeds both accuracy rolls, it's generally something like 20% MORE chance to crit. Sometimes higher.

While it has lowish life and no resists, it opens up so much gear space elsewhere because you can totally ignore accuracy everywhere.

Also I appreciate the attempt to have a useful evasion rating, but it really isn't going to happen with your gear. I bet you have what, 5K evasion? That's cute, but it is just vastly unlikely to help you avoid 1shots since many of those either can't miss or are on bosses with MUCH higher accuracy ratings than what your "chance to evade" is calculating against in your defense tab. If you dedicated 2 flask slots (1 to jade, 1 to stibnite) then we could talk but It's still not really worth it. Fortunately acro ignores accuracy ratings so it's probably still worth keeping around.

PS you really don't need 3 life flasks. Most builds run 1-2. Especially considering you have vaal pact + warlords mark + life leech socketed, all you really need is to sustain any annoying degens and make sure you have enough life to get in on mobs. The rest of your sustain really shouldn't need flasks, so you should look at some useful utility flasks like the Wise Oak or maybe a Vessel of Vinktar (20c for the added to spells variety, which is much worse than the lightning penetration but also much cheaper and quite good enough). I'd also suggest that without frenzy charge generation, rotgut is worse than a well-rolled quicksilver but that's not a big deal.

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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10736 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 17:24:26
September 05 2017 17:22 GMT
#26120
Most of the gear, i'm not even resistcapped, is from before volls protector (carcass jack), so i need to reshuffle anyway.
I don't need 3 lifeglasks anymore because leech is so much better but i did not have the time to reshuffle stuff after trying volls .
I did the Evasion before actually knowing about volls protector, so yeah. Thats most likely a dead end.

I think i have a vinktars lying around .

Tons of thanks!

I got frenzies from bloodrage but, i know this, should just scrap the second cwd anyway for a shieldcharge setup.
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