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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
August 03 2017 04:29 GMT
#25241
do we know when beta ends?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 04:40:43
August 03 2017 04:35 GMT
#25242
Making a Frostblades 1h Shield Gladiator - Hc Harbinger(of course) league

What about you guys?

Also, the beta announcement forum was confusing regarding the threshold jewel vendor. My understanding is it wont be in launch correct?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 04:40:01
August 03 2017 04:39 GMT
#25243
On August 03 2017 13:29 EchelonTee wrote:
do we know when beta ends?

I'm guessing about 24 hours before launch based on the past but not sure.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
August 03 2017 04:46 GMT
#25244
On August 03 2017 13:35 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Making a Frostblades 1h Shield Gladiator - Hc Harbinger(of course) league

What about you guys?

Also, the beta announcement forum was confusing regarding the threshold jewel vendor. My understanding is it wont be in launch correct?
Correct, but every class can get every jewel as a quest reward, and I've seen speculation that you can get a 2nd jewel somewhere in Act 9 or 10.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 03 2017 05:06 GMT
#25245
Anyone need/want a starter build made for them? Or want someone to go over theirs?

I know my way around Path of Building quite well, and am bored. Lemme know.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 03 2017 05:08 GMT
#25246
On August 03 2017 13:46 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2017 13:35 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Making a Frostblades 1h Shield Gladiator - Hc Harbinger(of course) league

What about you guys?

Also, the beta announcement forum was confusing regarding the threshold jewel vendor. My understanding is it wont be in launch correct?
Correct, but every class can get every jewel as a quest reward, and I've seen speculation that you can get a 2nd jewel somewhere in Act 9 or 10.

Ahhh so thats what they were saying, perfect
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 05:12:49
August 03 2017 05:08 GMT
#25247
I found some good mine information here - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1823518

mainly I was looking for numbers on mine laying and arming
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 05:40:25
August 03 2017 05:21 GMT
#25248
I'd love to discuss possible starting builds besides my own and other new changes.

Examples:

-Dark Pact Life/Es Hybrid Self cast

-Caustic Arrow the damage out is greatly buffed and if you couple it with the attack damage at full life change you can scale it even more

-Spark with Added Lightning /Innervate and new pierce mechanics

-Doomfletch Prism builds (considered by many to be the new op build meta)

-New mine mechanics - IE Glacial Cascade Mine - apparently the aoe is huge

-The new Attack Damage at full life gem (changed from melee phys at full life)

-**** Deaths Oath change**** THe unique armor that used to do 450 flat chaos dmg to nearby enemies now grants a skill that uses sockets in the armor (like whispering ice did) really excited to try this but dont think its a good league starter(because its a specific build and hard to chrome). But with some basic building its pretty easy to scale the aura to 24k chaos dmg per second at least.

-The nerfs to SRS and Sunder and how strong they still are (imo pretty strong still but people are bored of them)

-Baron Zombie heavy builds using 2x threshold gems for huge slam damage
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 03 2017 05:28 GMT
#25249
Doomfletch is really really really strong but not a starter, the gear is quite expensive, tons of added phys, crit, accuracy.

Many of the new changes I don't really feel like I can truly judge well until POB updates fully.

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 03 2017 05:41 GMT
#25250
True , not a good starter just wanted to throw it in there. Its a prophecy only item so that limits the availability.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 03 2017 05:50 GMT
#25251
I'm especially curious about the interaction between the data mined Dark Pact with Decay Support. Dark Pact is supposed to give 155% more chaos dmg when self cast and that should apply to Decay support when linked with it.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
August 03 2017 05:54 GMT
#25252
I would wait until they finalize Dark Pact numbers before going in on it. At the moment the damage potential is insane but they may nerf it. I think Berserker Vaal Pact is by far the best choice for it. people shrug away the 6% cost to life, but this is a 0.5s cast time spell, with cast speed even faster. losing at least 12% of your life every second is not trivial. Berserker VP is the most reliable way to keep yourself alive IMO, and zerker spell casters are just good. Not sure why you would want to go hybrid. Id do Life MoM, or Life + dual blasphemy

Caustic Arrow looks like a pretty good starter. you need ED swap or 4L ED for single target though. Travis thought up a trickster build for it

Spark with nova gem could be quite good. It's not nearly as OP as vaal spark but you can get quite a bit of extra projectiles. Not a starter.

the new QoL to mines is huge IMO. from what I understand, if you place a mine, then hit detonate immediately, the mine will go off as soon as it is able. this means way less wasted time when clearing. GC mines is a good starter. frostbolt is another option; better clear, but less ways to scale the damage

death's oath doesnt seem good to me. the damage will never be close to RF levels. it just seems like a waste of time to mess with it.

Sunder was untouched. Best leveling skill woo
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 08:32:06
August 03 2017 06:17 GMT
#25253
Thats true Zerker would be a great option. I was thinking hyrbid Life/Es Occultist for the -20% chaos res. Then using the extra curse for blasphemys. The extra chaos res is super nice , but the life leech on zerker is awesome hmmm. I do think hybrid life/es has its merits. I'd use life pots for life if needed, but rely mainly on the ES buffer and zealots oath. Yea who knows how the final version of the skill will look but its like how its predicted to be im really looking forward to it as self cast. I think skels are too much upkeep and too much clunk but maybe a summon skels on channel hybrid minion build could be viable.

Yea the QoL of mines makes me want to play them so bad. I know your understanding is correct, but beyond that I don't shit about mine builds so I'm not gonna use it as a starter. I think for people who have experience they are super strong looking. Caustic Arrow mine? Mmmm.

Eh, raiz even in 2.6 with a weaker version of Caustic didnt use a single target switch. And that was before the damage buff and the change to "Attack Damage on Full life"(formerly melee dmg on full life) not to mention the other great ways to scale caustic in beta, decay etc. He actually used a abyssal cry and a wither totem. With blink arrow and his blasphemys. He was 98 SSF and wayyyy ahead until he ripped I don't think caustic will need a switch to be effective in 3.0. He was an Occultist though.

I disagree about Death's Oath though. Even Havoc was saying that it seems OP as fuck and he has a special eye for abusing OP builds. Mark my words we will see Havoc at the top of the ladder with a deaths oath build pretty soon But hey I could also be super wrong and you can quote me and tell me I'm an idiot haha.

Remember there's other ways to get projectiles through uniques etc and the 100% increased soul cost of vaal skills, as well as other vaal nerfs(mainly no more spell echo). Spark can certainly be as strong as Vaal Spark is NOW with the changes. You'd just use 1 threshold jewel. To keep a decent duration and that's a guaranteed quest reward. Don't see why you couldn't use it as a starter. It might struggle against bosses though as usual but you could get around it.


In general it seems like the real test is builds that can kill the new buffed life bosses well and still have good clear speed. Not that easy on high tiers.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
August 03 2017 06:43 GMT
#25254
yeah but boss life was buffed. you're right you don't need an ED swap but it would improve your single target, at the cost of making boss fights more clunky
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 03 2017 06:49 GMT
#25255
Well, I'm going for either trickster ed, necro srs or scion wander to start, on hc. Someone decide for me please
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
August 03 2017 06:50 GMT
#25256
Zerker is probably better for Dark pact with Vaal pact. Can just scale up cast speed and cast super fast without worrying. Could be insane damage. Cant wait to see that gem.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-03 07:24:34
August 03 2017 06:51 GMT
#25257
On August 03 2017 15:49 bo1b wrote:
Well, I'm going for either trickster ed, necro srs or scion wander to start, on hc. Someone decide for me please

Trickster ED is my vote of the 3. But why not Occultist ED? Necro SRS is double nerfed but still good based on my testing. Not nearly as impressive though as it used to be. I actually played one to 80 early beta. Wanders always good , but can be reflected.

Side note, remember you dont need links for your deaths oath skill. Just like whispering ice. Pretty easy to 7 "link" it. And I disagree that you cant scale it as high as RF with all the new supports. Well...what does a really nice RF build do per second as fire? Remember though that monsters usually have higher fire res than chaos res.

Update: Upon further research it looks like it would be quite hard to find relevant supports gems for Deaths Oath indeed. Specifically red ones.
Added Chaos, Void Manipulation, Concentrated Effect, Rapid Decay

Possibly generosity.

And?
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
August 03 2017 07:00 GMT
#25258
It's not an ailment so most of the new gems don't help it. I don't think there are 6 relevant gems that can support death's oath. if there are, then you may be correct

@bo1b despite the nerf necro srs might still be the smoothest leveler out of the three you mentioned. they're all fairly good though. I still think wander is a rough start especially as scion

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 03 2017 07:03 GMT
#25259
For reference I'd go scion because I have easy access to 50% reduced reflect damage, and can comfortably level as sunder/flameblast totems.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 03 2017 07:16 GMT
#25260
On August 03 2017 15:49 bo1b wrote:
Well, I'm going for either trickster ed, necro srs or scion wander to start, on hc. Someone decide for me please

Those are tough choices, all stronk. Depends a bit on what you wanna do I guess.

Go wander, you'd be the only one that I know about in guild so far for HHC. =D
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