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Really disappointed with no reflect changes. More scion/elementalist...
On August 03 2017 00:41 r.Evo wrote:
Random discovery I found while theorycrafting: Champion gets to similar damage levels as Berserker as long as you damage things with hits. The reason for this is that First to Strike, Last to Fall gives you permanant intimidation against Enemies on full life (hence will work on most bosses) and Worthy Foe makes enemies you taunt take 20% increased damage.
In practice, that's a 30% more multi on all your damage that gets applied after everything is said and done (compared to Berserker which acts as another 'more' multiplier in your skillgems). Add the 75% generic increased from the nodes combined if you ignore his fortify path et et voilà: You're at Berserker levels of damage without taking more yourself.
It's most likely not worth it for e.g. spellcasters (you lose leech) or melee classes (imo Slayer still beats this) but maybe someone finds this useful for something niche.
But you are already supposed to use intimidation belt and it's increased damage taken therefore things like shock don't work as well.
You can't also pick fortify if you pick those nodes.
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Hey folks, it's that time of the year where I leech your knowledge for a build.
So far, I'm thinking of Storm Burst CwC Berserker MoM. Might go Ball Lightning + Slower Projectiles, Shock Nova with AoE, or maybe Arc with Innervate.
Working on a build, so far I have around 200% increased life with enough mana for MoM, more than enough for SC. Berserker MoM VP seems totally broken anyway. Now, question time!
- Leveling skill? Sunder until CwC + 5L?
- How much PoB dps should I aim for? So far it seems to be at 100 to 150k dps with no gear other than Agnerod, but it's not that accurate anyway for a skill like storm burst + shock.
- Any useful unique for this setup that I might not be aware of?
- Movement skill? If I go Agnerod, I'm stuck with.. leap slam? Warp on a 4L? Shield Charge sounds so much better for Fortify + Arcane Surge.. :-/
- Flasks? Vinktar? Dying Sun? Doesn't seem to be anything that strong anymore here..
Thanks!
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I kind of like the idea of Storm Burst CWC Storm Call, should be similar type of explosions and I believe they are targeted at your cursor.
If you're doing HC then you probably need to level with a proper attack setup and respec to spells later. If you're doing SC then just rush straight to your spell damage nodes and use arc/storm call/storm burst ASAP.
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On August 03 2017 04:24 Pwere wrote:
Hey folks, it's that time of the year where I leech your knowledge for a build.
So far, I'm thinking of Storm Burst CwC Berserker MoM. Might go Ball Lightning + Slower Projectiles, Shock Nova with AoE, or maybe Arc with Innervate.
Working on a build, so far I have around 200% increased life with enough mana for MoM, more than enough for SC. Berserker MoM VP seems totally broken anyway. Now, question time!
- Leveling skill? Sunder until CwC + 5L?
- How much PoB dps should I aim for? So far it seems to be at 100 to 150k dps with no gear other than Agnerod, but it's not that accurate anyway for a skill like storm burst + shock.
- Any useful unique for this setup that I might not be aware of?
- Movement skill? If I go Agnerod, I'm stuck with.. leap slam? Warp on a 4L? Shield Charge sounds so much better for Fortify + Arcane Surge.. :-/
- Flasks? Vinktar? Dying Sun? Doesn't seem to be anything that strong anymore here..
Thanks!
You cannot link Arcane Surge with non spells.
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Sunder is godlike for leveling, use it if you don't mind speccing some points into melee dmg and respeccing those later.
DPS depends, if you are aiming to be a bosskiller you probably want more than that. For everything else that seems good enough.
Unique: See Flask
Movement skill: Preferably Leap Slam so you can use Fortify, but it might be too slow. Only other option would indeed be Lightning Warp or nothing. Like Archangel said you can't use attacks with Arcane Surge, people usually use it with Orb of Storm and low level Arcane Surge. You won't want to use it with Lightning Warp either, since Less Duration makes the duration of it very low.
You are missing the most important flask: The Wise Oak. Other than that probably Vinktar or Atziri's Promise.
Also I really like your idea, seems like a fun build.
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On August 03 2017 01:02 vndestiny wrote:Berserker dmg is comparable with other ascendancies roughly. What makes it broken is the vaal pact leech combo which ofc only caster can reap full benefits. Most attack builds I prefer to take other Ascendancies, which is super thematically funny to me 
Yeah I agree, the leech makes Berserker my go-to caster ascendancy. For attack builds I prefer various duelist/ranger/shadow. This patch I'm actually going Ascendant Assassin/Raider.
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On August 03 2017 04:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Sunder is godlike for leveling, use it if you don't mind speccing some points into melee dmg and respeccing those later.
DPS depends, if you are aiming to be a bosskiller you probably want more than that. For everything else that seems good enough.
Unique: See Flask
Movement skill: Preferably Leap Slam so you can use Fortify, but it might be too slow. Only other option would indeed be Lightning Warp or nothing. Like Archangel said you can't use attacks with Arcane Surge, people usually use it with Orb of Storm and low level Arcane Surge. You won't want to use it with Lightning Warp either, since Less Duration makes the duration of it very low.
You are missing the most important flask: The Wise Oak. Other than that probably Vinktar or Atziri's Promise.
Also I really like your idea, seems like a fun build.
Small addition, I've seen Waggle use Firestorm+Onslaught+Arcane surge together with a Totem, some people swear on Flame Dash - Arcane Surge (inc Duration) but I personally wasn't a huge fan.
No matter what you're doing, if you can somehow fit it in: Start Duelist and mule over that Onslaught gem. Pretty massive boost.
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On August 03 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 04:24 Pwere wrote:
Hey folks, it's that time of the year where I leech your knowledge for a build.
So far, I'm thinking of Storm Burst CwC Berserker MoM. Might go Ball Lightning + Slower Projectiles, Shock Nova with AoE, or maybe Arc with Innervate.
Working on a build, so far I have around 200% increased life with enough mana for MoM, more than enough for SC. Berserker MoM VP seems totally broken anyway. Now, question time!
- Leveling skill? Sunder until CwC + 5L?
- How much PoB dps should I aim for? So far it seems to be at 100 to 150k dps with no gear other than Agnerod, but it's not that accurate anyway for a skill like storm burst + shock.
- Any useful unique for this setup that I might not be aware of?
- Movement skill? If I go Agnerod, I'm stuck with.. leap slam? Warp on a 4L? Shield Charge sounds so much better for Fortify + Arcane Surge.. :-/
- Flasks? Vinktar? Dying Sun? Doesn't seem to be anything that strong anymore here..
Thanks! You cannot link Arcane Surge with non spells. Yeah, forgot they changed it. Could use it with golem or OoS at a lower level. That makes it easier, but still need a moveskill. Or get a Kaom for Guardians/Shaper and don't use a moveskill.
Also, does anyone know how Dying Sun and extra projectiles work with Storm Burst? It seems to go full Barrage, which sounds a bit broken.
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On August 03 2017 05:15 Pwere wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote:On August 03 2017 04:24 Pwere wrote:
Hey folks, it's that time of the year where I leech your knowledge for a build.
So far, I'm thinking of Storm Burst CwC Berserker MoM. Might go Ball Lightning + Slower Projectiles, Shock Nova with AoE, or maybe Arc with Innervate.
Working on a build, so far I have around 200% increased life with enough mana for MoM, more than enough for SC. Berserker MoM VP seems totally broken anyway. Now, question time!
- Leveling skill? Sunder until CwC + 5L?
- How much PoB dps should I aim for? So far it seems to be at 100 to 150k dps with no gear other than Agnerod, but it's not that accurate anyway for a skill like storm burst + shock.
- Any useful unique for this setup that I might not be aware of?
- Movement skill? If I go Agnerod, I'm stuck with.. leap slam? Warp on a 4L? Shield Charge sounds so much better for Fortify + Arcane Surge.. :-/
- Flasks? Vinktar? Dying Sun? Doesn't seem to be anything that strong anymore here..
Thanks! You cannot link Arcane Surge with non spells. Yeah, forgot they changed it. Could use it with golem or OoS at a lower level. That makes it easier, but still need a moveskill...
Charged dash? :D
Quicksilver flask?
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On August 03 2017 05:05 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 04:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Sunder is godlike for leveling, use it if you don't mind speccing some points into melee dmg and respeccing those later.
DPS depends, if you are aiming to be a bosskiller you probably want more than that. For everything else that seems good enough.
Unique: See Flask
Movement skill: Preferably Leap Slam so you can use Fortify, but it might be too slow. Only other option would indeed be Lightning Warp or nothing. Like Archangel said you can't use attacks with Arcane Surge, people usually use it with Orb of Storm and low level Arcane Surge. You won't want to use it with Lightning Warp either, since Less Duration makes the duration of it very low.
You are missing the most important flask: The Wise Oak. Other than that probably Vinktar or Atziri's Promise.
Also I really like your idea, seems like a fun build. Small addition, I've seen Waggle use Firestorm+Onslaught+Arcane surge together with a Totem, some people swear on Flame Dash - Arcane Surge (inc Duration) but I personally wasn't a huge fan. No matter what you're doing, if you can somehow fit it in: Start Duelist and mule over that Onslaught gem. Pretty massive boost.
For onslaught you need to kill enemies. Better to do OoS+Arcane Surge+Culling Strike+Onslaught
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On August 03 2017 05:19 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 05:05 r.Evo wrote:On August 03 2017 04:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Sunder is godlike for leveling, use it if you don't mind speccing some points into melee dmg and respeccing those later.
DPS depends, if you are aiming to be a bosskiller you probably want more than that. For everything else that seems good enough.
Unique: See Flask
Movement skill: Preferably Leap Slam so you can use Fortify, but it might be too slow. Only other option would indeed be Lightning Warp or nothing. Like Archangel said you can't use attacks with Arcane Surge, people usually use it with Orb of Storm and low level Arcane Surge. You won't want to use it with Lightning Warp either, since Less Duration makes the duration of it very low.
You are missing the most important flask: The Wise Oak. Other than that probably Vinktar or Atziri's Promise.
Also I really like your idea, seems like a fun build. Small addition, I've seen Waggle use Firestorm+Onslaught+Arcane surge together with a Totem, some people swear on Flame Dash - Arcane Surge (inc Duration) but I personally wasn't a huge fan. No matter what you're doing, if you can somehow fit it in: Start Duelist and mule over that Onslaught gem. Pretty massive boost. For onslaught you need to kill enemies. Better to do OoS+Arcane Surge+Culling Strike+Onslaught
If you can spare such a 4L on day 1 then by all means go for it. For going fast linking it to some kind of main skill is the way to go.
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anyone know the exact arming time for mines? I can't find an actual source
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Apparently RF scorching ray with MoM is a thing? Any idea how good that would be for a league starter? It looks kind of fun.
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On August 03 2017 06:04 hunts wrote:
Apparently RF scorching ray with MoM is a thing? Any idea how good that would be for a league starter? It looks kind of fun.
It's going to be insanely strong, and a great league starter. It went from having 3 good supports (plus Empower if you're rich) to having 5 good supports (plus Empower if you're rich), and sustaining RF is a cakewalk now. More than makes up for the individual skill nerfs.
Non-crit Inquisitor, Trickster, and Berserker are the top ascendancies for it. Level with whatever random fire skills you like (Firestorm, pizza sticks, etc.), then swap to SR once you get a 4L or so. RF is optional; just don't bother activating it until you get your RotP and enough regen to sustain it.
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I'm going the cookie cutter Berserker Sunder with 230% life from tree. Path of building says I should be able to get around 8k life. Hopping on the sunder bandwagon.
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I put some links in the OP, in case people need emergency build or want quick reference to GGG news. haven't had as much time to research builds so not as many as I'd like
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On August 03 2017 06:04 hunts wrote:
Apparently RF scorching ray with MoM is a thing? Any idea how good that would be for a league starter? It looks kind of fun.
I'd really like to see some discussion on this build because I'd like to try it as a league starter but I've never played RF and I have no idea how you could sustain enough mana and health regen for MoM.
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On August 03 2017 00:30 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 00:03 sob3k wrote:
I'm going berserker MOM Freezing Pulse, by my calcs it should be extremely tanky with fast clear. Should be able to hit 8.7k ehp on total budget gear with ~350k dps on shaper, scaling to 10.4k ehp and nearly 900k on decent midtier gear. Do you have a PoB link? I want to see how you achieved so much vs shaper.
I kind of don't want to post my actual starter anywhere just to reduce any competition on the uniques early on, slightly paranoid yes, but one other person with a livesearch halves my chances of getting an item.
Its not that special anyway but is very solid, I'll post it and some variants after the first week. I mean its basically just a nicely optimized insert-any-spell berserker, and I just actually think FP is a very good spell for map clearing, and should be able to boss too with berserker's stupid facetanking.
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On August 03 2017 06:27 pahndah wrote:
I'm going the cookie cutter Berserker Sunder with 230% life from tree. Path of building says I should be able to get around 8k life. Hopping on the sunder bandwagon.
Do Slayer for Sunder. Berserker gives you leech that you don't need, a heal that Slayer doesn't need and... that's it.
Overleech is strong as hell and so is the 20% cull.
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On August 03 2017 07:31 sob3k wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2017 00:30 -Archangel- wrote:On August 03 2017 00:03 sob3k wrote:
I'm going berserker MOM Freezing Pulse, by my calcs it should be extremely tanky with fast clear. Should be able to hit 8.7k ehp on total budget gear with ~350k dps on shaper, scaling to 10.4k ehp and nearly 900k on decent midtier gear. Do you have a PoB link? I want to see how you achieved so much vs shaper. I kind of don't want to post my actual starter anywhere just to reduce any competition on the uniques early on, slightly paranoid yes, but one other person with a livesearch halves my chances of getting an item. Its not that special anyway but is very solid, I'll post it and some variants after the first week. I mean its basically just a nicely optimized insert-any-spell berserker, and I just actually think FP is a very good spell for map clearing, and should be able to boss too with berserker's stupid facetanking.
I just went to level my gems in PoB to 20/20 and vortex to 21/20 and now I also got almost 300k vs Shaper. I guess difference between your build and mine is the better base damage of FP. And you might have a better item selection that you keep a secret
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