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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 08:38:28
August 02 2017 08:37 GMT
#25161
HF espe

cleave isn't TOO bad with the new threshold jewel. it's AoE is still a bit lacking tho

most ele builds just go wrath + 1 herald, as the lightning damage for attack nodes on tree are good / are in convenient location for classes like raider
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 02 2017 08:38 GMT
#25162
On August 02 2017 17:26 bo1b wrote:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Taming

This item was what made emberwake good. They could have changed emberwake to make it so ignites do 0 damage, and it still would have been better then what it is now so long as you can stack up more.

Yes it was but now it is a new age were you no longer combine those two uniques and find new broken builds

You are looking or broken combinations, I am just looking for Ignite builds that will be good enough.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 08:43:53
August 02 2017 08:41 GMT
#25163
I don't see what you're saying at all Archangel. this is how the item sounds atm:

Example - 100k dps ignite normally. Equip emberwake, +1 ignite, but 65% slower burn.

Therefore, your ignite dps is 35k..? add +1 ignite, 70k total ignite dps. ...isn't this just worse?

I guess I don't understand what "slower burn" means. has this shown up on previous items?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 08:45:20
August 02 2017 08:44 GMT
#25164
On August 02 2017 17:41 EchelonTee wrote:
I don't see what you're saying at all Archangel. this is how the item sounds atm:

Example - 100k dps ignite normally. Equip emberwake, +1 ignite, but 65% slower burn.

Therefore, your ignite dps is 35k. add +1 ignite, 70k total ignite dps. ...isn't this just worse?

I guess I don't understand what "slower burn" means. has this shown up on previous items?

It means total damage is still same, but it takes longer to happen. So you apply your 3 burns and they will eventually do the full damage.
Works well in battles where you need to dodge enemy damage as well.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
August 02 2017 08:48 GMT
#25165
if that's true then it's actually pretty good
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
August 02 2017 08:51 GMT
#25166
Not really, unless the new nodes somehow make ignite good again, its really really bad right now.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 02 2017 08:57 GMT
#25167
It's pointless as outside of committing your entire tree to fire conversion ignite scaling, ignites are just crap atm. The good news is that emberwake will be sold for 1alt each so you'll be able to see first hand the power.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 09:01:29
August 02 2017 09:00 GMT
#25168
On August 02 2017 17:57 bo1b wrote:
It's pointless as outside of committing your entire tree to fire conversion ignite scaling, ignites are just crap atm. The good news is that emberwake will be sold for 1alt each so you'll be able to see first hand the power.

Well there is that new unique boots and trickster. You stack PCs to get crit chance and trickster and new boots scale both base damage and ignite damage
As I said, PoB will tell us the truth :D
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 02 2017 09:01 GMT
#25169
Only thing aside from Cycloner I'm currently considering is Arc miner, but it's probably quite squishy unless going non crit (or CI, but meh, maybe as Occultist but I'd want Saboteur), and I don't think the damage will be good then.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 09:05:35
August 02 2017 09:03 GMT
#25170
With new Ice Bite, some frenzy focused character going all out on cold damage could be cool. Probably able to chill bosses as well if done good enough.

e: also the buffs to non crit part of inquisitor make him even better now with CI+ Beast Fur and zealot's oath builds.
Only problem is find an elemental non crit skill with good enough damage now that ignite has been killed. Could work with Vortex as well I guess or some Blade Vortex full conversion.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 02 2017 10:08 GMT
#25171
Scorching ray cast when channel whispering ice is what you're after for an regen based inquisitor non crit build btw.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
August 02 2017 10:09 GMT
#25172
scorching ray is the obvious option for non crit inquisitor
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
August 02 2017 10:18 GMT
#25173
Scorching ray is cancer :D
Any skill that forces you to stand still for so long is not that much fun to play. And in addition AoE is terrible. Maybe with CWC but still...

Breach is lvl 8 zana mod. Good thing they said it is also 10% chance per map for it to spawn.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 10:25:58
August 02 2017 10:25 GMT
#25174
Yeah, I'll prefer Beyond which is zana lvl 4, or most of the times nothing at all. But 2 Breaches for 6c is most probably worth it considering many people want Breach uniques and they'll be more rare now.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 11:18:43
August 02 2017 11:09 GMT
#25175
Why's steyox banned again?

e:found it https://pastebin.com/DudNqhsa
as useful as teasalt
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 02 2017 12:01 GMT
#25176
Oops, the Patch Notes are on https://www.reddit.com/r/all/

Not the first time this happens to a poe thread... I fear for the servers on Friday.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 12:18:06
August 02 2017 12:17 GMT
#25177
swift killer nerf? it doesn't say anything about adding a frenzy charge now.

edit: oh wait nm, i get it. no nerf
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10842 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 13:21:17
August 02 2017 12:19 GMT
#25178
Played my Bladefalltrapper some more, at lvl 63 i did my first 2 maps (Crystal and Factory) whiteout any issues (and gear that doesn't fit the spec and a less than ideal tree). I had a blast, aside from Izaro (cruel) that i just couldn't kill, but his mods felt like specifically designed against me. I can't really focus my dmg so I couldn't get rid of all the auras in P1 - Izaro decided to run into the traps that were supposed to kill the Auras and died, so i wa stuck with vuln/eleweakness + ligthninggolems in P3 while not even being close to Maxres even whiteout the curses ... So it should be more than fine with some other mods.
With 4 Ascendancy Points Trapper/Saboteur obviously gets a huge boost (chain reaction, 40% cd reduction) and i allready had a blast with the shitty version .

I most likely will play it as a leaguestarter.

Some questions:
I used a 5l-Bladefall Totem as secondary skill/cleanup. But this obviously falls off in Maps because most my dmg Comes from +Trapdamage and not from "+Phys". Any idea what else to use here? Beartrap?
Beartrap: If i throw clustertrap Beartraps and chain reactions makes them all go off... What do they DMG exactly? What is their DMG radius?
Are there other neat skills that work as a Phystrapper? EK with the Novagem probably? Rain of Arrows (or how its called)...


This would be my planned Tree:

Life-Mom-Evasion-Phys-Trapper.

https://poeplanner.com/AAgAAMsACDYBAGKw2KLZyBT1b2qMFr91_YRv1EK1SOtjES8rCl3yDkjuFbd1Nj2dqmyMYqy0xdvncFF2b36w2FRHBtDQj_rsGGSqm4ZqNsLsBbXo1iLqMgGyGc96Yet6U42_1CNRRzB8jX0j9k2SfytW-pANG-DnOjN4wcV_xqKjwfMI1PD5igaVIG0Zl_SXlUyzrrMFQiycES18g-vuhTKXLUlPvKqa4EWdU1JBltD1UlM9X3fX459noId2Sn286mpDCPQEB4PbVcY6WC0fAAAAAAA=
Any clear mistakes? Additional Points would go towards Jewels/Charges or Templar Life/AE or Critnodes or more Trigger Radius... As needed .

Bonusquestion - Aura: Hatred or some Curse or Herald or Nothing-Because MoM will use my Manapool?

edit: poeplanner instead of other skilltree linked.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-02 13:41:21
August 02 2017 12:33 GMT
#25179
I would love to help you but download and install Path of Building, it is pointless to use something that does not support 3.0 passive tree. But I can already see many mistakes up there Like taking MoM but no additional mana nodes)

As for secondary skill EK with new jewel is awesome as secondary phy trap, probably better as primary phy trap (especially with new pierce changes where you don't even need lot of pierce now).

Also what are your planned supports? Bladefall poison was killed so going crit elemental is only real choice left.
You will need hatred aura, put it in essence worm. Also if you want to use new unique armor you can put some points into frenzy charges as well.

Edit: import this into PoB: https://pastebin.com/AE4uEnnf
It is not super optimized but better than what you have. Only required unique is essence worm.

edit2: new PoB link. Has both EK and BF version. With EK use Projectile weakness instead of Elem Weakness. You get
63k x 4 traps going off at same time. And that is without full equipment, jewels, potions and stuff.

Edit3: EK focused PoB link: https://pastebin.com/q83EjfDr
Removed AoE and added projectile damage and speed. For this version you will want some more projectile speed on some of your items or jewels. Also has more DPS. But overall DPS will go down once PoB gets updated to release 3.0 as they removed 4% more spell damage per PC, so total damage will go down by 20% but the build will get back 50% inc crit chance from removal of that nerf of PC crit chance bonus.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10842 Posts
August 02 2017 13:34 GMT
#25180
Thanks but I can't install this at work

I have no clue about gear, atm I just linked my BF with:
Bladefall - Trap - Clustertrap - Trap+Mine Damage - Concentrated Effect - (Controlled Destruction).

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