EPTIf the purpose is to have as many shaped shore and strand possible, then can we unlock everything from t14 and up ? Or how it works is that if t14 is empty a +1 in shaped shore will default back to a t13 (which is shaped shore) ?
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vndestiny
Singapore3473 Posts
If the purpose is to have as many shaped shore and strand possible, then can we unlock everything from t14 and up ? Or how it works is that if t14 is empty a +1 in shaped shore will default back to a t13 (which is shaped shore) ? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5262 Posts
interesting degen zerker using new Al Dhinh claw. no gameplay footage in that vid but if you watch his stream vods it looks prty fun @vndestiny the problem with unlocking all T14s and up is that you will get crappy T14 you dont want to run that drop maps that you dont want to run. If you goal is to farm guardian and shaper then yea you'll want to unlock more. if you want to just farm then having T10-T15 being shaped map or nothing is better. also if you choose to unlock more maps, I would selectively choose maps that are fun / good cards / good drops (opal ring, steel ring, etc). for example in legacy SC I unlocked stuff like scriptorum (shav card), beacon (fun layout), Maze (good drops) | ||
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incinerate_
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On July 12 2017 08:14 vndestiny wrote: I have a question regarding a shaped strand atlas setup. If the purpose is to have as many shaped shore and strand possible, then can we unlock everything from t14 and up ? Or how it works is that if t14 is empty a +1 in shaped shore will default back to a t13 (which is shaped shore) ? The latter is correct. If there's no t14s then an intended t14 drop will drop as a t13. What you can do is unlock tier 15 and 16. If you're only running shaped strands and shores then these can only drop from the boss in shore. This should skew your drops to getting slightly more shaped shores. Actually getting a +2 from any boss is in my experience extremely rare. Also what Echelon Tee said. Personally, I'd go mad if I only chained strands and shores. I need some variation but nobody in their right mind wants to run stuff like excavation or necropolis. Edit: New Skill Reveal http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1921565 | ||
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EchelonTee
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On July 12 2017 11:12 EchelonTee wrote: wow that skill looks sick. reminds me of blade flurry but better damage projection. depending on numbers could be amazing When was the last time we got a new skill that wasn't god tier? | ||
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LagLovah
Canada552 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On July 12 2017 11:42 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: When was the last time we got a new skill that wasn't god tier? Blight was/is pretty bad. Scorching Ray/Frost Bolt/Lacerate/Vortex were okay on release, Blade Flurry/Warchief Totems OPOP. All in all I'd say we had more non-god tier new skills than we had god tier skills over the last year or so. On July 12 2017 12:09 LagLovah wrote: Getting prepped for the 2 week I just spent 45 minutes trying to find a MTX in a stash tab ... sigh. The new system cant come soon enough. ...I just gave up sorting MTX until the new system is out. Kinda hope they catch things that are in random 'void' spots like pets in hideouts that weren't merged at the end of a league, I'm pretty sure I lost a few wetas that way. As for the two week I might be game, some form of CI build could be fun, maybe even good old FB totems. You gonna do SSF or regular? edit: List of levels that would get you a Demi in the current Mayhem with one day remaining for a few classes. If distribution stays roughly similar there are some reasonable spots one could snipe, even when you're a bit more casual. Overall HC seems less contested than SSF, probably depends upon where streamers are drawn to. + Show Spoiler + Current Demi Holder (With exactly a day left): Ascendant: SSF 96, HC 99 (Dead) Assassin: SSF 98, HC 97 Berserker:SSF 96, HC 97 Champion: SSF 97 (Dead), HC 96 (Dead) Chieftain: SSF 96, HC 97 Deadeye: SSF 100, HC 97 Elementalist: SSF 2 X 100, HC 96 (Dead) Gladiator: SSF 99 , HC 95 (Dead) Guardian:SSF 97, HC 100 Hierophant: SSF 100, HC 95 Inquisitor: SSF 100, HC 100 Juggernaut: SSF 98, HC 97 Necromancer: SSF 100, HC 2 X 100 Occultist: SSF 100, HC 100 Pathfinder: SSF 98, HC 97 Raider: SSF 98, HC 98 (Dead) Saboteur: SSF 97, HC 96 (Dead) Slayer: SSF 99, HC 95 Trickster: SSF 99, HC 96 | ||
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Faeny
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For boss killing though I bet facetanking will be the norm - since the farther you are away, the longer you have to hold the button before the balls are in place to explode. This skill is definitely what frostbolt/vortex (or ice nova) could've been though. Still think the game will overall be slower after the patch; lots of strong things being dialed back while bosses are getting more health. Also, one downside of the new MTX system - can't use MTX to secure your valuable gear anymore. The only reason I bought MTX in the first place was to attach to gear I didn't want to accidentally drop/delete/sell/trade. Especially back in the day of snapshotting where you were swapping out gear every time you zoned. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5262 Posts
The problem is if you play too casually, a streamer will snipe your demi using VFB or EK Nova. you can do those builds as literally any ascendency with enough gear. I'm playing SSF for sure. Not sure if I will go hard or not. I think I have a slight ability to contest demi but most likely will die / not have enough time. I really wish they would give more demis out, would be way more motivated to try. I can't commit 12h+/day for a week. @Faeny there's no way the game will be slower as long as pathfinder and shield charge remain the same. You just have to use different skills. Sometimes not even (EK Nova). The top top clear builds (VFB, VSpark) are weakened, but there a lot of OP speed builds alive. as a side note, I've been carefully testing zone layouts in the new beta acts and for the most part they are very predictable. Nothing like A2 Vaal Ruins or A3 Sewers. Most areas are like A2 Western Forest or A3 Battlefront, where exits are in preset locations that you can head towards. | ||
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LagLovah
Canada552 Posts
On July 12 2017 12:45 r.Evo wrote: Blight was/is pretty bad. Scorching Ray/Frost Bolt/Lacerate/Vortex were okay on release, Blade Flurry/Warchief Totems OPOP. All in all I'd say we had more non-god tier new skills than we had god tier skills over the last year or so. ...I just gave up sorting MTX until the new system is out. Kinda hope they catch things that are in random 'void' spots like pets in hideouts that weren't merged at the end of a league, I'm pretty sure I lost a few wetas that way. As for the two week I might be game, some form of CI build could be fun, maybe even good old FB totems. You gonna do SSF or regular? edit: List of levels that would get you a Demi in the current Mayhem with one day remaining for a few classes. If distribution stays roughly similar there are some reasonable spots one could snipe, even when you're a bit more casual. Overall HC seems less contested than SSF, probably depends upon where streamers are drawn to. + Show Spoiler + Current Demi Holder (With exactly a day left): Ascendant: SSF 96, HC 99 (Dead) Assassin: SSF 98, HC 97 Berserker:SSF 96, HC 97 Champion: SSF 97 (Dead), HC 96 (Dead) Chieftain: SSF 96, HC 97 Deadeye: SSF 100, HC 97 Elementalist: SSF 2 X 100, HC 96 (Dead) Gladiator: SSF 99 , HC 95 (Dead) Guardian:SSF 97, HC 100 Hierophant: SSF 100, HC 95 Inquisitor: SSF 100, HC 100 Juggernaut: SSF 98, HC 97 Necromancer: SSF 100, HC 2 X 100 Occultist: SSF 100, HC 100 Pathfinder: SSF 98, HC 97 Raider: SSF 98, HC 98 (Dead) Saboteur: SSF 97, HC 96 (Dead) Slayer: SSF 99, HC 95 Trickster: SSF 99, HC 96 The build that I want to do... well, I don't think its possible in SSF, too much gear required that is super cheap but unlikely to find. Probably regular HC or ill suck it up and try out SSF and get really upset during the race heh. | ||
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EchelonTee
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Alur
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HolydaKing
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On July 12 2017 15:36 Alur wrote: Think I'll try to snatch the jugg demi on regular HC, I feel like that ascendancy won't be too competitive. Depends, are the streamers all going to play SSF HC again? Then playing regular HC will be less competitive. Pathfinders also didn't do extremely well last 2 week league. | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3473 Posts
On July 12 2017 12:45 r.Evo wrote: edit: List of levels that would get you a Demi in the current Mayhem with one day remaining for a few classes. If distribution stays roughly similar there are some reasonable spots one could snipe, even when you're a bit more casual. Overall HC seems less contested than SSF, probably depends upon where streamers are drawn to. + Show Spoiler + Current Demi Holder (With exactly a day left): Ascendant: SSF 96, HC 99 (Dead) Assassin: SSF 98, HC 97 Berserker:SSF 96, HC 97 Champion: SSF 97 (Dead), HC 96 (Dead) Chieftain: SSF 96, HC 97 Deadeye: SSF 100, HC 97 Elementalist: SSF 2 X 100, HC 96 (Dead) Gladiator: SSF 99 , HC 95 (Dead) Guardian:SSF 97, HC 100 Hierophant: SSF 100, HC 95 Inquisitor: SSF 100, HC 100 Juggernaut: SSF 98, HC 97 Necromancer: SSF 100, HC 2 X 100 Occultist: SSF 100, HC 100 Pathfinder: SSF 98, HC 97 Raider: SSF 98, HC 98 (Dead) Saboteur: SSF 97, HC 96 (Dead) Slayer: SSF 99, HC 95 Trickster: SSF 99, HC 96 Slayer 95 ? That seems, quite reasonable. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
95: Slayer, Hierophant, Gladiator 96: Champion, Elementalist (!?), Saboteur, Trickster 97: Assassin, Berserker, Chieftain, Deadeye, Jugg, Pathfinder The safest bet, assuming streamers stick mostly to SSF, could be to assume a similar distribution or to assume the opposite distribution since the grinders are tired of their current class. =P I wanna do something CI so I'm not entirely sure yet. FB Totem Elementalist is the obvious option, any recommendations for strong & cheap Trickster/Assassin builds? | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 12 2017 08:28 EchelonTee wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bw7VSInBgI interesting degen zerker using new Al Dhinh claw. no gameplay footage in that vid but if you watch his stream vods it looks prty fun @vndestiny the problem with unlocking all T14s and up is that you will get crappy T14 you dont want to run that drop maps that you dont want to run. If you goal is to farm guardian and shaper then yea you'll want to unlock more. if you want to just farm then having T10-T15 being shaped map or nothing is better. also if you choose to unlock more maps, I would selectively choose maps that are fun / good cards / good drops (opal ring, steel ring, etc). for example in legacy SC I unlocked stuff like scriptorum (shav card), beacon (fun layout), Maze (good drops) I watched him play this live. It sucks vs map bosses. | ||
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Rhodry
Germany104 Posts
I wont be able to get up a demi anyways, so the class representation doesnt matter for my build choice. I dont know yet which build i will play though. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5262 Posts
trickster - essence drain, BV into EK nova. most any CI build can work (ghost dance + frenzy charges). | ||
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ASoo
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On July 12 2017 22:34 -Archangel- wrote: I watched him play this live. It sucks vs map bosses. Can you use an ED weapon swap for bosses, like Caustic Arrow does? If you're mostly scaling chaos damage, seems like it might work. | ||
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