• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:05
CEST 17:05
KST 00:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6218 users

Path of Exile - Page 1196

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1194 1195 1196 1197 1198 1758 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 02 2017 00:20 GMT
#23901
www.poeurl.com/5aP

Something like this for kinetic blast miner, run fast be tanky etc.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
March 02 2017 00:24 GMT
#23902
Didnt the 100 Saboteur guy run with a Necro support and that's where most of his dmg actually came from ?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 00:40:14
March 02 2017 00:39 GMT
#23903
If you were running pure kb mines for bosses you'd need a support for sure, but I'm not.

Also if you check out his tree it's an absolute mess, juxtapose that with the changes to the shadow area and you get like 100% increased damage and more survivability.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 02 2017 02:13 GMT
#23904
Recently added or changed Patch Notes
Skill Balance Changes
Shock Nova damage has been increased by 33% at level 1, scaling up to 49% increased damage by level 20. The additional damage dealt by the Shock Nova ring has been reduced from 50% of base damage down to 20% of base damage.
Ice Nova damage has been increased by 3% at level 1, scaling up to 24% increased damage by level 20.
Ice Shot now has 60% Physical to Cold conversion (previously 40%)
Frost Blades now has 60% Physical to Cold conversion (previously 40%)

Bug Fixes
Maraketh Two Handed Axes now have 50% increased local Critical Chance, up from 25%/25%/40% on Talon Axe, Dagger Axe and Fleshripper

Area of Effect Balance Changes
Skills which used to gain increased area of effect radius as they levelled no longer do. Instead, the following skills gain additional base radius at certain intervals:
Vaal Reave gains 1 additional unit of radius every 5 levels.

Other Unique Item Changes:
The following changes cannot be obtained by rerolling the item's mods with a Divine Orb:
Lochtonial Caress: No longer has flat added armour. Now has 20-30 to Maximum Life. Now has the property 10% chance to gain a frenzy, power or endurance charge on kill. (Note: we previously incorrectly stated it no longer had reduced mana)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 02 2017 02:51 GMT
#23905
Excellent, call ice novas damage was buffed
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
March 02 2017 03:39 GMT
#23906
My impression from reading the notes was that Fatal Blade was going to get better and I think that was their intent, but dramatically reducing the crit multi in the cluster is quite the strange attempt at a buff.
~
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 04:51:09
March 02 2017 04:37 GMT
#23907
On March 02 2017 09:20 bo1b wrote:
www.poeurl.com/5aP

Something like this for kinetic blast miner, run fast be tanky etc.

How you've typically leveled pre-CI? Not many inc%life nodes around and makes life version->transition pretty annoying.
http://poeurl.com/5p4

How you value elder power? At glance it's first thing to drop to get Alchemist.
as useful as teasalt
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 05:05:57
March 02 2017 05:04 GMT
#23908
Those nodes are the ones you get when a wand has decent stats on it, or you get something bonkers like an iron ring with + phys damage and 70 res.

I level pretty close to dying, so ill have 1.5k when i down cruel malachai. Since you can get league stones, I think im going to be swimming in essences of greed and I might even have 1.8k at end of cruel ~lvl 56 or so.

My game plan is get to merc dried lake in 6-7 hours and farm up enough gear for approximately 5-6k es with ci up (no discipline) and start tackling maps at that point. I don't think it'll be all that impossible.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 05:25:26
March 02 2017 05:24 GMT
#23909
I was more thoughtful of t1-8 mapping because you can easily get randomly bursted for 6k and or stunned by something random. Lvling to maps is the easy part for me at least. You play hc right, btw?
KB, mine, gmp, added cold, minefield > WED is what I've seen people talk about, do you also subscribe to this?
as useful as teasalt
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 02 2017 05:34 GMT
#23910
I guess I am gonna do ngamahu's flame cyclone for my 2.6 build. Now I'm not really sure if it's better to go raider for the move speed and frenzy charges or berserker for the 100% leech and 40% more damage. Or maybe there's another better ascendency for it?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 05:42:14
March 02 2017 05:41 GMT
#23911
Minefield is super important, more than added cold. If you run wrath and herald of lightning you do enough damage to kill everything thats not a boss instantly anyway.

If you're concered about running to maps asap then maybe something like this?:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAMeBAcFtQceCNQI9A5IDo4PxBEvEZYTgxPfGdce8B9BIG4i6iL0I18mlSoLKlsrCjBbMgEyGDpYO3w9X0IsQzZFfEW5RwZJUUmxTLNQMFJTUuxTMVRiVUtVxl3yYeJh62JPYqxjQ2pDbAhsC2yMbRltbHBRcFJ2b3n2elN-sH_Gg9uEd4nTigaMC4w2kyeVLpeVl5eX9JuanaqgQ6B5oS-io60zshmzA7QMtDi0xbVIt3W4yrkGuXy86r6KwFTBxcHzwuzJBsrTz3rQH9fP2FTb5-UZ53To1utj7LDuFe-I7-vw1fD58Yry4fk3-_X9Sg==

There aren't really any good ways of pathing for mines with life tbh, so it's a little awkward no matter what.

Also as far as links go, wed > slower proj > added cold
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 05:49:23
March 02 2017 05:46 GMT
#23912
On March 02 2017 14:41 bo1b wrote:
Minefield is super important, more than added cold. If you run wrath and herald of lightning you do enough damage to kill everything thats not a boss instantly anyway.

If you're concered about running to maps asap then maybe something like this?:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAMeBAcFtQceCNQI9A5IDo4PxBEvEZYTgxPfGdce8B9BIG4i6iL0I18mlSoLKlsrCjBbMgEyGDpYO3w9X0IsQzZFfEW5RwZJUUmxTLNQMFJTUuxTMVRiVUtVxl3yYeJh62JPYqxjQ2pDbAhsC2yMbRltbHBRcFJ2b3n2elN-sH_Gg9uEd4nTigaMC4w2kyeVLpeVl5eX9JuanaqgQ6B5oS-io60zshmzA7QMtDi0xbVIt3W4yrkGuXy86r6KwFTBxcHzwuzJBsrTz3rQH9fP2FTb5-UZ53To1utj7LDuFe-I7-vw1fD58Yry4fk3-_X9Sg==

There aren't really any good ways of pathing for mines with life tbh, so it's a little awkward no matter what.

Also as far as links go, wed > slower proj > added cold

Yeah that's the problem (144%+3jew inc life only with weak defenses,) 1 lag spike or weird thing going on and it's a rip.
You don't run GMP or what are you dropping in favor of slower p.roj?
as useful as teasalt
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5261 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 06:21:05
March 02 2017 06:20 GMT
#23913
if we stay alive we could map in a group Day 2, should help with the safety. I'm going to have dual curse blasphemy at least

speaking of which, who's playing on HC?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 06:33:04
March 02 2017 06:32 GMT
#23914
On March 02 2017 14:46 Ryndika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 14:41 bo1b wrote:
Minefield is super important, more than added cold. If you run wrath and herald of lightning you do enough damage to kill everything thats not a boss instantly anyway.

If you're concered about running to maps asap then maybe something like this?:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAMeBAcFtQceCNQI9A5IDo4PxBEvEZYTgxPfGdce8B9BIG4i6iL0I18mlSoLKlsrCjBbMgEyGDpYO3w9X0IsQzZFfEW5RwZJUUmxTLNQMFJTUuxTMVRiVUtVxl3yYeJh62JPYqxjQ2pDbAhsC2yMbRltbHBRcFJ2b3n2elN-sH_Gg9uEd4nTigaMC4w2kyeVLpeVl5eX9JuanaqgQ6B5oS-io60zshmzA7QMtDi0xbVIt3W4yrkGuXy86r6KwFTBxcHzwuzJBsrTz3rQH9fP2FTb5-UZ53To1utj7LDuFe-I7-vw1fD58Yry4fk3-_X9Sg==

There aren't really any good ways of pathing for mines with life tbh, so it's a little awkward no matter what.

Also as far as links go, wed > slower proj > added cold

Yeah that's the problem (144%+3jew inc life only with weak defenses,) 1 lag spike or weird thing going on and it's a rip.
You don't run GMP or what are you dropping in favor of slower p.roj?

You can't do kb mines without a 4 link, the links you must have imo before "luxury" ones like wed/slower proj/added cold etc are: kb minefield gmp and remote mines.

I can't see a feasible way of safely transitioning to maps without some form of lake farm into ci

Just remember though, A 5 link is probably enough to destroy everything, and a 4 link fire nova mines will melt bosses.

I'm undecided echelon, but even then I'm halfway around the world so...
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
March 02 2017 06:53 GMT
#23915
On March 02 2017 15:32 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2017 14:46 Ryndika wrote:
On March 02 2017 14:41 bo1b wrote:
Minefield is super important, more than added cold. If you run wrath and herald of lightning you do enough damage to kill everything thats not a boss instantly anyway.

If you're concered about running to maps asap then maybe something like this?:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAMeBAcFtQceCNQI9A5IDo4PxBEvEZYTgxPfGdce8B9BIG4i6iL0I18mlSoLKlsrCjBbMgEyGDpYO3w9X0IsQzZFfEW5RwZJUUmxTLNQMFJTUuxTMVRiVUtVxl3yYeJh62JPYqxjQ2pDbAhsC2yMbRltbHBRcFJ2b3n2elN-sH_Gg9uEd4nTigaMC4w2kyeVLpeVl5eX9JuanaqgQ6B5oS-io60zshmzA7QMtDi0xbVIt3W4yrkGuXy86r6KwFTBxcHzwuzJBsrTz3rQH9fP2FTb5-UZ53To1utj7LDuFe-I7-vw1fD58Yry4fk3-_X9Sg==

There aren't really any good ways of pathing for mines with life tbh, so it's a little awkward no matter what.

Also as far as links go, wed > slower proj > added cold

Yeah that's the problem (144%+3jew inc life only with weak defenses,) 1 lag spike or weird thing going on and it's a rip.
You don't run GMP or what are you dropping in favor of slower p.roj?

You can't do kb mines without a 4 link, the links you must have imo before "luxury" ones like wed/slower proj/added cold etc are: kb minefield gmp and remote mines.

I can't see a feasible way of safely transitioning to maps without some form of lake farm into ci

Just remember though, A 5 link is probably enough to destroy everything, and a 4 link fire nova mines will melt bosses.

I'm undecided echelon, but even then I'm halfway around the world so...

I asked because popular setup is KB, mine, gmp, added cold, minefield and WED (not in particular order) but you mentioned slower proj which would be 7th link.
as useful as teasalt
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 02 2017 07:08 GMT
#23916
Yeh added cold is nice to level with at low levels if you happen across a 5 link, but when you start getting some wed on your gear and flat damage in particular added cold falls off super hard.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 02 2017 07:18 GMT
#23917
Ah, there is a Shock Nova buff. Should still be inferior to Lightning Tendrils damage as well as AoE though. Also regarding Threshold jewels as quest rewards: It's entirely possible now that you can buy all gems from Siosa. Lots of quest rewards could be changed. However, I think that would be mentioned in the patch notes. So I don't think so yet.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 02 2017 07:27 GMT
#23918
wtf am I talking about, I forgot pierce.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
March 02 2017 09:39 GMT
#23919
On March 02 2017 15:20 EchelonTee wrote:
if we stay alive we could map in a group Day 2, should help with the safety. I'm going to have dual curse blasphemy at least

speaking of which, who's playing on HC?

I am, planning on doing FP totem inquisitor, hopefully the new jewel wont be too pricy.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 16:14:43
March 02 2017 13:00 GMT
#23920
mh. not sure yet.
maybe ill try sunder.
maybe warchief totems.
somewhat tempted to try a summoner, but i really dont like the idea of spectres. srs + zambies?
maybe steal pohx bllight build.

many options
edit: nah, dont think will run blight. might go for bv, that should pretty pretty stupid this league.
also some redditor put up some real good numbers on aoe/buffs nerfs: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5x28rv/chart_aoe_nerfbuff_amount_detailed_for_all_skills/
useful if you are a blind bat and trust more in numbers than the visual calculators.
Prev 1 1194 1195 1196 1197 1198 1758 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
11:00
#14
IntoTheiNu 1618
RotterdaM723
TKL 293
SteadfastSC207
Ryung 193
IndyStarCraft 174
Rex138
CosmosSc2 52
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2200
RotterdaM 751
Lowko413
TKL 325
Ryung 185
SteadfastSC 176
IndyStarCraft 174
Rex 138
CosmosSc2 52
RushiSC 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45743
Calm 4683
Jaedong 2570
Shuttle 1442
Mini 926
Soma 609
EffOrt 584
actioN 419
BeSt 309
Larva 244
[ Show more ]
Snow 241
Stork 221
ggaemo 193
Soulkey 188
Rush 145
Mong 118
Dewaltoss 113
hero 112
Hyun 74
sorry 55
Free 42
Movie 37
Shine 31
ToSsGirL 29
Sharp 24
Bale 19
scan(afreeca) 19
Barracks 19
Rock 19
HiyA 16
Yoon 16
zelot 13
Sacsri 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Purpose 8
Terrorterran 7
Dota 2
Gorgc10366
qojqva950
Dendi928
XaKoH 529
LuMiX2
Counter-Strike
x6flipin610
byalli520
edward76
Other Games
hiko881
B2W.Neo520
DeMusliM290
Hui .200
Mew2King93
FrodaN0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick30726
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3065
• TFBlade854
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
17h 55m
CrankTV Team League
19h 55m
OSC
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
CrankTV Team League
1d 19h
OSC
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.