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phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
February 17 2017 19:24 GMT
#23661
@solidbebe Well it can be 6/2 points and not 4/4.Yes uber lab is extremly difficult i havent ever pass a trial without dying,trials are sick too, i expect some nerfs to both.The problem with lab is (especially in HC), i wait until 50-60 level and then run the 2 first labs at least,because thats the most efficiant way ,you dont need to waste time the reward isnt good in level 30,so i just run blindly in the first 2 labs 30 levels above and most people i think doing the same,thats bad design i think.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
February 17 2017 19:34 GMT
#23662
I'm pretty hyped to play poe again since I mostly took this season off other than to dick around on hc for the first time near the end. Not sure what build to do. Both mgamahus flame cyclone and HOWA spectral throw look fun, but I'm not sure what the top builds are.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 17 2017 20:44 GMT
#23663
On February 18 2017 04:24 phantomlancer23 wrote:
@solidbebe Well it can be 6/2 points and not 4/4.Yes uber lab is extremly difficult i havent ever pass a trial without dying,trials are sick too, i expect some nerfs to both.The problem with lab is (especially in HC), i wait until 50-60 level and then run the 2 first labs at least,because thats the most efficiant way ,you dont need to waste time the reward isnt good in level 30,so i just run blindly in the first 2 labs 30 levels above and most people i think doing the same,thats bad design i think.

It depends on what ascendancy you're getting, since you're gonna do lab at some point anyways, you might as well do it asap to start leveling faster.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 17 2017 20:50 GMT
#23664
I advise people to consider the person they are responding to before putting too much effort into explaining anything with logic
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phantomlancer23
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
733 Posts
February 17 2017 21:15 GMT
#23665
On February 18 2017 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
I advise people to consider the person they are responding to before putting too much effort into explaining anything with logic

lol
Most people plays as i describe,probably there is a small very high skill percentage like alur who can make these calls ocationally and get advantage.I think the philosophy with 10 acts is to reduce the repetitiveness and 4 labs and 10 acts doesnt make scense to me its too much time in lab.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 18 2017 06:09 GMT
#23666
lab is pretty low risk once you are used to it, most people die because they panic in traps or allow izaro to get partially/fully buffed. Fighting unbuffed izaro in Normal and Cruel is really not too hard, comparable to Kaom in my opinion. Also note that earlier difficulties have fewer trap encounters, and they are simpler to navigate

I would argue if your risk of dying in lab is extremely low, it's MORE efficient to do lab at a level appropriate time (as long as you have relevant flasks / movement skill ready). Because even if the first 2 ascedency nodes don't add much, it's still something that will increase your leveling time, and all the mobs you are killing in the lab aren't wasted xp / time. And then there are classes like Slayer or Pathfinder (poison) who get huge value out of doing norm lab asap.

that all said, since so many people find lab tedious I think it would be fine if they made things easier, as long as they don't dampen uber lab. that shit is so fun to me and a certain portion of the PoE playerbase, that it would be rly sucky if they gutted it to appease everyone
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 06:26:55
February 18 2017 06:26 GMT
#23667
Lab would require a tutorial of its own for ppl to not hate it by the time they're done. Some trials do need a bit of work (looking at you, Piercing Truth), but the lab itself is pretty enjoyable if you have a good movement skill, decent flasks or regen and a rough understanding of trap patterns. But even some streamers seem to simply run through it and hope they don't die. Yes, there are patterns that force you to take a hit or two. That's why you have flasks, and that's why there are mobs to refill said flasks. Doesn't mean it's all mindless running.

On another note, those new jewels that drastically modify a skill are really nice. With the 1h buffs, it almost gives me hope for that elusive Glacial Hammer build!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 18 2017 08:38 GMT
#23668
Map trials are awful. Most of them are harder than the traps that Uber Lab has. Exception would be Stinging Truth which is easy for most characters, some of mine could run through it completely and be done in like 20 sec.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3473 Posts
February 18 2017 10:32 GMT
#23669
On February 18 2017 17:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Map trials are awful. Most of them are harder than the traps that Uber Lab has. Exception would be Stinging Truth which is easy for most characters, some of mine could run through it completely and be done in like 20 sec.

So is it Piercing Truth or Stinging Doubt .
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 18 2017 13:24 GMT
#23670
cospris discharge can shield charge through all of them in ~30 seconds
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 15:07:09
February 18 2017 15:05 GMT
#23671
On February 18 2017 19:32 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 17:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Map trials are awful. Most of them are harder than the traps that Uber Lab has. Exception would be Stinging Truth which is easy for most characters, some of mine could run through it completely and be done in like 20 sec.

So is it Piercing Truth or Stinging Doubt .

Oh ya true it's called Stinging Doubt. Woops.

On February 18 2017 22:24 bo1b wrote:
cospris discharge can shield charge through all of them in ~30 seconds

That I doubt, the lava ground one has several small rooms (with doors iirc, didnt play PoE recently) where movement skills are pretty shit to use. And it's huge.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-18 15:26:58
February 18 2017 15:26 GMT
#23672
On February 18 2017 06:15 phantomlancer23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 05:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
I advise people to consider the person they are responding to before putting too much effort into explaining anything with logic

lol
Most people plays as i describe,probably there is a small very high skill percentage like alur who can make these calls ocationally and get advantage.I think the philosophy with 10 acts is to reduce the repetitiveness and 4 labs and 10 acts doesnt make scense to me its too much time in lab.



Most people plays as i describe


Prove it

either you work for ggg and have the data on hand, or you're talking out of your ass like a child.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 20 2017 05:20 GMT
#23673
On February 19 2017 00:05 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 19:32 vndestiny wrote:
On February 18 2017 17:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Map trials are awful. Most of them are harder than the traps that Uber Lab has. Exception would be Stinging Truth which is easy for most characters, some of mine could run through it completely and be done in like 20 sec.

So is it Piercing Truth or Stinging Doubt .

Oh ya true it's called Stinging Doubt. Woops.

Show nested quote +
On February 18 2017 22:24 bo1b wrote:
cospris discharge can shield charge through all of them in ~30 seconds

That I doubt, the lava ground one has several small rooms (with doors iirc, didnt play PoE recently) where movement skills are pretty shit to use. And it's huge.

Shield charge with 16% more attack speed gloves move so fast that you dont need to stop and worry about lava damaging you. It's a disgustingly strong build, and thats probably the slowest trial to go through.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
February 20 2017 21:08 GMT
#23674
how does cospri's discharge compare with CoC vortex in your opinion? probably going to do one of those builds for my clear speed vroom vroom char
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
February 20 2017 23:04 GMT
#23675
I was playing a coc vortex recently, but never done a cospri discharge so cant compare.

Clearspeed is insane(altho i do have lvl 21 gem and shavs for lowlife version)
Clears about as quick as a King of the queen poison LA/TS Assassin.
However many maps have super annoying blocks, rocks, pillars, trees, in the way that make running various map ssometimes annoying(cyclone really needs a QOL upgrade).
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 20 2017 23:26 GMT
#23676
I think Assassin version of Cospri's Discharge is fastest. It's also the most expensive to cap out, but it's actually pretty cheap to get going so it doesn't feel that bad.
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
February 21 2017 02:41 GMT
#23677
Can someone run by me the point of Eldritch Battery? What kind of builds are people doing with it?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 03:47:43
February 21 2017 03:29 GMT
#23678
it's main use is if you have a very high mana cost spell, but want to reserve all or close to all your mana. you're able to continually cast with a Stone Golem + ZO es regen tactic, or the ZO unique flask. I used it on an SRS character league starter, so I could run a bunch of auras but still cast 100+ mana cost srs with no investment in mana nodes. you run EB along with MoM to gain some defensiveness as well.

you can get like 8-9k EHP, but it's strictly worse than CI I would say. IMO it's only useful as league starter before you have currency

new uniques: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1836420

staff and boot don't seem useful to me. Mace should have enough dps to be an alternate to marohi. notably higher pdps if my math is right? like 430, while marohi tops out at 416 pdps, lacking inc aoe tho

aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-21 04:15:05
February 21 2017 04:14 GMT
#23679
as a Life for life-screw ES autist those boots looks good.

also start giving more love to cold/shock instead of just m-muh fire...
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 21 2017 15:15 GMT
#23680
well shield charge just got even stronger i guess
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