EPTHow about this for an Assassin-Bladeflurry-CWC-Bladefall build?
And should i later stack up Chaos DMG (due to Assassin Ascendancy) or remain looking for Phys?
Its HC and Life focussed because i'm still pretty poor.
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Velr
Switzerland10965 Posts
How about this for an Assassin-Bladeflurry-CWC-Bladefall build? And should i later stack up Chaos DMG (due to Assassin Ascendancy) or remain looking for Phys? Its HC and Life focussed because i'm still pretty poor. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 30 2016 15:17 Frolossus wrote: is there anything that plays similarly to a shotgun crusader from d3? short-mid range conical damage that increases as you get closer to your target. lots of stutter stepping or jade witch doctor where you cast a bunch of dots then nuke things based on like 30 seconds of future dot damage? Freezing Pulse is more effective closer you are to enemy. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 30 2016 07:01 ASoo wrote: OK, so now that I'm reasonably rich and farming steadily on a reasonable build, I think it's time to sink some currency into something stupid, pointless, hipsterish, and meme-laden. Here's what I'm thinking so far:
I'm wondering:
(Yes, I am aware that this build is stupid and will probably never get past low maps.) I think I am pretty known by now for trying out hipster, crazy builds but this one is even hipster by my standards :D I can tell you that I tried a full on Saboteur Trapper using Voltaxic and Lightning Traps with Traps poison jewels and didn't work well. I don't know how other Lighting to Chaos would work well. Thing is you lose two slots of lots of bonus damage, except for conversion to Chaos, Voltaxic does not boost your damage and even with Drillneck in quiver slot (and 100% pierce) damage is not good enough - and you will not even be able to use Drillneck with non projectile Lightning spells. But if you really want to do this, I would go pathfinder for Poison on any flask use. Poison is 50% of the reason to go Chaos damage. Another option would be to go 100% conversion to fire and use Fire to Chaos conversion :D Or do an autobomber which this seems to be similar to anyways (but more complicated using worse items). | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 30 2016 20:00 Velr wrote: https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYAAAQHBx4I9A5ID6sRLxGWFe0WvxhqIvQkiyaVKgsqOCsKOlg9X0lRSbFMs1JTVL1VxlgHXEBd8mHiZJ1qQ2qMbAttGXBSdf14L3zlf8aD24Rvj_qTJ5UulouXlZf0m6Gi2ayYsNi1SMBUwzrIFNRC1bnXz-tj6_XviPDV8h31b_fX-Tc= How about this for an Assassin-Bladeflurry-CWC-Bladefall build? And should i later stack up Chaos DMG (due to Assassin Ascendancy) or remain looking for Phys? Its HC and Life focussed because i'm still pretty poor. Stacking Chaos is only worth it if you get a decent number of either physical to chaos conversion of get enough add extra chaos damage based on physical. But 10% increased physical is never going to be worse than 10% increased chaos. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 30 2016 15:17 Frolossus wrote: is there anything that plays similarly to a shotgun crusader from d3? short-mid range conical damage that increases as you get closer to your target. lots of stutter stepping or jade witch doctor where you cast a bunch of dots then nuke things based on like 30 seconds of future dot damage? shrapnel shot with point blank seems like it'd be the first from the way you describe it, i've never played D3 so not sure if that's actually similar. i googled for a vid, but can't find anything that's from this league or the last, apparently it's not a very popular skill lol. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10965 Posts
On December 30 2016 21:28 -Archangel- wrote: Stacking Chaos is only worth it if you get a decent number of either physical to chaos conversion of get enough add extra chaos damage based on physical. But 10% increased physical is never going to be worse than 10% increased chaos. So, do i understand the assassin perk right? Physical leads to bleed which leads to poison/chaos. Therefore phys is best? So why do some people push chaos nodes? | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On December 31 2016 03:47 Velr wrote: So, do i understand the assassin perk right? Physical leads to bleed which leads to poison/chaos. Therefore phys is best? So why do some people push chaos nodes? the poison double dips the increased chaos dmg | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On December 31 2016 03:47 Velr wrote: So, do i understand the assassin perk right? Physical leads to bleed which leads to poison/chaos. Therefore phys is best? So why do some people push chaos nodes? Poison damage is equal to 8% of your physical+chaos damage dealt to enemy. Poison damage itself is Chaos damage. So increased chaos damage nodes double dip but that means little if most of your damage is physical. You will get more by just increasing physical damage. Also Bleed Damage is based on physical damage only. So if you bleed and poison, physical damage increase is better. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1354 Posts
On December 31 2016 03:47 Velr wrote: So, do i understand the assassin perk right? Physical leads to bleed which leads to poison/chaos. Therefore phys is best? So why do some people push chaos nodes? Wait doesn't that build use the added chaos gem cos it's to both BFs? In which case a significant portion of your damage isn't even from chaos conversion. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Is http://poe.trade/search/kunonoyokeyoba the website you guys use for trading? edit: I also see a ton of characters using this unique item Facebreaker Mitts+ Show Spoiler +. Do unique items stay at a certain level (Facebreaker mitts are level 16), or can they drop as higher level/stats? This could just me being new to PoE, but it seems off that these suped up toons would be using a level 40 weapon and level 16 gloves still. | ||
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HolydaKing
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Facebreaker are Facebreaker, they don't have another version or can be upgraded. They vary hugely on the rolls, though. But it can be used all the way to lvl 100 if you know what to do, as strange as it may sound to you. That means using no weapon and scaling the damage with physical damage to attacks from rings/amulets and other stuff that have it like Abyssus (a unique). Facebreaker boosts that damage a lot if used when unarmed. With Trypanon it's kinda similar, you always crit with attacks which is a unique stat to the weapon. This alone makes it really strong with the right build. Also FYI there often are fake offers on the top of the list on poe.trade, basically people that try to make uniques cheaper. Also people often don't check price and those items get either sold really quickly or relisted later on. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
On December 31 2016 18:30 sung_moon wrote: Sorry for continuous noob questions, but I think I have enough Chaos Orbs stashed to start making moves toward this Trypanon Templar build. Is http://poe.trade/search/kunonoyokeyoba the website you guys use for trading? edit: I also see a ton of characters using this unique item Facebreaker Mitts+ Show Spoiler +. Do unique items stay at a certain level (Facebreaker mitts are level 16), or can they drop as higher level/stats? This could just me being new to PoE, but it seems off that these suped up toons would be using a level 40 weapon and level 16 gloves still. You shouldn't use the required level for an item as a reference of its usefulness. Facebreakers can be used as an endgame (level 90+) weapon too. And some other high level items are useless. | ||
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Quateras
Germany867 Posts
This could just me being new to PoE, but it seems off that these suped up toons would be using a level 40 weapon and level 16 gloves still. You gotta think differently here, remember most people arent using their main attacks in 1 handed weapons either (they 4 , 5 or 6 link their armor for the attack skill) so the weapon becomes kind of like a "stat-stick" that adds some property to your linked gems in your armor. -> meaning weapon dmg or level for some skills arent really important | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On December 31 2016 18:30 sung_moon wrote: Sorry for continuous noob questions, but I think I have enough Chaos Orbs stashed to start making moves toward this Trypanon Templar build. Is http://poe.trade/search/kunonoyokeyoba the website you guys use for trading? edit: I also see a ton of characters using this unique item Facebreaker Mitts+ Show Spoiler +. Do unique items stay at a certain level (Facebreaker mitts are level 16), or can they drop as higher level/stats? This could just me being new to PoE, but it seems off that these suped up toons would be using a level 40 weapon and level 16 gloves still. items have an item level and an equip level. it's important that the item level is high enough to roll max sockets | ||
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HolydaKing
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IgnE
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HolydaKing
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On January 01 2017 05:33 IgnE wrote: i just started playing this game casually w a friend. is infernal blow any good? or is earthquake better in every way? and is there a way to farm respec points or are they limited to a certain number of quest-based rewards? Not an expert on Infernal Blow but I'd think that it's inferior to Earthquake in most cases, an exception might be when there are A LOT of monsters. You pretty much are limited to the 24 respec points from quests if you don't have much currency, the Orb of Regrets needed for respecing don't drop very often. There's a Divination Card you could farm, but it'd end up disappointing and taking too long, don't do it. If you mess up a character too hard, I'd suggest to restart once you struggle too much. | ||
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incinerate_
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Re: Infernal Blow vs Earthquake: I think EQ is mechanically superior simply for the fact that you can hit the ground and the explosion will go off. That being said Infernal Blow's explosion is incredibly satisfying. Edit: My question is answered in the negative here: www.pathofexile.com. It is even intended behavior. Good thing I noticed before buying my gear. | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On January 01 2017 06:15 incinerate_ wrote: I am currently planning a full fire conversion dual warchief totem build using Ngamahu's Flame. Before I sink >150c into that can anyone tell me whether the "Attack with Moltenstrike on Hit" will proc from the totems if they attack or from me despite using totems? Re: Infernal Blow vs Earthquake: I think EQ is mechanically superior simply for the fact that you can hit the ground and the explosion will go off. That being said Infernal Blow's explosion is incredibly satisfying. Edit: My question is answered in the negative here: www.pathofexile.com. It is even intended behavior. Good thing I noticed before buying my gear. I am playing a such build with an elementalist and it is super powerful, even without Molten Burst effect. 30k dps per totem with unoptimized character that still needs to do uber lab (which would give me 25% fire penetration) on a 5L. Also I am still not using Xoph's Blood amulet which is part of this build. Add on top of that Ignite damage and this will go crazy. | ||
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incinerate_
172 Posts
On January 01 2017 10:58 -Archangel- wrote: I am playing a such build with an elementalist and it is super powerful, even without Molten Burst effect. 30k dps per totem with unoptimized character that still needs to do uber lab (which would give me 25% fire penetration) on a 5L. Also I am still not using Xoph's Blood amulet which is part of this build. Add on top of that Ignite damage and this will go crazy. Hmm, that sounds interesting. I am just not sure whether it's better than the following alternative which some people use: Kongor's Undying Rage + Elemental Overload using Call of the Brotherhood, Pyre, Phys to Lightning (and Xoph's or Avatar of Fire). Kongor's has higher dps (and is 3c while Ngamahus is >= 60c in BHC) and EO is the better multiplier (compared to the 10 Fire Pen that Nagamhu's gives you). You can probably make that up with two good rings though. The ignite is a really good point which I hadn't thought about yet. Does Phys Damage that is converted to fire double dip on the ignite? Probably not? I leveled a Marauder (plan to go Chieftain) but I see the appeal of Elementalist with the additional fire penetration. | ||
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