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ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
November 30 2016 17:24 GMT
#22781
On December 01 2016 01:22 Meta wrote:
Could someone link me a build that would be capable of clearing the end-game bosses and is also not boring? I played BV last league and got burnt out so quick that I never geared enough to clear the final bosses in the atlas. I want to try again in breach but I just don't have any idea what's fun and viable for that content.

Thanks!

Not sure what you find boring and what you don't - but with the nerfs to Blade Flurry as small as they are, that looks like it's going to be the new OP meta skill. If running around blowing up whole screens full of enemies with astrally projected "melee" attacks is a thing that seems fun to you, try it out (it'll definitely be end-game viable).

Mathil's guide to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5eas20/mathil_a_simple_blade_flurry_assassin_full_guide/

If this doesn't look like your cup of tea, what playstyle do you find least boring? Might help us provide better advice.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 30 2016 18:18 GMT
#22782
On December 01 2016 01:22 Meta wrote:
Could someone link me a build that would be capable of clearing the end-game bosses and is also not boring? I played BV last league and got burnt out so quick that I never geared enough to clear the final bosses in the atlas. I want to try again in breach but I just don't have any idea what's fun and viable for that content.

Thanks!

I'd guess the most endgame capable builds are Blade Flurry, Ancestral Warchief, ED/Contagion, Ignite based casters (Flameblast/Vortex), Blade Vortex and poison based bow builds. The new SRS might also be very good, scorching ray is probably decent too. I'm definitely missing a few, but basically you can just look at which of these gameplay types is the most compelling and play that.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 18:42:47
November 30 2016 18:42 GMT
#22783
how hard is it to get 2red 2blue 2green or 2red 3blue 1green on armor?
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
November 30 2016 18:46 GMT
#22784
Use the 1G 2B vorici for 200 chrome each, I would assume would take around 3 tries for 1 of the blue to turn to other color.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 30 2016 18:49 GMT
#22785
just google "vorici calculator" it's not 100% accurate apparently but it's close enough to give you an idea of expected values.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 30 2016 19:02 GMT
#22786
i'm looking for a necro build that doesn't use SRS but the only options i've seen are heavily into spectres.
are there like skeleton/zombie/golem builds maybe with just spectres to support them?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2016 19:14 GMT
#22787
On December 01 2016 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
i'm looking for a necro build that doesn't use SRS but the only options i've seen are heavily into spectres.
are there like skeleton/zombie/golem builds maybe with just spectres to support them?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1579614 this Flame Golem build should be rather good after the patch.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 19:17:09
November 30 2016 19:15 GMT
#22788
None of Skeleton/Zombie/Golems really provide viable damage compared to spectres and SRS. That isn't to say that you can't do the builds, but limits on how many golems you can summon combined with the general lameness of skeletons usually means that your damage is going to eventually limit the content that you can clear at a good pace.

That said, you still CAN do it. Also animate weapon is apparently VERY strong but suffers from all the minion AI issues combined with possibly the lowest quality of life of any minion build.

E: I'm not sold on the AoE clear speed of the flame golem build but I haven't tried it so who knows
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 19:28:15
November 30 2016 19:20 GMT
#22789
On December 01 2016 04:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
None of Skeleton/Zombie/Golems really provide viable damage compared to spectres and SRS. That isn't to say that you can't do the builds, but limits on how many golems you can summon combined with the general lameness of skeletons usually means that your damage is going to eventually limit the content that you can clear at a good pace.

That said, you still CAN do it. Also animate weapon is apparently VERY strong but suffers from all the minion AI issues combined with possibly the lowest quality of life of any minion build.

Animate Weapon is sick. But yeah annoying to play. Still it's amazing, just around 10-15 weapons kill Uber Izaro almost instantly. Still wouldn't ever use it for farming Lab, as you gotta collect weapons for that. Personally played a Animate Weapon build with it being linked to Spell Totem and SRS self cast so I didn't need to collect weapons for mapping. That version was much more QOL but you sometimes lose a 6s which sucks a bit. Anyway just with Queen's Escape I was killing everything I tried (before dying, HC char :/) pretty much instantly.

Also their AI isn't much of a problem when you have 30+ of them, in fact I liked it better than SRS because you can guide them. If you just want to kill the boss you can self cast Wither on it any they all attack it (if there's space to attack).
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 30 2016 19:39 GMT
#22790
wouldnt the flame golem build essentially be magma orb with bad ai and less scaling?
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2016 19:44 GMT
#22791
On December 01 2016 04:39 ticklishmusic wrote:
wouldnt the flame golem build essentially be magma orb with bad ai and less scaling?

Well, the build I linked killed decently fast. Now it gets buffed by 200%... the clear speed might still not be amazing, but the damage should be.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
November 30 2016 20:26 GMT
#22792
On December 01 2016 04:02 Frolossus wrote:
i'm looking for a necro build that doesn't use SRS but the only options i've seen are heavily into spectres.
are there like skeleton/zombie/golem builds maybe with just spectres to support them?

I'm assuming you are talking about summon based builds? Two strong non-summon necro builds are Scourge Based Poison Bladefall (or some other poison skill) or Aura Support (huge dps for buddies, can solo depending on how you make the build).

For summon based builds, Animate Weapon (chaos preferably, elemental also ok) is the strongest non-spectre non-srs build, great clear and damage. Like others said it's a bit clunky, but I found it actually quite fun just because the playstyle is so different. I recommend non spell totem if you go chaos version because the less multiplier will really hurt your poison dps. Make sure to get a loot filter that is Animate Weapon focused, highlights weapons.

Chaos Version 1 uses dom blow // HC Chaos Weapon, better guide // Spell Totem ele AW

I never tried Skeleton build, but Ghazzy makes fairly good summoner guides and from the videos it looks decently strong

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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 20:34:32
November 30 2016 20:32 GMT
#22793
I did the chaos version of TheUberElite with Spell Totem instead of Melee Splash, which hurt the AoE clear a little but with 30+ weapons it was extremely good still. What I did different is that I also used SRS (loved their movementspeed with Queen's Escape lol) which of course meant I had to ditch some rather useful gems because of the lack of sockets. That way I had 70-80 summons up often, which was crazy fun and I had no lags. For extremely hard maps/bosses you can easily switch out the totem for another support, though I never encountered one while I played. But I don't think the build is good for T16 maps and can impossibly do Shaper (no weapons drop).
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2016 22:02 GMT
#22794
New Passive tree changes are up with PoESkillTree from Emmitt.

Download here or simply update old versions.

New Totem nodes are sick. 10% attack speed from Totemic Zeal, and the little nodes before Totemic Mastery are huge too. I was orginally planning to skip the later, but no way I'm doing that now.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 22:09:34
November 30 2016 22:09 GMT
#22795
well, looks like i might do inquisitor ele crit warchief totems. shoutout to whoever mentioned it earlier in the thread.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 30 2016 22:34 GMT
#22796
On December 01 2016 07:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
well, looks like i might do inquisitor ele crit warchief totems. shoutout to whoever mentioned it earlier in the thread.

I got one running using Goddess Scorned sword
It is already crazy at low 70ish level with lvl 17/18 gems.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-01 00:41:06
November 30 2016 23:48 GMT
#22797
Finally they nerfed rumi. :C

I find it funny that CI FB Totem inquisitor and flameblast in general got only buffed here. Might aswell take it to 100 second time this league.
Still pretty tempted to go Chieftain totems just because it's so easy league starter + more forgiving in uber trials/lab and then I'd soon have all my characters repeated second time on league. Inbefore none of them die this time either.
Other shit I was interested in just got nerfed.

Maybe I try SRS first after that buff and hopefully it lags a lot less too.

Anyone interested in templar gems on launch hours? I need bladefall but can't buy it.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 01 2016 00:06 GMT
#22798
i got a vaal summon skeletons today so that's why i was wondering
thanks guys!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-01 00:09:14
December 01 2016 00:08 GMT
#22799
On December 01 2016 09:06 Frolossus wrote:
i got a vaal summon skeletons today so that's why i was wondering
thanks guys!

That's a rather helpful gem for almost any char if you need some disctracting food for bosses while leveling. And for summoners it also deals a ton of damage.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-01 00:21:32
December 01 2016 00:21 GMT
#22800
On December 01 2016 08:48 Ryndika wrote:
Finally they nerfed rumi. :C

I find it funny that CI FB Totem inquisitor and flameblast in general got only buffed here. Might aswell take it to 100 second time this league.
Still pretty tempted to go Chieftain totems just because it's so easy league starter + more forgiving in uber trials/lab and then I'd soon have all my characters repeated second time on league. Inbefore none of them die this time either.
Other shit I was interested in just got nerfed.

Maybe I try SRS first after that buff and hopefully it lags a lot less too.

Anyone interested in templar gems on launch day? I need bladefall but can't buy it.

should definitely be a witch or 2 who can help you. selling off increased duration / immortal call can make you some money early league too

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