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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 03 2016 06:39 WaveofShadow wrote: Can someone link a build? I haven't done much research this time around and want to compare to the couple things I will look at. youtube.com 6 min vid with explanations + gameplay by a guy who went lvl 99 in HC last league I think. passive tree is below the vid. | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On June 03 2016 05:28 r.Evo wrote: Something akin to this sounds pretty good. I think that build only got buffed since then but I'm also a fanboy. :3 That's the build I'll be going. There's a SC version I found that drops the left 38%? life nodes for like 100% more crit multi and +1 frenzy (aka more damage). Interchangeable with enough regrets to go the voltaxic + frostwall route in case i don't like it. And yes the bleed+poison stacking buff looks real nice, I'm sure uber izaro will be super easy with this, take off split, hit him once or twice for 100k poison ticks, run around like a chicken for 10 seconds --> profit. 100% more damage on bleed and poison ezpz. Gearwise might be a tad costly but who knows. Thanks to others on flameblast info, I'll stick to bows since I've already done enough spark, totems, firestorm caster stuff already. 40/40 grind inc. | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
On June 03 2016 06:45 pahndah wrote: That's the build I'll be going. There's a SC version I found that drops the left 38%? life nodes for like 100% more crit multi and +1 frenzy (aka more damage). Interchangeable with enough regrets to go the voltaxic + frostwall route in case i don't like it. And yes the bleed+poison stacking buff looks real nice, I'm sure uber izaro will be super easy with this, take off split, hit him once or twice for 100k poison ticks, run around like a chicken for 10 seconds --> profit. 100% more damage on bleed and poison ezpz. Gearwise might be a tad costly but who knows. Thanks to others on flameblast info, I'll stick to bows since I've already done enough spark, totems, firestorm caster stuff already. 40/40 grind inc. I was thinking about doing an assassin voltaxic pierce but thinking about how to sustain power charges just gave me a headache without finding a solution. I'll go for a deadeye voltaxic 45% crit with diamond flask. Thanks for reminding me snakebite, I'll definitely use it. Also, assassin mostly has the 100% more poison damage on crit. Does it justify to take it instead of all the deadeye perks? +1 arrow, more damage with projectile distance, basic projectile damage and depending on your 2 last points, constant 100% Inc crit chance from Pierce or 45% crit multi from bleeding ennemies | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On June 03 2016 07:08 Superouman wrote: I was thinking about doing an assassin voltaxic pierce but thinking about how to sustain power charges just gave me a headache without finding a solution. I'll go for a deadeye voltaxic 45% crit with diamond flask. Thanks for reminding me snakebite, I'll definitely use it. Also, assassin mostly has the 100% more poison damage on crit. Does it justify to take it instead of all the deadeye perks? +1 arrow, more damage with projectile distance, basic projectile damage and depending on your 2 last points, constant 100% Inc crit chance from Pierce or 45% crit multi from bleeding ennemies Assassin is very easy to hit crit cap, frenzy + gmp + pcoc + fa for quick charges. 100% MORE poison and 100% MORE bleed node alone beats out all of the deadeye stuff I believe? Also snake eye + maim is more defensive options. +1 arrow seems marginal when you have GMP in my eyes. All I know is that the video I saw of this build had quick daresso transitions from off screen, and killed double firestorm lady off screen in a few seconds so I was sold on the build. I'm sure deadeye is fine but I'll be going with assassin. Corrupting snakebite for vuln on hit will be quite the chore though, but at least its not required. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 03 2016 06:44 HolydaKing wrote: youtube.com 6 min vid with explanations + gameplay by a guy who went lvl 99 in HC last league I think. passive tree is below the vid. Beauty. Thanks a ton dude. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
So hard deciding on first char to start league.... | ||
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
On June 03 2016 08:04 pahndah wrote: Assassin is very easy to hit crit cap, frenzy + gmp + pcoc + fa for quick charges. 100% MORE poison and 100% MORE bleed node alone beats out all of the deadeye stuff I believe? Also snake eye + maim is more defensive options. +1 arrow seems marginal when you have GMP in my eyes. All I know is that the video I saw of this build had quick daresso transitions from off screen, and killed double firestorm lady off screen in a few seconds so I was sold on the build. I'm sure deadeye is fine but I'll be going with assassin. Corrupting snakebite for vuln on hit will be quite the chore though, but at least its not required. Right you are doing a puncture poison build. You could add a wither spell totem so you can maim and hinder bosses. and you could self cast temp chains to slow izaro even more and then run around like a chicken Don't forget you will need to charge up your frenzy charges before izaro if you can't to poison hm as soon as you can shoot at him. I think worm flask + southbound is the best solution. After you are at max frenzy charges, you switch the flask out with the least important one for the combat (probably a quicksilver) and southbound with snakebite. In your snakebite, use a setup that will not be important for the beginning of the fight like vaal haste, vaal clarity, bloodrage, inc dura. My first idea for the prophecy league for an uber izaro farmer was a blast rain trapper chin sol point blank assassin with temp chains blasphemy so you can maim, hinder and temp chains at the same time (+ maybe a single vortex trap for the chill). But that would be so annoying to sustain power charges without jaws of agony. The boss would be close to zero movement speed :D | ||
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kju
6143 Posts
On June 03 2016 04:37 HolydaKing wrote: Couldn't you just gem swap before Izaro and tough bosses? I also just checked a EA guide which also says biggest problem is single target damage, so I think it's probably wise to drop the AoE from Scion and pick some more dmg, at least if we end up lacking single target damage. ea st is more than fine. i never used frostwall just swapped out aoe for conc before the boss -> mirror arrow in front of the boss so he stands in place and 5 stacked him with ea + coh frenzy flammability.(i played mostly solo tho) if u expect vms or coc discharge st, thats the wrong build your build has way more aoe than i had + eo, so you're completely fine in red maps | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On June 03 2016 22:59 kju wrote: ea st is more than fine. i never used frostwall just swapped out aoe for conc before the boss -> mirror arrow in front of the boss so he stands in place and 5 stacked him with ea + coh frenzy flammability.(i played mostly solo tho) if u expect vms or coc discharge st, thats the wrong build your build has way more aoe than i had + eo, so you're completely fine in red maps Nah, I never expected top tier single target damage. If I did, I would play Blade Vortex.  Isn't EA one of the better skills for doing Hall of the Grandmasters? So the ST damage can't be crazy bad anyway. Like this guy did it solo: www.youtube.comBtw, bigger AoE should also mean better single target no? Like, if I shoot at a Frost Wall or whatever Wall, chances are higher the EA explosions catch the monsters. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On June 03 2016 23:16 travis wrote: so hyped. just gonna walk around cleaning the house for the next 5 hours I always aim to sleep before leagues and end up up way too early. :< Still not 100% on what exactly I'll do so I'm a bit flexible depending on what group we get on launch. I think only Kickstart and Tyrran told me for sure they'll be around so we're open to a few more. All that's needed is that you're familiar with going reasonably fast in a new league (nothing crazy fast but also no chilling in town every waypoint so know how you wanna level) and the ability to talk to us. Speaking of talking, since the TL TS is down since a month now and using the TL Discord offers us no real moderation or setup options among other stuff there are two major things for people to use: If you really love teamspeak (or really dislike discord =P) I ended up renting a server that will be up for the foreseeable future. This is also what we'll start our HC adventures on this round. If anyone here wants a private passworded corner for his group or similar stuff just hit me up. + Show Spoiler + Address: teamspeak-de01fn.typefrag.com:5885 Password: evopls If for whatever reason you really love using discord (I won't be seen there for various discord related reasons but that's a whole different can of worms) Blitzkrieg/Cloud has set one up a while ago. If you have any concerns about the server or suggestions for improvement please send him a private message on the server (CloudMephisto) or bug him on TL (Blitzkrieg0). + Show Spoiler + https://discord.gg/0lCp0isWtJenqzkp | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3454 Posts
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
Also, I think I have decided on Assassin SWT. | ||
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kju
6143 Posts
On June 03 2016 23:15 HolydaKing wrote: Nah, I never expected top tier single target damage. If I did, I would play Blade Vortex. Isn't EA one of the better skills for doing Hall of the Grandmasters? So the ST damage can't be crazy bad anyway. Like this guy did it solo: www.youtube.comBtw, bigger AoE should also mean better single target no? Like, if I shoot at a Frost Wall or whatever Wall, chances are higher the EA explosions catch the monsters. its great for hall of gm because u can prestack your fuses on these walls and then "activate" it, boom everything explodes and the exiles can barely react. i would've done it in phc but pussied out because they added a new lightning arrow exile who's the #1 pvper as far as i heard that abuses the pierce + frostwall stuff. it wasn't worth the risk for me. aoe should help in that sense yea alright, just updated my client and it actually starts in a few seconds (i had a 2-4min loading screen before) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Needless to say, your options are offscreen cheese or legacy 100% lightning taken as fire greatwolf ammy (and probably 85+ fire res). Nothing else will mitigate that damage. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
One last question (probably) regarding EA: What about Accuracy? I've read a guide say Accuracy is important for Single Target, while another doesn't even mention it. On wiki it says if an Arrow misses it'll explode wherever it lands instead. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On June 04 2016 03:57 Sn0_Man wrote: The LA char they added to hall of GM uses mirrored gear in I think 6 slots and like 59% lightning penetration in combination with the LA+Pierce "can 1-shot uber" level of cheese. Needless to say, your options are offscreen cheese or legacy 100% lightning taken as fire greatwolf ammy (and probably 85+ fire res). Nothing else will mitigate that damage. 1. play softcore 2. cast on death | ||
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