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Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
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post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 04 2016 10:56 GMT
#20841
On March 04 2016 19:19 r.Evo wrote:
Operation Purge successful, down to 57 out of 77 members. Still 100 pts in guild bank thingy.

Ended up not kicking two people that didn't fall under conditions, RicJames (visited PoE forum in the last few days) and Sintflut2012 (been a while since I saw him but 2012 join date and I remember playing HC with the guy. We'll see if he'll show up <3).

As usual I probably threw someone out who missed this thread and wasn't active for a bit, please just re-apply to the usual suspects or post in this thread with a charactername of yours.

@EvoPlsLessButtons
@GameOfScience (LagLovah)
@TyrgoesTrappin
@Bringer_of_RainS (Oversky)
@Kickstart__
@ProtectorCorvo (Echelon - has someone seen him around in a while?)
@EvoBurngeIina (Blitz)
@Smuftly

Make sure you spread the love a bit so that the first few don't end up with all the messages.

yo mates!

I am back for Asc, dont kick me out :D

(sintflut2012)
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Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
March 04 2016 12:41 GMT
#20842
On March 04 2016 10:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Guide to path of exile:

roll character first day (bonus if your build sucks and run with Evo and get carried)
die
copy evo build
sucess


Careful, he tends to chose build that dont do shit before lvl 75 >.> Be ready to solo malachai if you run with him =p

For my part I still think that the ancestral protector totem is broken as shit and that nobody knows about it. Still wondering if it scales with increased weapon damage ( wording seems to indicate yes, but no confirmation yet).

So I'll run my usual mellee marauder and depending on how easy/hard it is to have this ancestral guy do all the work for me, I'll either go Cheiftain or Juggernaut.




Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
March 04 2016 13:14 GMT
#20843
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 13:18:14
March 04 2016 13:16 GMT
#20844
A question: How does Fortify work with physical dmg reduction? Say I have phys reduction capped at 90 % for a hit by a phys attack that would normally do 100 damage without armor. I also have 20 % dmg reduction because of Fortify. Do they count one after another so I would recieve 8 damage after reduction? If so that means Fortify does much more for you when you have shit phys reduction.

On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed


Sorry, I will only be online for 2-3 hours because I have to get up early tomorrow. : /
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
March 04 2016 13:26 GMT
#20845
On March 04 2016 22:16 Miragee wrote:
A question: How does Fortify work with physical dmg reduction? Say I have phys reduction capped at 90 % for a hit by a phys attack that would normally do 100 damage without armor. I also have 20 % dmg reduction because of Fortify. Do they count one after another so I would recieve 8 damage after reduction? If so that means Fortify does much more for you when you have shit phys reduction.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed


Sorry, I will only be online for 2-3 hours because I have to get up early tomorrow. : /

You can't cap physical reduction, check the armour formula for why.

Thhis link has the info you want. It's better with other mitigation since it works as the very last mechanic, you got it the wrong way around.

Count in # amounts of hits it takes us to die and it should be more obvious.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Rhodry
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany104 Posts
March 04 2016 13:47 GMT
#20846
Hey please reinvite me will be back for Asc - char name - Minervon
TL+ Member
jeefzors
Profile Joined March 2011
United States120 Posts
March 04 2016 14:37 GMT
#20847
Still playing, pls reinvite if kicked gn: Jeefzors
Thanks to denial, I'm immortal. -Fry
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
March 04 2016 14:40 GMT
#20848
Hm? Why would you not be able to cap phys reduction? It's not only armor that grants phys reduction, it's also endurance charges/nodes that give you flat % phys reduction on top of your armor-caused reduction. Your armor might not be able to reach it alone but with other sources it be achievable. Looking at the formular and the graphs on the armor page there is also no reason to assume that you can't reach the phys cap just by armor, theoretically. I reality the hits will mostly be far to big to achieve that but that's another story. Apparently, the phys reduction hits the 90 % cap for a 100 damage hit if you have around 9000 k armor for example.

It also shouldn't matter for the calculation whether Fortify or phy reduction is counted first. Both would result in the same percentage in reduction. Let's say you have 80 % phys reduction (for the sake of calculating, the number doesn't really matter). Phys reduction before Fortify for a 100 hit would mean:

Recieved Damage=(100-80)*4/5=16

And for Fortify before phys reduction:

Recieved Damage=(100-20)*2/10=16

You last sentence obviously makes sense. It's more effective in combination because you will recieve less damage in the end. I guess what I meant was that it gives you less raw damage reduction. Percentaged damage reduction is always the same because it will always grant you 20 %. I guess you can say it's more efficient because other mechanics scale worse percentage-wise at higher reduction-values.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 15:03:54
March 04 2016 15:03 GMT
#20849
If you pick that Duelist class your Foritfy will be at least 24% anyway, so better calculate with that. And yeah I agree you should be able to reach it, especially if you get 7 endurance charges, pick the phys reduction nodes and still stack armor. Though in rare cases where the monsters deal 15k physical damage it might still not be enough.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 04 2016 15:57 GMT
#20850
On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed

HC?
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
March 04 2016 16:04 GMT
#20851
On March 05 2016 00:57 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed

HC?


In the new hc league would be preferred.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 04 2016 16:25 GMT
#20852
ill be starting SC around 7pm est. still havent decided on a build, i kinda want to do static strike but the skill seems weak.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
March 04 2016 16:25 GMT
#20853
On March 05 2016 01:04 Yuljan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 00:57 NotSorry wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed

HC?


In the new hc league would be preferred.

yea that's what I meant of course
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 16:53:31
March 04 2016 16:48 GMT
#20854
On March 05 2016 01:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
ill be starting SC around 7pm est. still havent decided on a build, i kinda want to do static strike but the skill seems weak.

Weak is the wrong word. The skill is a hassle to use, that's the problem with it. With some AoE nodes and now with the buffed Lesser Duration it is probably quite decent. But you still gotta click the enemies, only Multistrike helps a bit.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/105920 Lazy Pally CAN be good with Static Strike for example, but for it to clear decently fast you gotta have good items and high level. It's a little bit too defensive imo. Though Inquisitor might fix that now.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
March 04 2016 16:57 GMT
#20855
On March 04 2016 22:26 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:16 Miragee wrote:
A question: How does Fortify work with physical dmg reduction? Say I have phys reduction capped at 90 % for a hit by a phys attack that would normally do 100 damage without armor. I also have 20 % dmg reduction because of Fortify. Do they count one after another so I would recieve 8 damage after reduction? If so that means Fortify does much more for you when you have shit phys reduction.

On March 04 2016 22:14 Yuljan wrote:
Anyone want to team up tonight? Want to play until my fingers bleed


Sorry, I will only be online for 2-3 hours because I have to get up early tomorrow. : /

You can't cap physical reduction, check the armour formula for why.

Thhis link has the info you want. It's better with other mitigation since it works as the very last mechanic, you got it the wrong way around.

Count in # amounts of hits it takes us to die and it should be more obvious.


Here is a very useful spreadsheet for calculating how many hits you can take: jsfiddle.net

As far as I recall the monster damage average is taken from some datamined stuff after Malachai release.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 17:31:20
March 04 2016 17:31 GMT
#20856
I mean unless there's a way to get to 90% without armor that I'm unaware of (beyond Immortal Call, obviously) there will always exist a physical damage number large enough that your armor will no longer reduce it below 90% just because of how the formula works. I am not sure what the biggest phys hit in the game that you would need to reduce is, though.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
March 04 2016 17:31 GMT
#20857
Oh, teamspeak server was closed on the first O_O, we can use discord now though it seems. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/503657-teamliquid-discord-server

Good thing I'm here early to get things ready for launch!
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 04 2016 17:33 GMT
#20858
Is RF totem the new lazy start option for HC? God, i still dont know what to play. So many choices D:
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 04 2016 17:38 GMT
#20859
On March 05 2016 02:31 Kickstart wrote:
Oh, teamspeak server was closed on the first O_O, we can use discord now though it seems. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/503657-teamliquid-discord-server

Good thing I'm here early to get things ready for launch!


If you're going to use discord I highly recommend taking some time to configure it. If you're using the webapp then there is no push to talk so taking a few minutes to set up your voice threshold properly will keep everyone else happy.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
March 04 2016 17:40 GMT
#20860
On March 05 2016 02:38 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 02:31 Kickstart wrote:
Oh, teamspeak server was closed on the first O_O, we can use discord now though it seems. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/503657-teamliquid-discord-server

Good thing I'm here early to get things ready for launch!


If you're going to use discord I highly recommend taking some time to configure it. If you're using the webapp then there is no push to talk so taking a few minutes to set up your voice threshold properly will keep everyone else happy.

Installed discord and using push to talk, we have no PoE room though for me to check things out in O_O.
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