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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
November 24 2015 16:30 GMT
#20061
The shadow one adding base crit per power charge is busted in half too. Right now there is a choice to make when playing a crit build - a faster weapon with lower base crit, or a slower weapon with higher base crit (Ambusher vs Platinum Kris). Adding base crit per power charge will allow builds to easily reach 95% crit with a faster weapon, resulting in an insane DPS boost.

It will also allow me to revive my +3 Staff Fakener (level 28 Discharge on COC does INSANE DAMAGE) which was only held back by my inability to reach crit cap due the to paucity of +3 staves with good +% crit rolls.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 24 2015 16:37 GMT
#20062
More importantly crit facebreakers :3
(not actually more importantly but that was the least OP but still super cool interaction I could think of)
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
November 24 2015 18:21 GMT
#20063
Also crit incinerate because it doesn't do enough damage as is.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 24 2015 18:25 GMT
#20064
Yeah but crit incinerate seems like a lot of effort for basically no gain (ur still capped at 3.5-4% base crit at most) whereas crit facebreakers u have abyssus etc even though its probably still bad.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
November 24 2015 18:29 GMT
#20065
I did some quick maths and with double daggers and seven power charges you can get around 40% crit strike chance. Its not crazy but given how fast incinerate hits I could see it being viable. Also if you are rich and dual void batteries instead of daggers you can get up to around 50% crit chance.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 18:34:02
November 24 2015 18:32 GMT
#20066
one league rngesus was so kind to my clan that one of us ran 6l shavs low life arcer w/ dual void batteries
was pretty hilarious although so aggressively offensive that it couldn't even clear atziri (trio ruined it)

Realistically though, 50+ ex builds aren't what I theorycraft very often.

I mean yeah u could do it and it would be damaging for sure but it isn't like RF and block and iron will etc don't already scale ur damage fine with more survivable points etc
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 18:41:33
November 24 2015 18:39 GMT
#20067
new masteries make you stupid tanky, so crit facebreaker abyssus seems pretty ok. just stack some endurance charges, take perma fortify and have a granite and lol at phys damage regardless

then again i assume GGG is gonna do all sorts of fun stuff to monster damage and such so it might stil be squishier than you'd like. my firestorm with had like 4.8k hp cap resist and pretty decent armor but still felt real squishy during shitstorm league (mostly due to random beyond and tempest). damage creep is real.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 24 2015 18:47 GMT
#20068
you can't crit without the shadow ascendancy class so u can't take perma fortify
thats the thing, they are all OP but u only get to pick one
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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-24 19:16:41
November 24 2015 19:15 GMT
#20069
On November 25 2015 03:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
one league rngesus was so kind to my clan that one of us ran 6l shavs low life arcer w/ dual void batteries
was pretty hilarious although so aggressively offensive that it couldn't even clear atziri (trio ruined it)

Realistically though, 50+ ex builds aren't what I theorycraft very often.

I mean yeah u could do it and it would be damaging for sure but it isn't like RF and block and iron will etc don't already scale ur damage fine with more survivable points etc

Feel like humoring me? I have a bunch of gear on Standard and would love to play a really OP damaging build that involves the new base crit per power charge ascendancy keystone. Maybe you guys could help me brainstorm some ideas.

Notable gear I have access to (plus pretty much every 1ex unique):
2x void battery
6L +3 cold staff
6L shavs
mjolner
soul taker
voll's devotion
shav's revelation

Bonus points for builds that take advantage of one or both of the following:
crown of eyes
corrupted +1 7/7/7 Surgebinders
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 24 2015 19:28 GMT
#20070
Funnily enough I'm fairly sure that optimal builds these days will basically ascendancy one way (dmg/survivablility) and then gear the other.

So if ur running op dmg items ur probably going to do best with say the fortify ascendancy class free -30% all dmg no drawback.

And vice versa if u go the crit ascendancy u probably spend gear slots on shit like aegis aurora or w/e.

That said, obviously void battery + crit ascendancy = ROFLMAO so

Really, we have to see new tree to figure out how to spec a shavs abusing character plus this shit is a LONG time out.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 24 2015 19:45 GMT
#20071
I'm really excited for planning/creating new builds, as I don't copy other builds at all anymore. That said... even though there are many ascendancy classes already out, I didn't look much at them yet or thought about builds. I don't think there's much of a point until the new passive tree AND all classes are known.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 24 2015 22:48 GMT
#20072
hmm
I'm gonna have a 1 month break from school in January.

Do we know when new leagues are starting?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 24 2015 22:50 GMT
#20073
For 2.2 aka ascendancy
it sounded like near the end of january
one review site said "around 2 months" when the news was released on the 20th or whenever.

Obviously talisman is quite a bit sooner but less exciting too
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 25 2015 01:05 GMT
#20074
hmmm talisman looks fun enough
i'll start late but i'll probably play that
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 25 2015 08:47 GMT
#20075
Didn't play any darkshrine league at all but I sure hope they don't add it to the main game. Reading up on all the crap people can manipulate is absurd
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-25 08:59:37
November 25 2015 08:59 GMT
#20076
Darkshrine is pretty fun with all the OP stuff, however I still hope they only add part of it to the game. The 20% quality thing is fun for example, but it totally destroys GCPs. From the videos of Ascendancy that I have seen it seems like Darkshrines still exist, but they are completely random (and you don't need to sacrisfy rare items anymore). If they are, the 20% quality thing is fine because it can also happen on items you don't want it on.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8664 Posts
November 26 2015 09:59 GMT
#20077
On November 25 2015 17:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Darkshrine is pretty fun with all the OP stuff, however I still hope they only add part of it to the game. The 20% quality thing is fun for example, but it totally destroys GCPs. From the videos of Ascendancy that I have seen it seems like Darkshrines still exist, but they are completely random (and you don't need to sacrisfy rare items anymore). If they are, the 20% quality thing is fine because it can also happen on items you don't want it on.


What do you mean by that? I don't know how the shrine works (random item in your inventory?). Couldn't you just drop everything but the gem and pick it up after activating the shrine?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-26 10:24:57
November 26 2015 10:23 GMT
#20078
On November 26 2015 18:59 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2015 17:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Darkshrine is pretty fun with all the OP stuff, however I still hope they only add part of it to the game. The 20% quality thing is fun for example, but it totally destroys GCPs. From the videos of Ascendancy that I have seen it seems like Darkshrines still exist, but they are completely random (and you don't need to sacrisfy rare items anymore). If they are, the 20% quality thing is fine because it can also happen on items you don't want it on.


What do you mean by that? I don't know how the shrine works (random item in your inventory?). Couldn't you just drop everything but the gem and pick it up after activating the shrine?

Currently it is: Pick a rare item with good affixes, sacrisfy it and hope for the right thing to happen. That way you can do what you said.

From what I've seen in a video, the Darkshrines in Ascendancy kinda work like the old shrines, except you don't know what they do. Meaning, you click at them and a random effect happens, so it could spawn deadly things or do/drop something useful. Unless ofc the guy of the vid already put a rare item in it, though I think completely random shrines would be easier to balance.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8664 Posts
November 26 2015 10:44 GMT
#20079
On November 26 2015 19:23 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2015 18:59 Miragee wrote:
On November 25 2015 17:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Darkshrine is pretty fun with all the OP stuff, however I still hope they only add part of it to the game. The 20% quality thing is fun for example, but it totally destroys GCPs. From the videos of Ascendancy that I have seen it seems like Darkshrines still exist, but they are completely random (and you don't need to sacrisfy rare items anymore). If they are, the 20% quality thing is fine because it can also happen on items you don't want it on.


What do you mean by that? I don't know how the shrine works (random item in your inventory?). Couldn't you just drop everything but the gem and pick it up after activating the shrine?

Currently it is: Pick a rare item with good affixes, sacrisfy it and hope for the right thing to happen. That way you can do what you said.

From what I've seen in a video, the Darkshrines in Ascendancy kinda work like the old shrines, except you don't know what they do. Meaning, you click at them and a random effect happens, so it could spawn deadly things or do/drop something useful. Unless ofc the guy of the vid already put a rare item in it, though I think completely random shrines would be easier to balance.


Alright. This is a case where I wouldn't mind full RNG at all I think.

Well, we will see. I might start playing again when Ascendencies drops. My attempt for the last leagues failed miserably and I'm more on a GW trip lately (that game never gets old, really...). Oh well, a lot can happen until then, so...^^
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 26 2015 16:17 GMT
#20080
On November 25 2015 07:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
For 2.2 aka ascendancy
it sounded like near the end of january
one review site said "around 2 months" when the news was released on the 20th or whenever.

Obviously talisman is quite a bit sooner but less exciting too

They've only said Q1, and talisman (3 month) starts December 11 so it can't be earlier than March.
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