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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 24 2011 20:32 GMT
#881
On August 25 2011 05:18 alkow wrote:
so glad udinese and italian football won't get a fourth spot in the champions league. the league doesn't deserve it. and if italy doesn't watch out, france and portugal will leap frog them in the uefa league coefficients.

Well currently germany is begging to be leapfrogged back again by italy. Not unlikely that all our clubs fail in Europa-League qualification.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 20:38:56
August 24 2011 20:35 GMT
#882
On August 25 2011 05:32 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 05:18 alkow wrote:
so glad udinese and italian football won't get a fourth spot in the champions league. the league doesn't deserve it. and if italy doesn't watch out, france and portugal will leap frog them in the uefa league coefficients.

Well currently germany is begging to be leapfrogged back again by italy. Not unlikely that all our clubs fail in Europa-League qualification.

Yes, and we have Dortmund in pot 4 + Leverkusen in pot 3 in the CL
Sgany
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom790 Posts
August 24 2011 20:40 GMT
#883
On August 24 2011 00:53 TArujo wrote:
i feel bad for an arsenal supporter, how can they get 2 top of the line players with only 1 week before the market closes, some rumours flying around about Schwensteiger to Arsenal, hope they are true


If a godlike player such as Schwensteiger ends up at a bad club like Arsenal I hang myself.
Schwensteiger and Lahm are two players who should never leave Bayern.
NaDa <3, MMA <3, Bisu <3,
alkow
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
August 24 2011 20:48 GMT
#884
On August 25 2011 05:32 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 05:18 alkow wrote:
so glad udinese and italian football won't get a fourth spot in the champions league. the league doesn't deserve it. and if italy doesn't watch out, france and portugal will leap frog them in the uefa league coefficients.

Well currently germany is begging to be leapfrogged back again by italy. Not unlikely that all our clubs fail in Europa-League qualification.


still a 12 point gap for italy to make up. won't happen any time soon.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 24 2011 20:52 GMT
#885
Qualifier finished, the most interesting thing: AC Milan stays in pot 2 because Arsenal and Bayern qualify, so I can have my dream group consisting of Real/AC Milan/Man City/Dortmund.

Please let that happen!

And something like Bayern/CSKA Moscow/FC Basel/Trabzonspor :p
Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 21:15:09
August 24 2011 20:55 GMT
#886
On August 25 2011 01:41 Sanctimonius wrote:
Would still put Netherlands above Germany for the time being - they did get to the final of the World Cup. Germany are a great young team and will probably be better in the next few years. Still, Netherlands above the reigning world champions? Why...?


World Cup 2006:
- Germany: 3rd
- Netherlands: Ro16

European Cup 2008:
- Germany: 2nd
- Netherlands: Ro8

World Cup 2010:
- Germany: 3rd, but having faced England (4:1), Argentina (4:0) and Spain (0:1)
- Netherlands: 2nd, faced Slovakia (2:1), Brasil (2:1) and Uruguay (3:2)

i think germany has been more steady in the last 5 years compared to the netherlands, and germany's opponents in the knock out stage were the strongest of the tournament.

and now during the qualifying stage for Euro 2012 both teams won all of their games.

so considering the facts above germany is way above the netherlands.

and i also don't see how england is rated on 4th place, they didn't even qualify for Euro 2008 and only reached Ro16 at world cup 2010
Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 21:02:50
August 24 2011 20:59 GMT
#887
On August 25 2011 05:52 clusen wrote:
Qualifier finished, the most interesting thing: AC Milan stays in pot 2 because Arsenal and Bayern qualify, so I can have my dream group consisting of Real/AC Milan/Man City/Dortmund.

Please let that happen!

And something like Bayern/CSKA Moscow/FC Basel/Trabzonspor :p



i myself am a passionate bayern fan, but lets hope for the sake of the bundesliga that dortmund and leverkusen also get an easy group.
if hannover knocks out sevilla on thursday and schalke manage to beat helsinki the bundesliga has a great chance to take over spain's second place.

spain only ahead by a 3.655 point margin.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
August 24 2011 21:02 GMT
#888
Yes, Benfica is in the group stages of Champions League
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
August 24 2011 21:56 GMT
#889
On August 25 2011 05:55 Retric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 01:41 Sanctimonius wrote:
Would still put Netherlands above Germany for the time being - they did get to the final of the World Cup. Germany are a great young team and will probably be better in the next few years. Still, Netherlands above the reigning world champions? Why...?


World Cup 2006:
- Germany: 3rd
- Netherlands: Ro16

European Cup 2008:
- Germany: 2nd
- Netherlands: Ro8

World Cup 2010:
- Germany: 3rd, but having faced England (4:1), Argentina (4:0) and Spain (0:1)
- Netherlands: 2nd, faced Slovakia (2:1), Brasil (2:1) and Uruguay (3:2)

i think germany has been more steady in the last 5 years compared to the netherlands, and germany's opponents in the knock out stage were the strongest of the tournament.

and now during the qualifying stage for Euro 2012 both teams won all of their games.

so considering the facts above germany is way above the netherlands.

and i also don't see how england is rated on 4th place, they didn't even qualify for Euro 2008 and only reached Ro16 at world cup 2010


I was under the impression the FIFA rankings are based on much more recent events than four years ago. Germany are the more consistent team, but right now, for me the Netherlands has better players and a better team. That will likely change in the very near future, Germany has a great young team and more exciting players up-and-coming than the Netherlands does.

And England don't belong in the top ten, never mind fourth. Lets face it FIFA rankings are a bit of a farce, much like the rest of the organisation.
You live the life you choose.
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 22:20:57
August 24 2011 22:15 GMT
#890
No danish team in champions league this year too bad. 2 in europa league tho but it's not the same
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
August 24 2011 22:23 GMT
#891
Great save from Szczesny tonight, it's nice to have a decent keeper for a change.
You live the life you choose.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
August 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#892
Wow Nasri is a little bitch, calling out Arsenal fans. That one is all about the money, isn't he?
alkow
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
August 25 2011 06:13 GMT
#893
On August 25 2011 13:47 kakaman wrote:
Wow Nasri is a little bitch, calling out Arsenal fans. That one is all about the money, isn't he?


yeah, nasri's been known to be a petulant little bitch from his french international days. remember that fiasco he had with gallas? a little bitch with a horse face. that's how i view him.
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
August 25 2011 08:52 GMT
#894
agree with the 2 posts above. BUT, maybe it's a good idea moving away from Arsenal. Still too early to tell. Arsenal looks to be fked after losing Fabregas, and now Nasri.
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
August 25 2011 11:21 GMT
#895
I'm not too concerned - it looks like they were pretty badly affected by the uncertainty hanging over them regarding Cesc and Nasri, but they played well against Udinese. With the right signings, and 90mil means you can make those, they should be alright for a top four position. Still, it's a big blow to lose both, although Nasri is replaceable.

Not making himself any friends back at the Emirates is he? Lets face it, he can talk about the passion of the fans all he wants but he left for a paycheck and that never goes down well with the fans of a proud club like Arsenal. Cesc was always going to go back to Barca and taking a paycut shows his determination in that, so it's easier to swallow even if we had hoped it would be later rather than sooner.

So! Kaka to Arsenal, anyone?
You live the life you choose.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51640 Posts
August 25 2011 13:55 GMT
#896
la liga strike is over and games will commence this weekend.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2011/08/25/la-liga-strike-over-as-deal-is-reached/
Commentator
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
August 25 2011 14:01 GMT
#897
On August 25 2011 20:21 Sanctimonius wrote:
So! Kaka to Arsenal, anyone?

rumors say real refused to give kaka to arsenal
Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
August 25 2011 14:52 GMT
#898
On August 25 2011 23:01 BeaTeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 20:21 Sanctimonius wrote:
So! Kaka to Arsenal, anyone?

rumors say real refused to give kaka to arsenal


Yeah, they rejected Arsenal's bid to get Kaka on loan for the season, BUT they want to sell Kaka not loan him out, and apparently Arsenal can have him for 17 million, which Wenger is 'considering' (I read it somewhere, probably an unreliable source) as Mourinho doesn't have Kaka in his plans or something.

So with 5~ days left in the transfer window, I really hope Wenger signs someone big, preferably Hazard / Kaka and an established CB.
Retric
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany284 Posts
August 25 2011 15:35 GMT
#899
UEFA Champions League Group Stage Draw about to begin:

http://video.uefa.com/video/Competitions/UCL/Season=2012/liveDraw_videoFlash.html
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
August 25 2011 15:56 GMT
#900
I have to refresh it every 10 minutes >.>
End my suffering
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