EPTObviously it would be nice to see him in the future with another job - maybe international management would be good for him? Assuming that he struggled with the constant pressure of dealing with matches, having a more relaxed schedule with fewer games would suit him. Then again, it would also be harder for him to mold the team into the style that he wants.
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
Obviously it would be nice to see him in the future with another job - maybe international management would be good for him? Assuming that he struggled with the constant pressure of dealing with matches, having a more relaxed schedule with fewer games would suit him. Then again, it would also be harder for him to mold the team into the style that he wants. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On April 27 2012 23:41 Wurstbrot wrote: CR7 is BY FAR the best player on the planet! Its not even close. If he doesn't win it this year, they should think about changing the voting process. Messi only won 3 times in a row, because he is more likeable. Last year Iniesta should have won. Well played sir. You baited half this thread page! And they say Germans aren't funny, they are very wrong. :p Adding to the discussion.. they are both great players in their own way but as strikers they do tend to get most of the credit when perhaps the engine of the team is just as difficult a role to fill. A few years ago both Chelsea and Real Madrid struggled when they lost Makelele, for example. I'd like them not to give it to Ronaldo or Messi because they've both won it before. Iniesta, Xavi or Xabi Alonso maybe; it's never going to happen though. Strikers always get the glory. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On April 28 2012 03:54 Twisted wrote: Ronaldo is an individualist. He is a great player but only in moments. He's too inconsistent and that has shown a lot in big games. You also can't build a team around Ronaldo because of this fact. You can however build a team around Messi (or other current great team players like Özil, van Persie, Sneijder when he was still in form and Cruijff, Zidane, Litmanen in the past). That is the difference. A good individualist (Ronaldo, Robben) is not a grand player who carries a team. Individual moments against carrying the team and that's why Messi is far more complete than Ronaldo and that's why he earns the Ballon d'Or for the past few years. You are so incredibly wrong. He crosses a hell of a lot. I'd say he offloads probably the same amount of time as messi. You are so skewed in your opinion of Ronaldo. Makes me think either you are a barca/ messi fanboy or you haven't been watching many of Madrid's games this season. He spends ages setting up other people, his crosses are sublime, he puts it on benzema's forehead so often. I'm pretty sure messi wins ball d'or because what he does is more unbelievable than Ronaldo. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
Hats off to him, he was the big architect of this legendary team and will be remembered during decades in the football universe.  | ||
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
On April 28 2012 03:54 Twisted wrote: Ronaldo is an individualist. He is a great player but only in moments. He's too inconsistent and that has shown a lot in big games. You also can't build a team around Ronaldo because of this fact. You can however build a team around Messi (or other current great team players like Özil, van Persie, Sneijder when he was still in form and Cruijff, Zidane, Litmanen in the past). That is the difference. A good individualist (Ronaldo, Robben) is not a grand player who carries a team. Individual moments against carrying the team and that's why Messi is far more complete than Ronaldo and that's why he earns the Ballon d'Or for the past few years. You are talking about the C.Ronaldo of Manchester United. He has evolved and matured a lot in the last two years. It's sad that people don't recognise it. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Hell, even if it works I wouldn't build a team on one player. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On April 28 2012 05:22 sharkie wrote: You are talking about the C.Ronaldo of Manchester United. He has evolved and matured a lot in the last two years. It's sad that people don't recognise it. IMO his best seasons were in a United shirt. Especially 2006-2007 is the season I most enjoyed watching Ronaldo. He could dribble, cross, pass, score and it was also the first time he developed that ridiculous free-kick of his. | ||
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On April 28 2012 05:00 sc4k wrote: You are so incredibly wrong. He crosses a hell of a lot. I'd say he offloads probably the same amount of time as messi. You are so skewed in your opinion of Ronaldo. Makes me think either you are a barca/ messi fanboy or you haven't been watching many of Madrid's games this season. He spends ages setting up other people, his crosses are sublime, he puts it on benzema's forehead so often. I'm pretty sure messi wins ball d'or because what he does is more unbelievable than Ronaldo. Well you say that, but his assist count, while improving pales in comparison to Messi's. He also tends to get involved less in the play in the sense that he gets to break on the flank which is somewhat easier to do than dropping deep and making plays through the middle. And lets not forget his goal count to is penalty inflated, which is fair but voters dont like that kinda stuff. Hes certainly a much better team player now then he was before, thats a major part of the reason Real have won the league. Honestly I'd give it to him for the improvement alone. But frankly I dont care. These awards are pretty stupid now. It comes down to the EC, if Ronaldo goes anonymous there hes pretty fucked. Having the chance to outshine Messi and flopping will count against him. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
I wonder what model will he used for English football though, he did say in the past different teams have different qualities and thus need different styles. :o | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Everyone assumes he's straight to another club Wat? | ||
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Raidern
Brazil3811 Posts
On April 28 2012 03:54 Twisted wrote: Ronaldo is an individualist. He is a great player but only in moments. He's too inconsistent and that has shown a lot in big games. You also can't build a team around Ronaldo because of this fact. You can however build a team around Messi (or other current great team players like Özil, van Persie, Sneijder when he was still in form and Cruijff, Zidane, Litmanen in the past). That is the difference. A good individualist (Ronaldo, Robben) is not a grand player who carries a team. Individual moments against carrying the team and that's why Messi is far more complete than Ronaldo and that's why he earns the Ballon d'Or for the past few years. Messi is better than Ronaldo imo, but Ronaldo has played good enough to get the individual awards in the past 3 years. The only reason he didn't get them is because Madrid didn't win the titles. | ||
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norlock
Netherlands918 Posts
On April 28 2012 06:17 Ysellian wrote: IMO his best seasons were in a United shirt. Especially 2006-2007 is the season I most enjoyed watching Ronaldo. He could dribble, cross, pass, score and it was also the first time he developed that ridiculous free-kick of his. There is a big difference when a player is just a talent, and when he is a recognised player. Nowadays he is being defended most of the times by 2 players, just like messi. Which make it harder to pass 2, 3 people or score. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
On April 28 2012 08:14 Denzil wrote: Guy says he wants a break Everyone assumes he's straight to another club Wat? Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous. I think we can take him at face value that he is going to take a break (for at least a year) - it would be really bad for his image if he were to leave Barcelona so that he could 'take a break' and then join another club right away. | ||
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:29 TranceStorm wrote: Yeah, it is pretty ridiculous. I think we can take him at face value that he is going to take a break (for at least a year) - it would be really bad for his image if he were to leave Barcelona so that he could 'take a break' and then join another club right away. No you got it wrong. The club wants to change the manager, since last year actually. Dunno why since he's incredibly successful but there you have it. | ||
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Timurid
Guyana (French)656 Posts
On April 28 2012 09:58 Steveling wrote: No you got it wrong. The club wants to change the manager, since last year actually. Dunno why since he's incredibly successful but there you have it. I think guardiola doesn't like rosell for shunning out Cryuff from Camp Mou. They probably had some arguments and guardiola got tired of it and decides to leave. Well who knows. Only thing for sure is Camp Mou is going to be a different place now sadly. | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
On April 28 2012 11:17 uberMatt wrote: not sure if this has been posted but i approve of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwD3lnhV-k8 Well, it's perfectly normal. I don't want to hear about sevilla or atletico or anyone else. I want to listen to what pep has to say and after he's done I will close the tv and won't watch sevilla or atletico or anyone else's game, xD. That's how it goes, you take back from what you give. Barca and real are the reason la liga is so famous and they rightfully take the biggest share. | ||
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