On April 06 2012 05:04 Megatronn wrote: If Mourinho wins the Spainish league and the Champions league this year won't that make him the only coach to have ever done it?
No? Guaridola did it just a year or two ago.
I worded my question wrong, oops. I meant to have won the English, Italian and Spanish leagues and win a champions league with 3 different teams from 3 different countries. Apparently I can't focus on typing when i'm watching football rofl.
I see. Normally my football knowledge is very good so I'd be able to answer this question, but I'm drunk as fuck, so I'm not a very reliable source. However, my guess would be he'd be the first.
On April 06 2012 05:04 Megatronn wrote: If Mourinho wins the Spainish league and the Champions league this year won't that make him the only coach to have ever done it?
No? Guaridola did it just a year or two ago.
I worded my question wrong, oops. I meant to have won the English, Italian and Spanish leagues and win a champions league with 3 different teams from 3 different countries. Apparently I can't focus on typing when i'm watching football rofl.
Only Bob Paisley has ever won the Europa cup three times as a manager, but he won all of them with Liverpool. So Mourinho winning it with three different clubs would make him unique.
Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
On April 06 2012 05:04 Megatronn wrote: If Mourinho wins the Spainish league and the Champions league this year won't that make him the only coach to have ever done it?
No? Guaridola did it just a year or two ago.
I worded my question wrong, oops. I meant to have won the English, Italian and Spanish leagues and win a champions league with 3 different teams from 3 different countries. Apparently I can't focus on typing when i'm watching football rofl.
Only Bob Paisley has ever won the Europa cup three times as a manager, but he won all of them with Liverpool. So Mourinho winning it with three different clubs would make him unique.
On April 06 2012 05:25 Pandemona wrote: Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
I wouldn't argue against you, Mourinho has proven time and time again at the highest level how amazing he is as a manager.
On April 06 2012 05:25 Pandemona wrote: Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
I wouldn't argue against you, Mourinho has proven time and time again at the highest level how amazing he is as a manager.
On April 06 2012 05:25 Pandemona wrote: Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
Now that's just ignorant talk. The best coach ever is obviously Rinus Michels, a true genious.
On April 06 2012 05:25 Pandemona wrote: Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
Now that's just ignorant talk. The best coach ever is obviously Rinus Michels, a true genious.
That's funny because in a Dutch football talkshow a journalist who was quite close to Cruijff at some point told a story that Cruijff told him that they basically never really listened to him and just followed their own tactic.
On April 06 2012 05:25 Pandemona wrote: Mourinho just winning the Spanish league will make him the only manager to win English Spanish Italian and Portugese league, can even take out Protugese as its not as comeptitive as the others. He is the best manager in the game and ever (imo)
Now that's just ignorant talk. The best coach ever is obviously Rinus Michels, a true genious.
That's funny because in a Dutch football talkshow a journalist who was quite close to Cruijff at some point told a story that Cruijff told him that they basically never really listened to him and just followed their own tactic.
"I always greatly admired his leadership. Both as a player and as a coach there is nobody who taught me as much as him. He was a sportsman who put the Netherlands on the map in such a way that almost everybody still benefits from it. There is no one I learnt from more than Rinus Michels. I often tried to imitate him, and that's the greatest compliment one could give." Johan Cruyff
[B]On April 05 2012 04:23 Kotreb wrote: I haven't missed these. I've read them and the reason i haven't included them because i've never claimed that barca didn't deserved to pass after both of Milan games. Check my previous posts and feel free to prove me wrong. That article doesn't mention calls against them, it serves to purpose of proving otherwise to the "anti-barca rhetoric" someone posted. And yes, i'm claiming that was penalty because ball was out of play during the shirt grabbing/puyol pushing. Check the regulations, corner should've been stopped and resumed after the situation has been dealt with. It's funny how you proclaimed that i was the kid here while you failed to see what i was trying to say, which was a bit obvious. That's arrogant.
And thats why you missed my point, I was talking about the anti-barca bias in some posters, not talking about the refs being anti-barca. In fact I never said refs were pro or anti barca, and went on to post the link the reinforce the fact that calls go both ways.
[B]On April 05 2012 04:23 Kotreb wrote: I haven't missed these. I've read them and the reason i haven't included them because i've never claimed that barca didn't deserved to pass after both of Milan games. Check my previous posts and feel free to prove me wrong. That article doesn't mention calls against them, it serves to purpose of proving otherwise to the "anti-barca rhetoric" someone posted. And yes, i'm claiming that was penalty because ball was out of play during the shirt grabbing/puyol pushing. Check the regulations, corner should've been stopped and resumed after the situation has been dealt with. It's funny how you proclaimed that i was the kid here while you failed to see what i was trying to say, which was a bit obvious. That's arrogant.
And thats why you missed my point, I was talking about the anti-barca bias in some posters, not talking about the refs being anti-barca. In fact I never said refs were pro or anti barca, and went on to post the link the reinforce the fact that calls go both ways.
meh ill just leave it.
I was referring to this post made by you:
If you recall also one can make an argument about Ambrosini and Nesta, both deserved reds in both legs, the 2 penalties in the 1st leg are not mentioned now anymore . Thats what happens if you turn a blind eye to decisions against Barca wich I have seen over the past years. I really coudln't believe after seeing both deserved penalties people afterwards mounting this ref being Last edit: 2012-04-05 02:40:59 Barca-biased.. Typical anti-Barca rhetoric, not much of it is grounded in reality, just pure bias.
seen your edit now, looks like we were talking about different things.
On April 06 2012 07:15 haitike wrote: Best year for Spain in Europe ever xDDD
2/4 in champions, and 3/4 in the Europe League. This is better that the year Barcelona, Madrid and Valencia were the three in Champions semifinals.
Yea that year was really boring, there was only 1 winner in the Valencia Madrid game. Madrid did what Chelsea would be likely pull this year if they win.
Why? Chelsea was lucky that the first game didn't end in a tie... So the title is perfect...
I'm not in any way saying that Benfica have the upper hand... As I see it, the odds are probably 20-80 right now. But there's still a chance!
And just as an information, Benfica have the 4 central defenders injured... Luisão is the only one that might play, but not likely...
It seems Abramovich has perfected his ability to sack coaches at the perfect time... Napoli deserve to be in this round, did you see the refereeing in the 2nd leg, atrocious!
Anyway what's happening with Benfica? Thought they'd win for sure...
Lol...why did you think they would "win for sure" vs a team who have vast experience in the Champions league to a team who are in there first last 8 appearance since 2006 in the champions league? A team not even top of there domestic league? A team with only 1 very good player in Cordoza and a team not in form? Vs a Chelsea team hitting form after u just said it sacking there manager?
Given Chelsea's poor form (until the sacking of AVB provided the team with a boost to impress the new manager) and also Benifca qualifying first in their group that included Manure.
Chelsea will get destroyed by Barcelona, their squad is worse then when Mourinho was in charge who couldn't get past the semis, then he joined Grande honest Inter.
If you look at results of old tournaments you could make a case that major football clubs from the "big" 3 (Spain, Italy and England) all follow a cyclical form curve. Couple years ago the english clubs were dominant, now the spanish clubs are, and some years back it was italian clubs.
I mean there was a time when Barcelona were total ass, switching managers on a daily basis almost, when Chelsea was merely a upper midtable english club and Real Madrid were considered "lucky" to win CL against Juventus in the late 90s, when italian clubs were so dominant, first with AC Milan in the late 80s/early 90s, Juventus mid/late.
Makes me think what comes after Barcelona and to a lesser extent Madrid?
On April 06 2012 23:34 Tyree wrote: If you look at results of old tournaments you could make a case that major football clubs from the "big" 3 (Spain, Italy and England) all follow a cyclical form curve. Couple years ago the english clubs were dominant, now the spanish clubs are, and some years back it was italian clubs.
I mean there was a time when Barcelona were total ass, switching managers on a daily basis almost, when Chelsea was merely a upper midtable english club and Real Madrid were considered "lucky" to win CL against Juventus in the late 90s, when italian clubs were so dominant, first with AC Milan in the late 80s/early 90s, Juventus mid/late.
Makes me think what comes after Barcelona and to a lesser extent Madrid?
German clubs. The Bundesliga is no doubt better than Serie A at this point and those teams just keep getting better and better by leaps and bounds. The Germans have been taking massive strides to catch up with the English/Spanish leagues for a while now, and it is really starting to show beyond just Bayern. It may not happen immediately but I see it happening in the (relatively) near future.
That said, the Spanish will probably dominate European competition for a couple years still (ugh.....).
On April 06 2012 23:34 Tyree wrote: If you look at results of old tournaments you could make a case that major football clubs from the "big" 3 (Spain, Italy and England) all follow a cyclical form curve. Couple years ago the english clubs were dominant, now the spanish clubs are, and some years back it was italian clubs.
I mean there was a time when Barcelona were total ass, switching managers on a daily basis almost, when Chelsea was merely a upper midtable english club and Real Madrid were considered "lucky" to win CL against Juventus in the late 90s, when italian clubs were so dominant, first with AC Milan in the late 80s/early 90s, Juventus mid/late.
Makes me think what comes after Barcelona and to a lesser extent Madrid?
German clubs. The Bundesliga is no doubt better than Serie A at this point and those teams just keep getting better and better by leaps and bounds. The Germans have been taking massive strides to catch up with the English/Spanish leagues for a while now, and it is really starting to show beyond just Bayern. It may not happen immediately but I see it happening in the (relatively) near future.
That said, the Spanish will probably dominate European competition for a couple years still (ugh.....).
The French will come up and the mighty PSG will destroy all european competition for years to come. only in fm...
I hope that Chelsea is going to win Champions League even if it is very unlikely, they need a spot in CL atleast (you probably figured out I am a chelsea fan by now...). They're keeping the flag up for England out in europe at the moment.
EPT
Normally my football knowledge is very good so I'd be able to answer this question, but I'm drunk as fuck, so I'm not a very reliable source. However, my guess would be he'd be the first. 
