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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 12 2005 15:03 GMT
#181
keke, nub... if you have four expos, jesus, you should have like more than twelve facts easily. and not all of them need to be machine shop'ed.

TvT, just expo more and get more geysers to balance resources. don't worry about losing the CC, lift off if they attack you without gols and then run your scvs away if you can. and hotkey facts to spend resources while you drop tanks or lay mines.
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 12 2005 15:06 GMT
#182
Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.

Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 12 2005 15:07 GMT
#183
and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 12 2005 15:07 GMT
#184
Yeah like NeoIllusions said, hotkey your CC's/main building so you can constantly produce SCVs or whatever miners your race has. That's totally crucial.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-12 15:08:44
March 12 2005 15:08 GMT
#185
On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away


Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 12 2005 15:09 GMT
#186
I wonder how it would be to have a TL.net WarCraft 3 Player's StarCraft Tournament?
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 12 2005 15:11 GMT
#187
On March 13 2005 00:06 Orlandu wrote:
Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.

Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have.


and to build off of this, some pros hotkey a shitload of gateways/fact/hatches from like 5-0 but i think the average player and pull off the double-tap on just a fact on 5 and then go around clicking the neighboring facts around the '5' fact. don't worry so much about losing your army of the moment as long as you have good econ and macro to replace all your lost units. i know that losing your entire army in TFT is basically gG in most cases but it's different for BW. I usually have six to eight gates up alone, off of a main and a natural on Lotem. So you can easily get more than eight facts if you have four expos.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 12 2005 15:12 GMT
#188
On March 13 2005 00:08 Orlandu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away


Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread.


You don't need a Nazgul or Eriador to answer Aether's type of questions.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 12 2005 15:14 GMT
#189
On March 13 2005 00:09 Orlandu wrote:
I wonder how it would be to have a TL.net WarCraft 3 Player's StarCraft Tournament?


you can organize it, keke
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Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 12 2005 15:14 GMT
#190
On March 13 2005 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2005 00:08 Orlandu wrote:
On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away


Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread.


You don't need a Nazgul or Eriador to answer Aether's type of questions.


True, but the wiser the person answering, the better off you're going to be. But either way, yeah I don't mind discussing Brood War at all. Us War3 players know how to discuss games other than what we play full time =]
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 12 2005 15:15 GMT
#191
On March 13 2005 00:11 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2005 00:06 Orlandu wrote:
Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.

Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have.


and to build off of this, some pros hotkey a shitload of gateways/fact/hatches from like 5-0 but i think the average player and pull off the double-tap on just a fact on 5 and then go around clicking the neighboring facts around the '5' fact. don't worry so much about losing your army of the moment as long as you have good econ and macro to replace all your lost units. i know that losing your entire army in TFT is basically gG in most cases but it's different for BW. I usually have six to eight gates up alone, off of a main and a natural on Lotem. So you can easily get more than eight facts if you have four expos.


Yeah, totally agreed.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-13 01:22:19
March 13 2005 01:20 GMT
#192
I haven't played BW in a long, long time... I played it casually with my friends (well, we did play a lot) back when we were in like grade 8. I liked to of thought myself half-decent back then, but who knows T_T

If we had a tourny I'd have to practice for like a month before I'd be used to the much, MUCH faster gameplay.

Edit:

Aether: Sorry I couldn't PM you a time last night, I ended up being afk whole night... Is Tuesday good for you? Anytime after 1:30 PM EST is good for me, just give me a time.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17851 Posts
March 13 2005 02:40 GMT
#193
Hehehehe, I want TL.net W3 players to play BW tournament and BW players to play W3 tournament
This could be so much fun! Of course first both types of players would have some time to fasmiliarize themselves with the game (eg. splitting everyone into 2 player teams - one guy from BW, one from W3 so one could teach the other some basics of the game his better at). What do you think? ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
March 13 2005 02:55 GMT
#194
lol i think i'm doing exactly what you're saying, not looking away from battle to macro because i'm afraid i'll lose the game straight up in 1 battle. guess i gotta ignore micro bit more :DD
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uidf
Profile Joined April 2004
Seychelles370 Posts
March 13 2005 03:54 GMT
#195
yea macro is alot more important in bw that in war3 =(

and nice game3 on lt earlier today aether
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
March 13 2005 04:33 GMT
#196
Arggg! Hurry up and finish these games! I want revenge!
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
March 13 2005 04:37 GMT
#197
On March 13 2005 11:40 Manit0u wrote:
Hehehehe, I want TL.net W3 players to play BW tournament and BW players to play W3 tournament
This could be so much fun! Of course first both types of players would have some time to fasmiliarize themselves with the game (eg. splitting everyone into 2 player teams - one guy from BW, one from W3 so one could teach the other some basics of the game his better at). What do you think? ^^


What if you're kind of in between? I played Warcraft 3 for about 2 years starting from ROC beta but then stopped completely after 1.14 and then picked up Starcraft which I played until a few months ago. I'm technically more of a W3 player than a BW player but I've been out of touch with W3 so long that I might as well be a BW player trying to play W3
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17851 Posts
March 13 2005 04:40 GMT
#198
Anyone on bnet now? Cuz I'm gonna enter hoping for some games ^^
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
March 13 2005 04:41 GMT
#199
Just as an unofficial update, I defeated Ghardo 3:0 Friday in the tournament. Whoever my next opponent happens to be, either Wawer or Anti, I'll be available Monday/Tuesday night, and probably Wednesday night. Wednesday I'm planning to head north to Detroit to spend a few days there with friends so I won't be available during the day. Thursday however is my birthday, and since I turn 19 they were planning to take me to Canada sometime to celebrate, maybe Friday night though. But we'll be lanning most of the time I'm there, so I'm free pretty much most of the time until Sunday.

So I guess we'll try to work around that or something.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
March 13 2005 04:59 GMT
#200
yea i can probably play tuesday night solesteeler~
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