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FINAL PLAYOFFS :
Akutsu 3 Rotanimod 0 Akutsu 3
Liquid.t0u 0 SoleSteeler 3 SoleSteeler 0
Ghardo KingOrlandu
n0obintraining/fiZr WaweR
The following people are banned for various reasons from the next tournament:
-Greysleep for not playing most of his games and not mentioning anything to me. -Hakke.64 for all around ignoring of everything.
Everyone else said something or played games. Good luck in the playoffs.
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March 05 20:53-Almost 100% edit: wawer > rotanimod 2:0 wawer > greywind
Quick note before I whip out final stats - playoff games are to be organized the same way as divisional play and played the same as well. EXCEPT for three things: these games are best of 5, not three; first map is Gnoll Wood - then you choose from the same map pool as before - plus Echo Islands.
Also there is somewhat of a schedule to make it easier to obs. 8pm est every night until Tuesday night (it being the last night) will be a time to meet for everyone to be able to meet and obs games. If this is the way you can complete your game PM me and leave a message in the thread for everyone stating what day you will be playing your opponent so people can watch. The other option: if you and your opponent can not meet from ~8-9pm est in the next 3 nights PM me letting me know when you will play. YOU MUST PM ME letting me know that you and your opponent have had contact and what's going on.
Okay some of the games over the past couple of nights went as follows: Ghardo > fiat 2:0 Ghardo > DuR 2:0 Ghardo < aktusu 0:2 fiat < aktusu 0:2 WaweR > Doggies 2:0
Everything but Group A is fully resolved because all others who haven't played a game are mathematically eliminated. Group A looks like this:
Group A- RoTaNiMoD(RoTaNiMoD) - 2/1(4/2)* WaweR(WaweR) 2-0(4/0) Greywind(Daysleeper) -0/1 (0/2) Doggies(uidf) - 0/2(0/4)
I believe these are the right ones. Because of this the WaweR vs Daysleeper game will be extended until MONDAY afternoon - 5pm EST. Please play your game before that, though.
So the following list made it into the final tournament (with seeds next to them):
1- Akutsu 2- n0obintraining/fiZr 3- KingOrlandu 4- SoleSteeler 5- Liquid.t0u 6- Ghardo 7- RoTaNiMoD 8- WaweR/Greywind
Making the games:
Akutsu WaweR/Greywind
Liquid.t0u SoleSteeler
Ghardo KingOrlandu
n0obintraining/fiZr RoTaNiMoD
Predictions: Akutsu in 3 games for obvious reasons. SoleSteeler in 4 because I think he was in an arguably better division and came away with the same record. KingOrlandu in 5 is the biggest guess of a choice - because Ghardo's only losses came to Akutsu, but I think overall Orlando's been in a more competitive division which may help him come playoffs. Of course then there's the fact that I've never seen Ghardo play.. And fizr in 4 for the last match. RoTaNiMoD's good but he's not as seasoned in TFT as fizr is. If he had began earlier this series may have been different.
The almost final standings are:
Group A- RoTaNiMoD(RoTaNiMoD) - 2/1(4/2)* WaweR(WaweR) 2-0(4/0) Greywind(Daysleeper) -0/1 (0/2) Doggies(uidf) - 0/2(0/4)
Group B- KingOrlandu(Orlandu) - 3/0(6/1) +* SoleSteeler(SoleSteeler)- 2/1(5/2) + myLonelyCowboy(analogkensho)- 1/2(2/4) imp0ster(Locked)- 0/3(0/6)
Group C- n0obintraining/fiZr(anti) - 3/0(6/0) *+ Liquid.t0u(Manit0u) -2/1(4/2) + Ssregine(SoLaR[i.C]) - 1/2(2/4) playterran(choboPEon) - 0/3(0/6)
Group D- Akutsu(requiem) - 3/0(6/0)+* Ghardo(Ghardo) -2-1 (4/2)+ Fiat(Make7UpYours) -0/2(0/4) DuR(Grass.nS)) -0/2(0/4)
Good luck. ---------- March 02 19:40-Division done, possible new player..
Division C finished up as t0u defeated playterran 2:0 (TM,TR). This secures t0u 2nd place in his division and a spot in the final tournament. RoTaNiMoD defeated greywind 2:0 as well (TM,LT).
If you haven't played a game and still plan on participating you need to contact me soon - within 24 hours. If you haven't played and have an exscuse you should contact me as well - or just don't play in the next few tournaments. We have replacements who want to play and are on waiting (namely WaweR, former captain of Team Poland).
Also, if you still want to play and did not make it originally we may be eliminating a few people, so PM the registration information. That is if you think you can get the games done by Saturday! We'll take as many as we can.
ALSO- if you've only played one game and are still looking to participate PM me! I need to know you guys are still here.
----------- March 01 19:55-On we go..
Group B got a huge amount of games done tonight:
Solesteeler defeated myLonelyCowboy 2:0(TM, TR) and imp0ster 2:0 (TM,TR). In the first 2:1 series during divisional play he was defeated by Orlandu 2:1 - Losing on TM as NEvH, winning on LT as H versus Orlandu's random Human and losing on TR in an NEvNE. Orlandu then defeated myLonelyCowboy 2:0 (TM,TR).
All these games minus a few were 1.17, so even though I hear of a couple of good games they aren't watchable. It's better that 1.18 came out now than later though, the best games are yet to come.
----------- February 28 18:57-One series down
The first match in group b was played tonight - MyLonelyCowboy defeated imp0ster 2:0 on TM and LT.
Every series so far has been 2:0.
update: Orlandu also played imp0ster and defeated him 2:0 TM and TR.
----------- February 27 18:40-Updated scores.
Group C has completed all matches but one. Liquid.t0u was defeated by Fizr 2:0 (TM, GW) and defeated SSregine 2:0 (TM, TR). This locks the 1st place position up for Fizr and means second place for t0u with a victory over playterran.
A quick message to group A: hakke.64 is on Battle.net right now looking for one of you to play. Message him if he is still on when you log on.
To group B: start playing your games.
----------- February 26 22:44-Divisional play has started.
Group A complete one bo3 - RoTaNiMoD defeated Doggies 2:0 on Twisted Meadows and Plunder Isle for some reason - even though it's not in the map pool. In Group C Fizr defeated Ssregine 2:0 (TM and Turtle Rock) and playterran 2:0 (TM and Gnoll Wood) and Ssregine defeated playterran 2:0 (TM, Gnoll Wood).
Today was full of a lot of "Oh sweet jesus, Aether's in this?" comments - all well deserved. But I know there are atleast some people around here who can and will give him a good game or two.. so get playing.
Quick update: Speaking of which Aether wins his first series, eh, quickly. In 6 minutes versus DuR on TM. DuR conceded the second game.
----------- February 25 20:59 -And here we are. We have a perfectly round number of 16 for four groups of four. In this post I'll keep the standings updated and post whatever tournament related news needs to be posted. Be sure to look at the sign up thread if you have any questions on the format not answered in this thread.
The tournament will progress like this: All players will play the rest of their division once in a best of three series. The first game is on Twisted Meadows. From there the loser chooses the next game from the map pool of Lost Temple, Gnoll Wood and Turtle Rock. If needed the loser of the second game chooses a map from the same pool - but the same map cannot be played twice in a series.
Reporting the games is pretty simple. The most important part is to save every replay. After the series send me a report stating who won, races and maps ALONG WITH the replays as an attached file. Send them to apexcp@gmail.com with the subject of "Tournament Report". The replays are required because afterward we'll hopefully be making a replay pack of the tournament's best games -- So in the report you can recommend a particularly good game if it occurred. You have 1 week to report - From today, Saturday the 26th until next Saturday!
After all divisional games are played the top two in each division will advance to the final playoff tournament. The seedings will be based on win's and losses - Whenever two players are tied the tie will be broken by the amount of "real" losses they had (i.e. A series won 2-1 would have 1 "real" loss but would be counted as a win overall.) If there is still a tie there will be a tiebreaker series (with all previous rules applying) for the higher seed.
To contact an opposing player you can use the PM system or B.net. Below are the Azeroth ID's of all players followed by the TL.net names of all players in parentheses. If you have trouble contacting them within a short time PM me and I'll give you the e-mail address they supplied.
DIVISIONS
Group A- RoTaNiMoD(RoTaNiMoD) - 2/1(4/2)* WaweR(WaweR) 2-0(4/0) Greywind(Daysleeper) -0/1 (0/2) Doggies(uidf) - 0/2(0/4)
Group B- KingOrlandu(Orlandu) - 3/0(6/1) +* SoleSteeler(SoleSteeler)- 2/1(5/2) + myLonelyCowboy(analogkensho)- 1/2(2/4) imp0ster(Locked)- 0/3(0/6)
Group C- n0obintraining/fiZr(anti) - 3/0(6/0) *+ Liquid.t0u(Manit0u) -2/1(4/2) + Ssregine(SoLaR[i.C]) - 1/2(2/4) playterran(choboPEon) - 0/3(0/6)
Group D- Akutsu(requiem) - 3/0(6/0)+* Ghardo(Ghardo) -2-1 (4/2)+ Fiat(Make7UpYours) -0/2(0/4) DuR(Grass.nS)) -0/2(0/4)
* - Division Winner + - Qualifies for Final Tournament
Hopefully we can make tournaments a habit.
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For anyone in my group - I'm available every night from 8pm EST until around 2am EST Sunday-Thursday, and most of Friday. If any of those times are inconvenient, let me know and we'll try to work something out.
PM me or e-mail me at laxjericho at hotmail dot com to set up a match.
EDIT: Or if anyone just wants to play some showmatches or something, PM me or e-mail me too.
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i'll be on most of this saturday & sunday (and right now) so just msg on me on bnet/PM me to play ..
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so we have to play all the people in our groups by next week right?
yeah btw I should be on most of this weekend but Im not too sure of my scheduale for mon-fri
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ill be home this sunday, i can play pretty much anytime this week, not a very busy week i don't think....
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On February 25 2005 21:27 Anti wrote: so we have to play all the people in our groups by next week right?
yes
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If anyone would like to play against me pls pm me stating when you're available and I adjust to that (I'm used to stay awake at crazy hours and you might not be so it'll be easier if you pick the date and time).
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by the way i've gotten a few people who still want to join - if this goes well we'll have another and you can join then. I stopped taking people because we had a nice round number at 16, and it seemed high enough for the first one.
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We can always use these other people as subs if someone can't get their games in or something - it's always aggrivating when that one guy gets byes all the way to the semi-finals...
BTW PMs are sent to everyone in my group, I apologize for many of them being blank, but apparently I am incapable of remember that hitting enter in the subject line sends the message. Go me, if that's any indication of my intelligence I should bomb straight out of this tourney.
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lol, this seems to be really unfair with aether participating^^
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ahaha i'm in one group with aether ^^ ... ... uhm, I should act a bit more frightening .. be prepared to go down YO !!11
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anyone in usa on right now w/ hosting capabilities, get on azeroth and msg akutsu thx!
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there's an update on yesterday's games.
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Today was full of a lot of "Oh sweet jesus, Aether's in this?" comments
hahahaha, mTw-Aether fighting! Btw, my bad about checking PMs so late. I'll host for you next time.
Edit:
Quick update: Speaking of which Aether wins his first series, eh, quickly. In 6 minutes.
Must've been ghouls and that pale faced imba of an UD hero. keke --
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illusions why didnt you try to sing up for this? me and orlandu expected you ;o
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Cause I didn't check your thread in time. -.-;; And I have two midterms this Monday alone as well as some internship stuff I need to deal with Mon and Wed. I'll be sure to sign up for the next one you host. Greets to you and Orlandu.
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ah okay, that's a good exscuse
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On February 26 2005 22:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Must've been ghouls and that pale faced imba of an UD hero. keke --
he was ne O_O
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On February 26 2005 23:10 choboPEon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2005 22:57 NeoIllusions wrote:
Must've been ghouls and that pale faced imba of an UD hero. keke -- he was ne O_O
oh em gee, Aether imba where? chit user
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Wisps can't win games alone. What hero did he use?
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you're right. seawitch/wisp imbalance. I haven't actually watched the replay yet. I'll go do that now.
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dh/seawitch plus about 3 hunts against firelord and 6 archers is what happened.
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Tee hee fast tech owns. I was to play some of my games too but unfortunately some irl event occured that prevented me to do so. I will be at bnet today about the same time as yesterday however (and hopefully I will defeat fiZer so it'll be 1-1 now )
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aether fighting .. I'm screwed
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To Demonic/Hakke.64 and Greywind/Daysleeper, I'm on War3 RoC every now and then slumming it up and messing around. I /f added you guys so if I see you on I'll give you a holla. Other than that I'm an 18 year old slacker so I can play basically whenever. If you can play whenever let's set up a time, if you have restrictions then PM me then so we can also...set up a time!
Word!!!!!
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another quick update - first division winner.
February 27 18:40-Updated scores.
Group C has completed all matches but one. Liquid.t0u was defeated by Fizr 2:0 (TM, GW) and defeated SSregine 2:0 (TM, TR). This locks the 1st place position up for Fizr and means second place for t0u with a victory over playterran.
A quick message to group A: hakke.64 is on Battle.net right now looking for one of you to play. Message him if he is still on when you log on.
To group B: start playing your games.
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On February 27 2005 18:42 choboPEon wrote:another quick update - first division winner. Show nested quote + February 27 18:40-Updated scores.
Group C has completed all matches but one. Liquid.t0u was defeated by Fizr 2:0 (TM, GW) and defeated SSregine 2:0 (TM, TR). This locks the 1st place position up for Fizr and means second place for t0u with a victory over playterran.
A quick message to group A: hakke.64 is on Battle.net right now looking for one of you to play. Message him if he is still on when you log on.
To group B: start playing your games.
we've got them scheduled.... im playing 2 (or 3?) of mine tuesday night
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oh. good good, just wanted to make sure.
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C'mon ppl, start playing chobo - hope we can meet soon
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Can I play ? =] Maybe some1 resigned to play or is inactive so I could play on his place ?
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wawer - i'll tell you if someone has and if no one does you can play next time.
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This is turning out pretty nicely.
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Yeah, in the past when I've been involved with tourneys in this format people always slack about and half the games don't get played. Good to see some hustle from people.
Think me and Locked(Imp0ster) are gonna try and get our games on tonite, but I haven't heard back from him on an exact time. Obs will be welcome I'm sure.
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As soon as this is done, we better make another. I want revenge. >
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I can be around tonight to play with Locked too. I have 2 mid-terms tomorrow but I'm awful about studying and the only one I'm worried about is at night anyway so I'm sure I'll be around.
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I'm sitting in chan AFK while reading Hegel - please someone come give me an excuse to stop reading Hegel.
I'll be on and off for a few hours at least - I'll need to actually leave my apartment at some point tonite, but anyone who wants some gamage come on in and start spammin' - I should notice and return to the keyboard within a couple minutes.
EDIT: Games with Imp0ster done, will send reps now. I'll be on for a bit yet, but might go out after 8 EST... depends on the weather, it's shitty here =_=
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where're the reps?
and wehre do you live? i was supposed to get off from school if it snowed enough here but it wasnt near enough, so im pissed.
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might snow enough for tuesday
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Oh whoa, it's not done snowing. keep home alive
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lucky me I guess, it snowed late wednesday night last week so we didnt have thurs or friday and now we had a storm today which made cancelations again and more then likely we'll also be off tomorrow! woosh....
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lol i got worked over against analog
i predict going 0-3 (0-6 in games) in my group while having lots of fun 
edit: fucking worked vs orlandu too haha
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imp0ster, of course we'll have the same record :D
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jeff should be barred from this puhharhar
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On February 28 2005 16:43 choboPEon wrote: and wehre do you live? i was supposed to get off from school if it snowed enough here but it wasnt near enough, so im pissed.
Heheh I'm about an hour west of Chicago. It was disgusting but didn't really snow much, just an inch or two...
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1. Analog: Hegel is ok :D
2. Doesn't matter if you win or lose, fun is the most important thing here :D
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This is actually really really really really (etcetera) fun!
I had never liked TFT cuz it's so hard to get used to from my RoC background but I think I'm gonna start laddering and stuff. Plus people are really playing each other and contacting each other and such it's sweetage meatballs.
Though, it WAS mildly embarassing to play on a snowy LT with weird creeps, and to have to ask what my opponent's Firelord was. But I got over it.
<3 =]
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there's a tavern on LT FT now? :/
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No, those anecdotes were from two different games, each with their own unique moments where I realized how shit-little I knew about TFT.
Guess I didn't make that clear heh.
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Oops? Were we supposed to play on TFT temple? I assumed we were using the old RoC one since no one I know of plays on snow temple willingly...
It's amazing what having a community does for patience with learning a game, though. I had the same experience with BW and the group of people that tought me how to play.
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dont think it matters what temple
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Ice Temple sucks, thats why its only used in 2s
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Oh crap, I just assumed we would use the TFT temple. I have no idea what's standard. If given the choice again I would much rather the RoC one too....
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Those spider things are so gay.
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arent they identical temples minus the tileset and creeps
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I thought ice temple was larger and thus led to mass creeping... I dunno, I only played it like once, it was out of ladder rotation pretty soon after I bought TFT
Oh yeah, got owned 2:0 by SoulSteeler - reps just sent. It was fun ^_^
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we're supposed to play RoC temple but I didn't specify so it's okay.
tbh I don't know all the differences between the two either, does anyone? theyre not identical though, i dont think.
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just got owned (well 2:1) by orlandu hate NE 
went HU vs NE on TM, i lose HU vs rHU on temple, i win NE vs NE on TR, he win
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analog - check your pms, email didn't work.
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B is the first group completely done - and C has one more game.
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Edit to the last update. The last game between me and SoleSteeler was Ne vs Ne.
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chobo did you get my email? i played greywind today
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Ok, I stop drinking now so hopefully will be able to play my last match :D I really tried to play those games yesterday and the day before but after like 8-9 beers it would be suicide
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its too bad some of the replays wont be usable anymore with the new patch, hope the games werent "that" good ^^
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Not much time and still some games to play. I wonder if it'll all work out :/
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March 02 19:40-Division done, possible new player..
Division C finished up as t0u defeated playterran 2:0 (TM,TR). This secures t0u 2nd place in his division and a spot in the final tournament. RoTaNiMoD defeated greywind 2:0 as well (TM,LT).
If you haven't played a game and still plan on participating you need to contact me soon - within 24 hours. If you haven't played and have an exscuse you should contact me as well - or just don't play in the next few tournaments. We have replacements who want to play and are on waiting (namely WaweR, former captain of Team Poland).
Also, if you still want to play and did not make it originally we may be eliminating a few people, so PM the registration information. That is if you think you can get the games done by Saturday! We'll take as many as we can.
ALSO- if you've only played one game and are still looking to participate PM me! I need to know you guys are still here.
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I'm still in it!! I sent my PM!!
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Thanks for all the games guys, it was really entertaining.
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Mani fighting! They were fun games to watch!
It would be great if we could set up public times for the final tourney so people could try to get in and obs, but it would be more inconvenient for the players, plus we'd have to all be manner and leave if we were lagging and such... what does everyone think?
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Yup analogkensho, obsing Mani and talking to you was fun ^_^ looking forward to some games with TL crew in few hours =]
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Yeah, making some tournamet dates more official would be nice. Having all those ppl obsing ur games and having fun alltogether Just like our pre-tourney test meetings.
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I will never reinstall WC3 again (lasted about 10 minutes), but I just wanted to say that it is great to see you guys organizing yourselves and getting this going looks like it is a good time thus far.
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If you could only know the power of the dark side...
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On March 03 2005 14:15 Manifesto7 wrote: I will never reinstall WC3 again (lasted about 10 minutes)....
The other Mani makes his appearance!
Yeah, it's going unusually well for an ad hoc tourney set up on the fly. Hopefully with people like Wawer, SoleSteeler, and Aether playing, we can get some more gosus to come and participate in the community here. Good of you to drop by!
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Sure it would be nice to have more ppl there but for now I just hope that everyone will be able to complete their matches in time since it's running low.
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2 days left for first divisions 0.o [edit] I hope everyone thats playing knows about the change in twisted meadows, with the goblin shops in the middle. Blizzard took out the priest and added some lvl 6 troll something and two trappers also, lol would have been nice of them to mention it in the patch text, but whatever.
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i think next tourney would be better if we have the group stages over two weekends so people like me and greywind can play vs each other since we live across the world from each other =(
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Just saw WaWeR was subbed in. Who did he replace?
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uidf times until tomorrow night so play saturday.
he replaced ghardo i think.
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Hopefully WaweR (and everyone else for that matter) can finish their games.
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I have spoken to WaweR today, he's willing to play as many of his games as possible tonight/tomorrow. His clan is in the middle of MCL games though and he's in the lineup there along with bogoos and I dunno if it won't collide for him. Gotta ask
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About the change on TM: Yeah, the change was rather unexpected but good, it's easier to creep this shops now imo (one troll leader + 2 small trappers insted of one big priest + 2 big berserkers) I may be wrong however.
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On March 04 2005 12:08 Manit0u wrote:I have spoken to WaweR today, he's willing to play as many of his games as possible tonight/tomorrow. His clan is in the middle of MCL games though and he's in the lineup there along with bogoos and I dunno if it won't collide for him. Gotta ask 
Yeah I noticed that, he's gonna have quite a bit of important matches to play within a short period of time. But that's cool that he's willing to.
Good luck to WaweR and Bogos in MCL.
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On March 04 2005 11:56 choboPEon wrote: uidf times until tomorrow night so play saturday.
he replaced ghardo i think.
why did he replace me ? i wanted to play my games this evening because last the week i've been kinda busy. ...
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you probably should have said something when i told you to then, eh? but now that you have i'll bring you back and put him somewhere else.
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On March 04 2005 12:11 Manit0u wrote:About the change on TM: Yeah, the change was rather unexpected but good, it's easier to creep this shops now imo (one troll leader + 2 small trappers insted of one big priest + 2 big berserkers)  I may be wrong however. its more difficult now, and pretty much stops really early game good item grabs from there since you need a bit of an army to take them on now
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yeah but my ghouls don't die there now in such masses :D
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On March 04 2005 13:31 choboPEon wrote: you probably should have said something when i told you to then, eh? but now that you have i'll bring you back and put him somewhere else.
thx then ... didn't notice that post with "sent me pm within 24 hours".
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Rotanimod can you answer me on bn ? I`m spaming you for 15 mins We have to play our games today... ;P
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just keep whispering him it took me about 20 mins to get through to him heh
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if you have trouble playing your games today and you have games left to play PM ME or email me! I'll work it out and let you know what's going on.
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Here we are at the last (or my calculations are wrong) day of the tournamet I'll be in the channel to see some games and provide a host if anyone would need it.
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whew we barely finished our games on time
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i didnt get to finish mine because greywind couldnt come on tonight other than that im done
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theres the update : play your games.
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LaxJericho: ah wow that sucks, probably aether vs wawer first round apex ltc: yes it does suck, but honestly i couldnt give wawer a higher seed and aether wasn't getting a lower one, so.. LaxJericho: well, if wawer gets 1st in his group, shouldnt he be 3rd seed (since i actually lost a game, and assuming he doesn't he would mathematically be higher than me)? LaxJericho: or rotanimod for that matter apex ltc: its not that im saying the standings cant change. they will change, but i want to get the games started apex ltc: so apex ltc: i just put him at the bottom LaxJericho: wait, so, you're saying those seeds will change? apex ltc: i'm saying mathematically they will but thats what they are for this tournament apex ltc: i want to get things started apex ltc: so apex ltc: its final LaxJericho: ahhh ok
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Sorry Wawer, that was weird. Whenever you were on last night I was afk or not on...and vice versa.
Anti, I am a bum who doesn't really have any commitments, so whenever you wanna play the series works by me. If you are also free any time, I propose Sunday at 8 EST. If that doesn't work, gimme pretty much any time and that'll be cool.
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are you here now ?! I am ;o
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*yawn* I cant believe im still awake =/ But I should be able to play tomorrow night, in fact most of tomorrow in general, but maybe we can have the games a little earlier, say 6'ish? By 8 somone im expecting would be getting back home and we have some stuff to take care of after that so...
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Ok, I found RoTaNiMoD and we are going to play our games now ^^.
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WaweR destroyed me in game one, and it looked like I was winning in game two until he had 8,000 units out of nowhere and I died.
Since we got the games done would it be a hassle for WaweR and us to switch who we play as far as seeding? Cuz I think that I'm going to lose wehther I play anti or requiem, might as well give WaweR a better chance =]
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Shit, I thought seeding bracket is wrong, but it`s ok Anyway, I wonder why we use those seedings when we don`t really know skill level of our finalists ? Shouldn't it look like (if i remember good)1A vs 2B 2C vs 1D and so on ?
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argh .. why do i get orlandu ? gimme t0u instead
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You underestimate the power of the dark side.
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meh i think the aether wawer series will be good wawer from what ive seen him play isnt too bad but i still think aether will take it in 3-4 depending on what races he plays.
bleh i dunno who between solesteeler/t0u because ive never seen solesteeler play before.
im gonna go with orlandu over ghardo because i just think orlandu is better im gonna say thins goes to 4 games though(no disrespect ghardo :D)
and yea ill go fizr over rotanimod just cause fizr plays more tft than rotanimod does.
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This little tournament might actually convince me to play TFT again...
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On March 06 2005 01:58 WaweR wrote:Shit, I thought seeding bracket is wrong, but it`s ok Anyway, I wonder why we use those seedings when we don`t really know skill level of our finalists ? Shouldn't it look like (if i remember good)1A vs 2B 2C vs 1D and so on ?
this doesn't really have an effect on the division. you have to play daysleeper to eliminate him.
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to Liquid.tou: i cannot play tonight (sunday), i cannot play monday night, i can play all day tuesday... so anytime after 1 PM EST when you want to play i'm up for it...
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I dunno what time is EST but I'll be on bnet from about noon tl.net time. If that's ok with you then we are all set
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EST time is 6 hours behind CET time
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Isn't tl.net time pacific? So 1 EST should be 10 Tl.net time, right?
Oh yeah, Can't wait to see some of these playoffs! No predictions, though, I want to be able to suck up to whoever wins later. ^_^
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anyone else getting bombarded by lag on azeroth?
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I won't be able to play at 8 tonight, but I can play at 8 tomorrow or Tuesday, or between 3:45 - 5:30 EST on Tuesday.
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i would be fine with tuesday 3:45 ... much later is hard for me because i'm having exams atm and need some rest :O
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I figured 8 might be hard for you since you're in Germany and that's like 2AM there. I could possibly play it earlier tomorrow, but I have somewhere I have to be from 4-8, so if we need to that option is there, but I guess for now let's count on Tuesday at 3:45?
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anti: today me and magni got some serious lag (like 1-2 sec) for a while. Once I even got disced but I thought it's because we're playing from Europe...
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i had a lil bit of lag in the beggining of a game or two
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thats the persistent azeroth useast lag, its been going on for a looong time now, hopefully it wont be like that for people that play their games
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On March 06 2005 15:52 Orlandu wrote: I figured 8 might be hard for you since you're in Germany and that's like 2AM there. I could possibly play it earlier tomorrow, but I have somewhere I have to be from 4-8, so if we need to that option is there, but I guess for now let's count on Tuesday at 3:45?
let's count on that.
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On March 06 2005 01:38 RoTaNiMoD wrote: WaweR destroyed me in game one, and it looked like I was winning in game two until he had 8,000 units out of nowhere and I died.
Since we got the games done would it be a hassle for WaweR and us to switch who we play as far as seeding? Cuz I think that I'm going to lose wehther I play anti or requiem, might as well give WaweR a better chance =]
What`s up with play-offs bracket/seedings ?
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i said: you joined late and when, on saturday night, i was setting up seeds you still weren't done. So I just put you on the bottom so other people could know who they were playing.
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So can`t you switch me and RotaNiMoD as he proposed after I beat him ? ^^ It`s np for Requiem and FizR i guess & hope
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damn, the most expected match goes away for now :/
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so my predictions are
Akutsu 3:0 Rotanimod
Liquid.t0u SoleSteeler3:1
Ghardo KingOrlandu3:1
n0obintraining/fiZr WaweR 3:1
what about you guys? don't be afraid =p
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Lucker! You could've seen all teh reps! I don't even know what race sole plays TT If he's an elf I'm going to kill you for giving him to me
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I haven't watched most of the reps because no ones reccommended any games to me and no ones objected to a game.
its been too smooth for me to care about all these 2:0's
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yeah, hopefully in the finals or during next tour we all learn a bit and matches will be less one-sided
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will anyone show up @ # tl.net today? i'll get bored to death sitting there all alone
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Hey Quesiton, how good are these people relatively speaking? I am so noob to W3 but just picked it up cuz SC is fun but I just want a break...
Also a good place to learn W3? Recommended players to watch? Any info? Would these reps be good?
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come hang out with us in the channel most of us arent very good but people like wawer and aether and orlandu are prob top tier of us that come to tl.net on azeroth. i think playing and watching reps of people like us would help better than watching reps of moon and them because there strats require timing and all that that you dont really have when you first start out.
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www.wcreplays.com is a good place to go for replays. As for learning how to play just play on the bnet ladder. The AMM makes finding games really easy and the ladders are still competitive so you'll be able to learn the game at a good pace.
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yeah, but hanging out with us on the channel could help you too :D you will meet some people, ask any questions you might have etc.
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to SoleSteeler: I'm on # tl.net on bnet now, will be waiting for you there for a couple of hours. I may be playing some ladder games though so just add me to ur fl and you can see if i'm on
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Well, the tournament for me is over. Thanks for the games Sole, hope to meet you in the next tour  Keep it up guys
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Game 1:
SoleSteeler (HU) at 7 o'clock vs. Manit0u (UD) at 4 o'clock on Gnoll Wood
I scouted in a clock wise fashion I scouted his position second last, when I found him I immediately attacked with a level 2.5 AM, 8 or so footmen. He had DK/ghouls and we had a nice little skirmish, I only lost 1 footmen I believe (but like 8 injured that I sent home) and I killed 3-4 ghouls. I went back to my main and trained a MK, started making riflemen and an arcane sanctum. I healed up and crept the natural expo in the mid-top-leftish area and expo'd, also teched to castle somewhere around now...
I creeped a few more spots and power leveled (didn't xp with my AM) my MK at the middle, merc camps etc. I think we skirmished a bit again. I added a bloodmage, and proceeded to attack with a rather large rifle/caster force (70ish food). He had some ghouls/aboms/statues/lich/DK. Nice micro from him, but my expo really gave me an advantage... Too bad he didn't scout it 
SoleSteeler 1-0 Manit0u
Game 2:
SoleSteeler (HU) at bottom right vs. Manit0u (HU) at top left on Twisted Meadows.
Usual build for me, our scouting peasants waved hello to each other at the top right position and I think we both concluded that we were in a cross map situation.
I had barely crept my first small camp when he came roaring in with a couple footmen/AM/WE. I had just begun creeping the 3 gnoll camp but luckily saw him and was able to turn a creep jack into a pincer attack of him between me and the creeps... A couple of his guys got purged so I was able to pick them off, he ran back to his main while I finished creeping the spot.
I then healed up a bit, trained a bloodmage and then militia expanded to my natural expo. (just north right of my position). Solo crept with BM to level him faster. I started my plan to go 3 arcane mass breakers with AoE, I crept the shop, forgot to buy a tome of retraining, started creeping the 3 gnolls just north of that (with just BM, this is the north east shop BTW).
My heroes split, he came into the shop area and started hammering away with a MK/AM and a lot of footies. He managed to kill my BM and a lot of my own footmen with book of the dead before i TP'd out.
He did a little bit of harrassing with his book of the dead while I continued to throw up 3 arcane sanctums and upgrading breaker armour... I crept the merc camp and then went to check if he had expo'd to the north west natural expo... He hadn't. By this time I had a LOT of breakers coming out (was sitting at no upkeep with expo for 5 mins so...) and so I attacked him. Dropping blizz/flamestrikes with mass breakers, all footmen were completely roasted within seconds (including my own). My superior upgrades helped a lot vs his own breakers, I killed his MK before he ran out. I followed him into his base and we duked it out some more, he ran his army around trying to stall for time so I dual nuked his own sanctums and destroyed them. He was soon overrun easily from my 3 producing buildings vs his none...
SoleSteeler 2-0 Manit0u:
SoleSteeler (HU) at top right vs. Manti0u (UD) at top left on Echo Isles.
Early in the game he came right for me and harrassed my peasants with coil/wand of necro, I did some poor creeping (I was being distracted by a cute girl who came into my room, no, seriously!) I had one footmen in red from creeping the 3 little troll trappers, which mani easily picked off.
He killed 3 or so militia and then ran out without losing anything but a few skeletons. We both creeped a few more spots, I added rifles and a panda for haze when I saw him going mainly fiends. I creep jacked him at the mid left fountain of health, but we suffered no losses. I then creeped bottom left expo and bottom right expo, and then we had another fight. My hero was trapped and died. I almost killed his lich but he a timely coil saved him.
I creeped the one or two spots that was left while throwing up an expo, reviving panda and adding more rifles/casters. I went to check bottom left for an expo, nothing. I went to harrass his main just as he came down to my building expo at btm right. Had to cancel it and lost 3 peasants ;(.
I think I forced him to tp somewhere around here, and went to check the bottom left again, still nothing. I began throwing up my expo again just as he waltzed into my main... I tp'd, fought him again, lost my hero I'm guessing. Might of killed one of his before chasing him out... Again, I check btm left... as he checks btm right, I think he was building an expo now, which I killed, he also killed my btm right.
this time I said to myself I'm gonna use 5 peasants to build my expo so I get it up ASAP, and I did. We fought some more, chased each other around the map. As I was killing his 2nd attempt at an expo he went down to mine and tried killing it, but I tp'd right ontop of his army and managed to do a lot of damage, panda died again though. At this time he's got a lot of fiends/aboms/statues. I was SO CLOSE to killing his DK, but couldn't do it... And I had a peasant at the tavern trying to tavern revive panda, but it didn't work (lag?). Wanted to intercept DK. At this time I had a lot of money rolling in, since I had at least had an expo running at certain times while he never had, so my gold mine ran out so I knew his must of, so I expo'd bottom right (had to kill his 3rd or 4th attempt at one again though first).
Somehow I killed his DK, i didn't even realize it... But I pressed his main, BoFing his workers that tried to repair altar etc. I had a couple mortars because he had towers. My 80/80 army slowly but surely took out the remainder of his force, and base. GG
SoleSteeler 3-0 Manit0u
NOTE: Games might not of been exactly as I remembered them
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Pretty good memory And the reports are cool imo, thx once more Sole
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yup, gg's, thought you mighta had me 3rd game for sure
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Well, when I stormed your expansion and you tp'ed in I thought the game is mine Obviously underestimating you for what I payed the highest price. My thoughts at this time:
1. Uah! Nicely stacked troops! Let's launch the nova! It worked well but unfortunately I missed mana for 1 more nova there. 2. I didn't pay attention to the troops there for a moment and later found my army obliterated. 3. You killed my dk right at the moment when he raised his sword to cast coil that would surely kill your am 
I think this was about the point when you've won the game ^^ GG's
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is everyone who hasnt played going to finish up? i hope so.
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Was going to aim you, but you weren't on so I haven't had a chance yet but, Ghardo sent me a PM saying we need to reschedule our match until Friday night (EST) if possible. That's fine by me, since I'll have my computer with me and can play this weekend, so if you're ok with it, I think that's when we're going to try to do it.
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alright - round 1 goes on until saturday night.
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we had some more fun games tonight !
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sorry requiem, how about same time as you posted that message tonight?
hopefully i can do something crafty and foolhardy that you've never seen before, and perhaps take a game in the series
HAR HAR
never mind, i'll just beat you straight up =]
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gah sorry I havent been in touch but I havent been near a computer lately. Anyhow this is my situation, at the moment I dont have a tft disk so I cant get online but I might hopefully have one by next week, soo hmm not sure how you want to handle that. PM me and you can tell me whats going on chobo. Sorry for this confusion
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ok so around 6? it should be alright
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anti we'll see how many games are done then.
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whups let's do it tomorrow then --;
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So how are the other games coming along? Still trying to work out my match with Ghardo since he had some last minute school issues come up, but have not heard back from him yet so hopefully today or tomorrow (since it's the deadline) we can get it done.
Luckily for me my spring break just started and I'm at home relaxing for a few days, and this time I brought my own computer with me.
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Aether gave me the expected 3-0, randoming all games. Game 1 was the decentest as I had a quasi-clue about what I was doing in that game.
On a happier note, the series (and Aether himself, really a good guy) motivated me rather a bit and I might start playing TFT a bit more.
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I'm upgrading/putting together my new computer today and tomorrow so I probably won't be on until atleast saturday late afternoon, probably night and possibly the next morning. I updated the playoff tree as far as I could but you guys can handle it if I'm not around for a day or so and keep track I'm sure.
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so i can play aether now if we're both ready?
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That should be a good series, wouldn't mind watching that one at all.
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yes you can solesteeler. send the report in to me, too, though.
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only way i could possibly take a map is if he randoms and gets NE on close spots and i tower rush him again
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I'll ventrilo cheat with you on Turtle Rock and you can fake discing until I reveal you're on close spots.
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Hi
I would like to apologize for not completing all my matches. Something came upp and I have been really straped for time lately. That being said I did pm both my opponent and chobopeon telling them I had to withdraw.
Anyway apologies once again and gl in the tournament
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you pm'd me the day the tournament was supposed to be over leaving me with no time to find a replacement. etc etc check your pm's.
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I obsed a buncha games in tl.net today, 't was fun <3
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aether for all these games your winning here you get 2:0'd by grubby? psh.
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yea cause after playing the gosu players like us in tl.net going to face someone like grubby whos so much behind us skill wise should be np 
keke
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Well, aether probably thought to himself on this occasion: I have beaten so many gosus on tl.net that there is nothing more I can achieve in WC3, let this noob have his win, he's still got something to play for.
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he plays grubby to warm up against us :p
and anyone on now?
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ill be on in a lil while till about 5 pm EST most likely if anyone wants to stop in and have a game
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omg! I need some help. My dvd refused to work (it opens and closes all the time without reading the cd's). Does anyone know where could I get no-cd crack for TFT 1.18? T_T
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nvm, got it from progamer.ru ^^ hopefully i know russian a bit 
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I'm on bnet now if anyone would like to play some games.
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totally OT but uh what happened on dire straits why is the mineral behind others and unreachable unless probe goe around -_- and what do you do with extra minerals in TvT i had 0 gas and 2k mins ok thanks :[
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Lol Aether, there's a Brood War AND a Strategy forum =]
Dire got changed in 1.12, and uh I think Blizzard is just retarded about that mineral thing. In TvT, you're gonna have lots of minerals regardless. You're going to want to expand like Rome of course, so that should help with gas, but regardless you're going to have tons of leftover minerals because of the mineral-to-gas income ratio as well as the bulk of your production units costing a bit of gas. Vultures can sometimes be good, but I wouldn't rely on them to do a whole lot of damage in TvT.
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i don't wanna use those forums cuz the q's might be too noob :D my macro blows some monkey, i mean i got like 4 expos but i couldn't keep up with my facts. everytime i did a drop and sieged some tanks laid some mines i had a shitload of mins when i got back to my base :O
maybe i should make more facs so i can spend it all faster when it stockpiles T_T
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After evanthebouncy or whoever that was, I think everyone totally changed their views on what stupid questions are.
I dunno how much many people in this section would be able to help though. I mean there's a lot of us who used to play Brood War and some of us were very good (I played in WCG and a lot of tournaments back in the day), but many of us have been inactive for a long time. I haven't played more than a few games for fun since WCG 2003 semi-finals. So unless someone who stills plays and is good happens to drop by, you might not get the best advice.
But oh well, Brood War is always fun to discuss. Especially since Puerto Rican recruited me as a GGL StarCraft referee, so I'd probably better start getting back into it some.
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keke, nub... if you have four expos, jesus, you should have like more than twelve facts easily. and not all of them need to be machine shop'ed.
TvT, just expo more and get more geysers to balance resources. don't worry about losing the CC, lift off if they attack you without gols and then run your scvs away if you can. and hotkey facts to spend resources while you drop tanks or lay mines.
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Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.
Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have.
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and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away
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Yeah like NeoIllusions said, hotkey your CC's/main building so you can constantly produce SCVs or whatever miners your race has. That's totally crucial.
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On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote: and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away
Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread.
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I wonder how it would be to have a TL.net WarCraft 3 Player's StarCraft Tournament?
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On March 13 2005 00:06 Orlandu wrote: Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.
Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have.
and to build off of this, some pros hotkey a shitload of gateways/fact/hatches from like 5-0 but i think the average player and pull off the double-tap on just a fact on 5 and then go around clicking the neighboring facts around the '5' fact. don't worry so much about losing your army of the moment as long as you have good econ and macro to replace all your lost units. i know that losing your entire army in TFT is basically gG in most cases but it's different for BW. I usually have six to eight gates up alone, off of a main and a natural on Lotem. So you can easily get more than eight facts if you have four expos.
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On March 13 2005 00:08 Orlandu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote: and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread.
You don't need a Nazgul or Eriador to answer Aether's type of questions.
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On March 13 2005 00:09 Orlandu wrote: I wonder how it would be to have a TL.net WarCraft 3 Player's StarCraft Tournament?
you can organize it, keke
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On March 13 2005 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2005 00:08 Orlandu wrote:On March 13 2005 00:07 NeoIllusions wrote: and i think it's fine that Aether posts BW questions in this thread. most people know who Aether is and would be happy to help him in BW without judging what kind of questions he's asking and calling him a noob. XD ask away Yeah no one's going to judge him, but you won't see Nazgul or Eriador frequenting this thread. You don't need a Nazgul or Eriador to answer Aether's type of questions. 
True, but the wiser the person answering, the better off you're going to be. But either way, yeah I don't mind discussing Brood War at all. Us War3 players know how to discuss games other than what we play full time =]
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On March 13 2005 00:11 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2005 00:06 Orlandu wrote: Macro was one thing I was always really really good at (and I still like to think I am even in War3 =] ). My best advice for that is to hotkey one of your main building structures and to constantly double-tap back to it every 15-20 seconds or so, even during battles. The micro isn't as intense as it is in War3, so missing a couple seconds to pump out some more units won't hurt you as much or in some cases end the game like it can in War3.
Oh, and if you still have extra money after pumping out some rounds of units, just build more Facs/Gateways/Hatcheries. 8+ is never a bad number to have. and to build off of this, some pros hotkey a shitload of gateways/fact/hatches from like 5-0 but i think the average player and pull off the double-tap on just a fact on 5 and then go around clicking the neighboring facts around the '5' fact. don't worry so much about losing your army of the moment as long as you have good econ and macro to replace all your lost units. i know that losing your entire army in TFT is basically gG in most cases but it's different for BW. I usually have six to eight gates up alone, off of a main and a natural on Lotem. So you can easily get more than eight facts if you have four expos.
Yeah, totally agreed.
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I haven't played BW in a long, long time... I played it casually with my friends (well, we did play a lot) back when we were in like grade 8. I liked to of thought myself half-decent back then, but who knows T_T
If we had a tourny I'd have to practice for like a month before I'd be used to the much, MUCH faster gameplay.
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Aether: Sorry I couldn't PM you a time last night, I ended up being afk whole night... Is Tuesday good for you? Anytime after 1:30 PM EST is good for me, just give me a time.
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Hehehehe, I want TL.net W3 players to play BW tournament and BW players to play W3 tournament  This could be so much fun! Of course first both types of players would have some time to fasmiliarize themselves with the game (eg. splitting everyone into 2 player teams - one guy from BW, one from W3 so one could teach the other some basics of the game his better at). What do you think? ^^
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lol i think i'm doing exactly what you're saying, not looking away from battle to macro because i'm afraid i'll lose the game straight up in 1 battle. guess i gotta ignore micro bit more :DD
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yea macro is alot more important in bw that in war3 =(
and nice game3 on lt earlier today aether
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Arggg! Hurry up and finish these games! I want revenge!
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On March 13 2005 11:40 Manit0u wrote:Hehehehe, I want TL.net W3 players to play BW tournament and BW players to play W3 tournament  This could be so much fun! Of course first both types of players would have some time to fasmiliarize themselves with the game (eg. splitting everyone into 2 player teams - one guy from BW, one from W3 so one could teach the other some basics of the game his better at). What do you think? ^^
What if you're kind of in between? I played Warcraft 3 for about 2 years starting from ROC beta but then stopped completely after 1.14 and then picked up Starcraft which I played until a few months ago. I'm technically more of a W3 player than a BW player but I've been out of touch with W3 so long that I might as well be a BW player trying to play W3
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Anyone on bnet now? Cuz I'm gonna enter hoping for some games ^^
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Just as an unofficial update, I defeated Ghardo 3:0 Friday in the tournament. Whoever my next opponent happens to be, either Wawer or Anti, I'll be available Monday/Tuesday night, and probably Wednesday night. Wednesday I'm planning to head north to Detroit to spend a few days there with friends so I won't be available during the day. Thursday however is my birthday, and since I turn 19 they were planning to take me to Canada sometime to celebrate, maybe Friday night though. But we'll be lanning most of the time I'm there, so I'm free pretty much most of the time until Sunday.
So I guess we'll try to work around that or something.
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yea i can probably play tuesday night solesteeler~
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btm never plat on ogre mound its gay..
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Yeah, it sux. Sorry I left bnet so early doggies but it's 1:40 am here and I need to wake up early tomorrow. See you all soon ^^
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hey not a prob at all but you owe me some AT next time i see ya
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aether and i will be playing tonight if anyone wants to watch/host!
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I'd gladly do both :p
in how many hours you guys gonna be playing?
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i can host too (i think i hosted most of tl games so far). just tell me at what time u'll be on
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no offense t0u, but i don't ping very well to you... 1ish sec lag
i told him 8 PM EST so we'll see if he can make it
i expect to lose 3-0... even if he randoms
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That's 4 AM for me :'(, better upload those replays :p
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Sole, you should've told me when we played But personally I think that's something wrong with Azeroth serv and not me cuz I get ~1sec lag there no matter who hosts :/ Or it can be teh distance
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it's not unplayable by any means, but it could possibly mean the difference between a well timed town portal or something 
there was a couple times in the last game we played where i remember lagging, and it actually showing the "waiting for players' thing too, but other than it didn't realy matter
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Sole, you should've told me when we played But personally I think that's something wrong with Azeroth serv and not me cuz I get ~1sec lag there no matter who hosts :/
it's not the server for custom games, it's your connection to the host. thus you need to find a polish host to have <1 sec. and 1 sec is considered pretty damn nice, even in wc3l play
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edited my message, didn't realize aether was trying to quote there 
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Heheheh, too hard to type quote /quote in brackets Aether is a lazy bastard ^^
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errr i had to dodge... i was all ready to go, but then girl comes in and drags me out (at about 8:05), we had a sandwich, went back to my room, she's sitting on my bed talking to me, i'm switching back and forth between bnet and my essay i told her i'm supposed to be working on (why i couldn't talk to her) and going "errr shit" etc. on bnet... i told aether i should be done in a few mins, he said he was pressed for time, we both agreed on friday, 5 mins later she leaves, i message aether to see if he's still up for the game, but he is now playing in (i think) a clanwar, that he can't back out of...
sorry guys >_<
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Any update on WaweR vs Anti/Fizr?
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I keep priv messaging Anti but he doesn`t answer =[
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Go go! Play the rest of the games so we could take a look into strict finals ^^
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He plays under fiZr on useast. Go play damnit!
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I happen to checked tl today ^^ and I might be able to play by friday afternoon at earliest. Yeah Like I said in my last post, things are really crazy for me now( Havent even been playing warcraft for last week+ ) but I'll try my hardest to be able to make it around 3 friday afternoon. many sorrys for all the confusion im adding to this 
btw 3:00 PM Eastern time soo thats what on tl time?
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tl time is pacific time i believe and if so thats 11:00
ps its 7:14 at my house right now tlnet time 16:00 thats 4:00 so....
ps someone come play some custom/at with meh im bored
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Shit, that you can`t play atm =( I`ll be able to play on Friday from 13-18 for sure so just tell me when.
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Well my new computer is set up.
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koo koo.
assuming this tourney is over by next weekend when will the next one start?
if you need any help organizing or w/e ill help you.
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what does w/e mean?!
anyway, could we also make like 2on2 LT tour? everyone could find someone from tl.net to team up with and stuff... this could be fun imo. also the SC/WC3 tour is still on my mind ^^
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On March 16 2005 21:00 Manit0u wrote: what does w/e mean?!
anyway, could we also make like 2on2 LT tour? everyone could find someone from tl.net to team up with and stuff... this could be fun imo. also the SC/WC3 tour is still on my mind ^^
w/e = whatever
the 2on2 would be fun and IMO it would be nice if we teamed up the better players with the worse etc. >.>
so a record like mine in groups calls for aether 
BW tourney also sounds fun
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not exactly bw tourney :D we would have SC players playing wc3 and wc3 players playing sc :D
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but what would you do about the players who play both? make them refs or something heh
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I am willing to play anytime tonight ... And am very sorry I couldn't tuesday. The only time I couldn't is probably between 5-7 PM EST.
So if you want to do it sometime before or after Aether, I'm cool with that. If you need a suggestion, let's go with 8 PM EST or like 2 PM EST
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so its about 3:15 est here and I'm still at school finishing up some work that I have to get in. Fortunately all next week is spring break so starting tonight im free at long last, um be in touch really soon then ^^
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lol youre lucky i dont have spring break for another 2 weeks =(
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anti I hope we can play tonite =] I can play for 4 / 5 hours from now on so just write here or pm me when you wanna play
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ooooh~~
afk, watching :x
<3
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gg's guys. and cpeon, fix the front page since something went wrong there ^^
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btw. I have got one noob question ^^
If a kodo has devoured something and is just digesting it and during the process it gets polimorphed... What happens to the unit being digested? Is it set free, dies instantly or when kodo reverts to normal form it's still got this unit in it's belly?
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i would think that it would remain in the state that it was in before the polymorph and would revert to that state when polymorph wears off. same with hex being used on a kodo i would think.
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they weren't that good of games... he completely dominated me, i couldn't ever get even a minor foothold =p
i thought i might of had something 2nd game... when i was able to surround his DK early and force a TP. but all 3 games i was too 'disoriented' i guess because i'm not used to such harrassment, so my rifles came out too late, i lost too many wood peasants, i wasn't able to do any creeping etc.
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yea and in the first game youre keep got done before you started blacksmith =(.
over all i think they were decent games. i think aether using his ud which is his main race is a gg for almost every person who visits tl.net that i know of.
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we must lure some more wc3 pros here it seems ^^
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From what I saw of Aether's Orc in my two games with him, I think I could have easily beaten his Orc had I been at my old skill level. Of course Aether was probably playing with one hand while blindfolded, eating dinner, and talking on the phone so I really would have had no chance either way... Ah well at least I can dream...
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Heh, for the moment I thought I could beat his hum when I pushed off his tower rush as nelf (elf being my weakest race though...) ^^ ahhh, dreams
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ffs Anti, can you play today ??? I`m available about 5 hours from now on..... pls play with me
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Anti, wtf ? Everybody is w8ing for us to finish our games..... Do sth pls, or give w/o just not to let this tour die :p
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Yeah heh this really is taking awhile.
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yea youll just need to pick a day and stay up however long it takes to get it done :/. if you cant decide on a day just give a w/o or something
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Perhaps someone could play instead of anti so wawer won't get his win free? ^^
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Anti, can you play tonite ? or ChoboPeon can you do sth ? ^^
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so wtf is happening don't let this thing die people....... its been a month since this started! (and like a week since the last games played!)
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as the tourney goes on there should be more excitement not less
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We got mired in "Can you play tonite? How about tonite?", a common affliction of tourneys such as this.
Hopefully we can get this thing back on track and set up number two, 'cause I've been laddering and I'm about ready to switch back to BW 'cause goddamnit UD can't do anything vs NE.
Errr, scratch that last part, just a bit angry ^^
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yea from what ive seen anti isnt able to be on alot so they cant play there games. and when he is on wawer is gone or something.
i have a feeling that our "war3 community" is gonna die because of this . ive already noticed it in the last 2 weeks or so no one is ever online and in the channel anymore =/ its a shame too cuz we had a good amount of players for the first week or two
p.s i need/want/would like a training partner in 1v1 to help meh out some. prefer orc/hum(my worse MU's) i play NE. if you struggle in ovn or hvn and wanna get better/help someone pm me plz
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I can play every nite, I just need to be informed when we play =[ Anti isn`t answering, and tourney is dying. Chobopeon doesn't react too so ...
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Yea thats true. I think Chobo is more into wow and other games than he is into war3 now.
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come back to east mani :D
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wow it has 4 dls^^ you did it yourself, didnt you?^^
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Well, do we want to set up a time to have another play night? I've been laddering up a storm and don't want my new skillz to atrophy or anything.
Orlandu is admining for GGL I think (or some other league) so I imagine he's pretty busy, and Aether's back to gaming, but there still seems to be a decent number of us interested in playing. Eh, any interest?
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I haven't started doing much for GGL yet, but in about a week or so the Americups start so that'll book up my Monday's and Tuesday's a good bit.
But yeah I've been pretty busy. Had Spring Break and was out of town for awhile, and immediately after I got back to school I got bogged down with stuff. I've been keeping watch, I just haven't had a whole lot to say lately.
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ill join in another play night just say what day/time youll wanna do it ill be there.
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Well, I check out east from time to time at random hours but for the last couple of days I didn't notice anyone (or at least no one active) from the ppl here :/
Crystal: and thos 4 dl's - I don't know who did it but it wasn't me :D btw. you could leave ur comments there so it would come back to the main page and more ppl could see my gosu play
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Yeah, we need to take this into our own hands or it's never getting completed.
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if neither anti nor chobopeon show up by the end of tomorrow i move for simply giving him a bye
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Sounds good to me. I think until he mentions otherwise we should still consider this as chobo's baby, (as he's done so much work up 'til now) but I think if we take collective stewardship of the tourney and try to get it finished up we won't be too out of line.
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My solution: If anti won't show up soon I suggest giving a w/o to WaweR (he showed some interest in playing his games while anti didn't) and continuing the tour on a bit different basis - the players wouldn't play their games by contacting each other and setting up the game but we would schedule some meetings (3 in a week would be just fine imo) where everyone interested would show up. This way we could have more games played and ppl could actually obs the tourney games what would be more fun imo.
What do you think?
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ive already took charge of it and mailed chobo(he gave me permission to finish this tourney for him.) and ive sent wawer the answer i got back from anti so its all good 
p.s. if anti dosent show up today i will give a w/o to wawer since he has shown that he wants to play in the tourney
p.s2 pm me the results w/ the replays if youll play the games today wawer/anti
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Weeeeee! Go go go Doggies tour cheif ^^ I think it's good decision since you were probably one of the most active out there :D
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Ok finally we have Anti online and we`r starting our games in 1 minute ^^ Scores soon Thx Doggies
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sorry about leaving near the end - I kind of thought this would be over. But anyway I tried to enforce a time limit during division play and that didn't exactly work, so I didn't know what to do here. But it all worked out, so that's good. Good luck.
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kk guys this round is finally done(LOL!) wawer beat fizr 3:0 ovo ovh and ovh ill be uploading the reps shortly.
i made a commentary in each game so check em out .
anyways next round in orlandu vs wawer
http://www.replayers.com/index.php?action=view&id=4475 <--- game3
http://www.replayers.com/index.php?action=view&id=4476 <--- game2
http://www.replayers.com/index.php?action=view&id=4477 <--- game1
p.s to see the commentaries put it on my point of view
p.s2 there is no commentary from me on these reps for some reason -_-. i dunno why. thx for pointing that out to me wawer. ill continue to investigate this and get back to youll.
p.s3 some of the highlights of the matches today!
game1: fizr forgot his tier2 tech i think and was about 10-15 secs behind wawer's. thats it =/. ahhh and wawer only have 4 peons mining gold for a while in the game.
game2: fizr went aura first for his AM(wow i still cant believe it...) wawer went about 1/2-3/4 into the game with 3-4 peons on gold(wow again -_-) ummm shaman+bloodlust=no breakers(whats up with that?)
game3: fizr went elemental first and wawer made sure he had 5 peons(GJ guys!) and once again shaman+bloodlust=no breakers?
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right well I thought you guys woulda finished this up loong ago without me :D sorry about sort of leaving but I had many things come up etc, you know how it goes. Anywhoo my warcraft hiatus def showed in the games we had so dont mock me too much ^^ good times
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putting tihs back up top so orlandu can see if he didnt notice
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Orlandu can u play tonite ?
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Good to see this is back on track - and thanks for all your work Chobo, it's understanable that you got frustrated.
We'll see when the next time I can be on is, I got disced from 2 games in a row last night. Stupid Comcast...
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Tonight I won't be able to, I have a really important Russian paper due in the morning and won't be out of class today until about 8 EST. Tomorrow night I should be able to, and if not then Wednesday I can too.
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Orlandu, we play tonite ?  I can play from now on till 16 o17 tl time
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I'll be leaving for a class in a few minutes, I should be back and ready to go at 4 EST which I THINK is 13:00 TL.net time.
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So in 2 hours, 13 mins we play ?
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yea its 13:00 tl.net time which is 19:00 or 10 CET time
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GGs guys, can't wait til the finals!
the OT point of this post though, if I may diverge from the overall stream of things for a bit - is anyone else having trouble with connections on azeroth these last couple days? I've been disced from the last 3 ladder games I've played, trying to decide whether it's my ISP or what.
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No problems for me. Have played at least 6 FFA's on Azeroth in the past 2 days.
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putting this back up in case aether hasnt saw yet
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There should be a match for 3rd place between WaweR and SoleSteeler or something.
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i'd be up for that
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if wawer is up for playing a 3-4th place match then i say go for it.
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when's good for you? i'm gonna be pretty damn busy (exams/final essays etc.) but i can make room on most days if i just know in advance...
in the afternooon EST or past 7 PM EST is best for me...
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and 7 pm est is 16:00 tl.net time btw
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Today 13-18 tl.net time ?
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18 tl.net time = 6 pm PST = 9 PM EST = i might be able to make it sure
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if youll play games and im not in there plz save reps and up load them or send them to me in a e-mail and ill upload em
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kk guys i wont be on any this weekend till sunday afternoon.
if you finish the games plz save the replays we dun wanna have to play these games over......
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no it wasnt neither of them came online.
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sorry, i'm going to be pretty busy for a while... i can do it anytime after friday, april 8th i'd say...
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any update on how the match organizations are coming along?
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lol Aether, im gona signup for next one u going down :>
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On April 04 2005 05:39 4KToD wrote: lol Aether, im gona signup for next one u going down :>
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i'm also playing the next, i'm noob tho :/
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I'm going to need a lot more practice.
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Aether and I haven't played yet, not sure when I'll get a chance to for sure.
I have to do Americups every Monday and Tuesday night, both CAL 1v1 and 2v2 some night of the week, and then whatever school stuff I have to do. My schedule is kinda fucked up at the moment, but I'm gonna take a look tonight and see if I can get a good idea of when I have free time.
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Havent played since i did some games when there acctually where tl.net guys on. But if another tour comes up i would love to give it a try.
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yea im gonna be hosting another tour about 2 weeks after this one is done(1 week break from games then a week for the sign up process) i had a request from someone to give a 2 week break in between tournaments i guess for practice and such before the next one. if i get enough request for it to be moved up to only one week after finals(for registration) then ill make it one week.
i also havent decided on groups or a bracket yet either so any input on which you think would be best/which you like best just let me know.
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I think groups are better, because even the people that aren't very good get to play a decent amount of games, and it's much easier to seed brackets once a group stage has been completed.
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yea i guess youre right. and depending on how many people we have if we dont have a even number itll be much easier to divide into groups
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any update on things guys?
sry for keeping on this but i wanna get this one over so we can start a new one since there are alot of new people that have shown interest in it.
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if you're talking about my game for 3rd/4th place... i think i might have to just concede that... too much going on for me for the next ~14 days...
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advice - jsut start a new one :p
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i didnt mean youre games really sole i dun care if youll play those or not those were just cause youll wanted em. i really meant the 1/2 place games. and yea chobo i would start another but i wanted to see this one started although if its not finished by next saturday i will start the new one
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kk guys i dun mean to keep bugging but....
if youll cant/dont want to finish the finals tell me and ill go ahead and start the sign upps for the next tourney.
but if youll can give me a day in which you can play without a doubt then ill wait on youll to finish this one before i start the next one
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Ok I probably should've mentioned this already but...
As far as my games with Aether go, neither of us have made an effort to get the games played as of yet. I'm not sure what his reasoning is, but here is mine:
A LOT of stuff has happened in my life recently, and a few days ago a lot of chaotic things happened. It more or less brought a bitter end to certain aspects of my life, and it had a big impact on me. I felt depressed to the point where I didn't eat anything at all in 48 hours. I was a mess, and became very unhealthy.
But, I know what I need to do to get my life back in order. As part of doing so, I decided to take a break from gaming and other things in my life in order to find what was truly important to me and what I really wanted to do. More or less, I'm re-evaluating my life and making some changes.
Although gaming always has and will be an important part of my life, and I have full intentions to return to it, at the moment I felt it was necessary to take a break. However, I have a prior commitment with GGL for the AmeriCups that I do NOT intend to back out on, so I will still give my all for them. But aside from that, I can't guarantee anything else, or when I'll be returning to gaming.
I'd like to still play in this next tournament, and finish up the first, but I really don't know when I'll be ready to come back. It could be in a few days, or a month from now. I'm just not really sure at the moment, I'm still sorting things out.
I'm sorry for any confusion or problems this may cause, but it was truly out of my hands and is a far more serious issue than any other aspect in my life right now.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do, but if you would like to postpone the match between me and Aether to a later time, I'll gladly play. I just know at the moment, I don't have the desire to.
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Hey Orlandu, best of luck with that man. You've been so generous with your time, I can only hope this all turns out for the best.
Hopefully we can play sometime soon, but take care of your stuff like you need to, you have lots of bench-sitting moral support over here.
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yea dude im really sorry to hear about that. i hope you get everything straightened out. im going to postpone this match untill you get back to us. whenever you get things worked out well do this match with youll.
get well soon.
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