You should easily be able to beat them through scorched earth tactics if they don't have any allies. Or try to get an alliance with either Bohemia or Austria (Ideally whoever is HRE, but any of the two should do), and pincer them to death. Try to fight defensively on your territory if they attack you, or besiege their stuff if they attack your ally.

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

November 27 2011 22:24 GMT

#1562

On November 28 2011 06:56 Simberto wrote:
You should easily be able to beat them through scorched earth tactics if they don't have any allies. Or try to get an alliance with either Bohemia or Austria (Ideally whoever is HRE, but any of the two should do), and pincer them to death. Try to fight defensively on your territory if they attack you, or besiege their stuff if they attack your ally.

That's the problem. All the territory that I would have to use in Scorched Earth are my richest provinces, including my Capital. I got a small window right now where I got a higher Fort Level on my entire border than them, so I'm considering abusing that.

Simberto

Germany11803 Posts

November 27 2011 22:46 GMT

#1563

You don't really need a lot of territory for that, just build forts everywhere, position one unit in all of your border provinces, look where they go with a large army, scorch earth there. Then wait for a bit while their army crumbles to about 10k man in however many regiments they had stationed there, and attack them with your army. You will probably need to scorch maybe 2-3 provinces, depending on how many large armies they have. That is if your army is not absolutely inferior to theirs in tech or generals. The more divisions they send to one province, the better. Beating 10k man in 10 divisions is kinda difficult, beating 10k man in 30 divisions is absurdly easy. If the province they are heading towards is very mountaineuos, you could consider just defending there if you can get your army there in time.

However, depending on your relative strength that might not even be needed, i can't really judge that from the picture since i have never played russia, or anyone expanding into russia. Defending in your own territory + russian winter on its own is pretty good at killing armies if you choose your fights wisely.

VPCursed

1044 Posts

November 27 2011 22:51 GMT

#1564

just bought the EU Chronicles on steam for $7.. hoping it comes with a tutorial : )

beef42

Denmark1037 Posts

November 27 2011 22:53 GMT

#1565

On November 28 2011 07:51 VPCursed wrote:
just bought the EU Chronicles on steam for $7.. hoping it comes with a tutorial : )

We're your tutorial. Just pick a country that looks fun (your own in RL maybe) and screw around until something kills you. Then come into this thread ask WTF and we'll help you.

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

November 27 2011 22:56 GMT

#1566

On November 28 2011 07:51 VPCursed wrote:
just bought the EU Chronicles on steam for $7.. hoping it comes with a tutorial : )

Yeah, the tutorial gives more questions than answers.

Just pick Castille and we'll help you from there.

Simberto

Germany11803 Posts

November 27 2011 23:01 GMT

#1567

There are basic tutorials. After that, just play as a strong nation, and, as beef said, come here and explain what your problem is. Ideally, don't complain that xyz kills you, just describe what your problem is. Even better would be posting a safegame, since many things that break your back are not that obvious.

However, i would strongly advice against playing the nation you are from unless you are from Spain, England, France or maybe Austria. If not, choose one of those countries first. They are pretty strong and far more forgiving to a newer player. If you are from, say, Moldavia, safe that one for after you know how the game works, because otherwise you will get a very depressing impression of hordes of horsemen riding in, killing all your men, raping your women, burning the fields an houses and selling any survivors to slavery before you are greeted by the Game Over Screen. Also, you won't really learn anything.

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

November 27 2011 23:06 GMT

#1568

The general rule of thumb I go by is:

England - Learning naval shit
Portugal - Learning colonization
France - Learning ground combat / vassalation
Castille - General everything
Austria - HRE
Holland - Trading

Yurie

12082 Posts

November 28 2011 06:41 GMT

#1569

Don't forget:
Japanese Emperor - Why every other nation is fun. Or how to teach somebody modding.

SpectralFremen

Australia386 Posts

November 28 2011 07:19 GMT

#1570

2/3PM in HRE: Form Germany for big dick points.

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

November 28 2011 08:10 GMT

#1571

On November 28 2011 08:06 Fruscainte wrote:
The general rule of thumb I go by is:

England - Learning naval shit
Portugal - Learning colonization
France - Learning ground combat / vassalation
Castille - General everything
Austria - HRE
Holland - Trading

holland = learn nothing. you start as the best trader in the world and the computer never tries to stop you. how does that teach you anything?

you can learn trade as any country preferably a strong hre country so you arent dying every 2 mins. then u can see the affect of slider changes and choices better rather than going from 99% compete chance to.... 99%

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

November 28 2011 08:37 GMT

#1572

I just love how trollemia is big almost every game I play lol

Also, funny europa pic (hope it hasn't been posted yet):

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Velr

Switzerland10876 Posts

November 28 2011 09:55 GMT

#1573

The biggest wtf that makes no sense i ever had was:

I took "National Bank" as my first Idea. About 1 year later i had this neat event:

"Your national Bank is doing shitty.. blablah)."

A: Pay 200 Ducats (yeah right, i have 15 atm).
B: Gain 5 (or 3?) Inflation (yeah right, because thats why i took the national bank idea...).

Taking some Loans was also no solutions because a loan only gave me 30 ducats...

You should add:
Holland - Learn to hate Burgundy.
Irish-Minor (and Scotland) - Learn to hate England.
Navarra - Learn to die really fast.

Caller

Poland8075 Posts

November 28 2011 10:26 GMT

#1574

On November 28 2011 18:55 Velr wrote:
You should add:
Navarra - Learn to die really fast.

alternatively, win at eu3 because navarra sliders are op as fuck

nttea

Sweden4353 Posts

November 28 2011 13:08 GMT

#1575

On November 28 2011 19:26 Caller wrote:

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alternatively, win at eu3 because navarra sliders are op as fuck

speaking of overpowered sliders, switzerland is mad crazy in the latest expansion, going from 2 provinces to what, like 8? + they are administrative republic = godly leaders and none of that succession crisis shenanigans and heirs dying left and right and they got extreme and unique sliders which are really fun

max decentralization sucks ofc but at least it makes the choices easier^^

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

November 28 2011 13:58 GMT

#1576

Alright, going to pick up my game again when I get home today. Going to go over my force limits and mint some money hopefully to help. Need to Blitzkreig Lithuania hard though. I got a tech advantage of cannons + better forts on the border, and it wont last long.

On November 28 2011 18:55 Velr wrote:
The biggest wtf that makes no sense i ever had was:

I took "National Bank" as my first Idea. About 1 year later i had this neat event:

"Your national Bank is doing shitty.. blablah)."

A: Pay 200 Ducats (yeah right, i have 15 atm).
B: Gain 5 (or 3?) Inflation (yeah right, because thats why i took the national bank idea...).

Taking some Loans was also no solutions because a loan only gave me 30 ducats...

Show nested quote +

You should add:
Holland - Learn to hate Burgundy.
Irish-Minor (and Scotland) - Learn to hate England.
Navarra - Learn to die really fast.

Hate Burgundy? Now I hated Burgundy because I was stupid, but it's VERY easy to just pay them off constantly and make them fight your wars for you. Scotland is ez to beat England, since if they declare on you, you get a like 15 man stack for free instantly along with your main army. Irish Minors are also ez, a bit of luck but ez.

BillyHardcore

Denmark104 Posts

November 28 2011 14:09 GMT

#1577

Irish minors? Haven't gotten a game going more than 2 years with close to 10 tries.
Now Tuscany, that's a pick.

Fruscainte

4596 Posts

November 28 2011 14:16 GMT

#1578

Very simple actually.

You build up a mercenary instantly, and wait. England is almost guaranteed to declare on one of the other minors, you figure out who (pay attention to the text thing on the bottom right) and then declare on them as well -- take the stab hit, and then get there first. They will just have 1 guy, you'll have 2. Take them out, annex them, and then when you get your stab back, take another stab hit and take the final minor. You'll have all 3 provinces, remove your mercenary and start trading to build up dosh and befriend England. When you become a decent trading power, wait for England to be caught up in a war and declare on them -- take a stab hit if you must. You're so small you get it back in like 2 months anyways. You rest a bunch of cavalry and an infantry or two on the final English province and wait. You need to catch their infantry coming to clean you up before it lands for a bonus. This is the luck part, but once you take that province, it's all about just stopping them from sieging it back, waiting it out and getting it on a peace deal in ~6-8 years after waiting.

Formed Ireland and colonized the entire new world like twice so far.

Angryhorse

Sweden387 Posts

November 28 2011 15:49 GMT

#1579

Just bought it, super pumped for some hardcore strategy gaming.

deafhobbit

United States828 Posts

November 28 2011 20:10 GMT

#1580

So, i have a question. I just started playing this game, playing as England, and I'm really struggling not to get constantly invaded. Started out with the conquer Ireland mission, which i accomplished, while Scotland was busy dealing with a peasant uprising. After that, i pull my army back to england, let the regiments recover their losses, and split my navy into two squadrons. Soon enough, i get the Vassalize Scotland Mission, and move in.

I have a save here, and have been able to successfully destroy Scotland's army several times. However, no matter how vigilant i am, i can't help getting invaded. Since Scotland is allied with everyone in France and Denmark, pretty much all of Europe decides to attack me. And for some reason, a single galley getting mobbed by 20+ ships is still able to land a regiment in my territory.

Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this?