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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 20:27:51
November 28 2011 20:26 GMT
#1581
On November 29 2011 05:10 deafhobbit wrote:
So, i have a question. I just started playing this game, playing as England, and I'm really struggling not to get constantly invaded. Started out with the conquer Ireland mission, which i accomplished, while Scotland was busy dealing with a peasant uprising. After that, i pull my army back to england, let the regiments recover their losses, and split my navy into two squadrons. Soon enough, i get the Vassalize Scotland Mission, and move in.

I have a save here, and have been able to successfully destroy Scotland's army several times. However, no matter how vigilant i am, i can't help getting invaded. Since Scotland is allied with everyone in France and Denmark, pretty much all of Europe decides to attack me. And for some reason, a single galley getting mobbed by 20+ ships is still able to land a regiment in my territory.

Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this?


What's your infamy? And the power of England is their navy, the point is to just never let them land any army on your lands. And sadly navies can still unload when they're getting attacked by yours so you will have to try to intercept them.
Also check your war exhaustion and take care it isn't too high because of taking Ireland. THe AI sees war exhaustion as a weakness so if it's too high they'll all jump on you. And the last point check your maintainence sometimes you set it on low and then forgot to put it up before a war, I used to have that a lot when I was new to the game.

edit: You might just want to wait untill France is in war before you attack Scotland so that they're busy and don't have the resources to attack you. After that just hold them off long enough to white peace.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 28 2011 21:50 GMT
#1582
On November 28 2011 23:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Very simple actually.

You build up a mercenary instantly, and wait. England is almost guaranteed to declare on one of the other minors, you figure out who (pay attention to the text thing on the bottom right) and then declare on them as well -- take the stab hit, and then get there first. They will just have 1 guy, you'll have 2. Take them out, annex them, and then when you get your stab back, take another stab hit and take the final minor. You'll have all 3 provinces, remove your mercenary and start trading to build up dosh and befriend England. When you become a decent trading power, wait for England to be caught up in a war and declare on them -- take a stab hit if you must. You're so small you get it back in like 2 months anyways. You rest a bunch of cavalry and an infantry or two on the final English province and wait. You need to catch their infantry coming to clean you up before it lands for a bonus. This is the luck part, but once you take that province, it's all about just stopping them from sieging it back, waiting it out and getting it on a peace deal in ~6-8 years after waiting.

Formed Ireland and colonized the entire new world like twice so far.


It's actually more efficient to just trade and pay england off and rush for qftnw since you can easily relocate your capital to the new world this way.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
November 28 2011 22:25 GMT
#1583
On November 29 2011 05:10 deafhobbit wrote:
So, i have a question. I just started playing this game, playing as England, and I'm really struggling not to get constantly invaded. Started out with the conquer Ireland mission, which i accomplished, while Scotland was busy dealing with a peasant uprising. After that, i pull my army back to england, let the regiments recover their losses, and split my navy into two squadrons. Soon enough, i get the Vassalize Scotland Mission, and move in.

I have a save here, and have been able to successfully destroy Scotland's army several times. However, no matter how vigilant i am, i can't help getting invaded. Since Scotland is allied with everyone in France and Denmark, pretty much all of Europe decides to attack me. And for some reason, a single galley getting mobbed by 20+ ships is still able to land a regiment in my territory.

Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with this?


You can't really prevent ALL of the enemy armies from landing. However, you also don't have to. Be careful, there is some strange Braveheart event where the Scots get a pretty large army for free. But after you beat their army, just leave 2000 infantery man in each of their provinces, and besiege them. Keep your main army near until you control the highlands because of that event, and other than that, just mop up those small amounts of troops they manage to land. If they land 5k troops, that should not really be a problem, just prevent reinforcements, walk your army there and kill them, they have nowhere to retreat to.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 28 2011 22:39 GMT
#1584
The best advice in that situation would be to wait until the allies of Scotland are in a war. Usually they can't help scotland fast enough or not at all
"Yeah buddy"
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 28 2011 22:53 GMT
#1585
On November 29 2011 06:50 Monsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 23:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Very simple actually.

You build up a mercenary instantly, and wait. England is almost guaranteed to declare on one of the other minors, you figure out who (pay attention to the text thing on the bottom right) and then declare on them as well -- take the stab hit, and then get there first. They will just have 1 guy, you'll have 2. Take them out, annex them, and then when you get your stab back, take another stab hit and take the final minor. You'll have all 3 provinces, remove your mercenary and start trading to build up dosh and befriend England. When you become a decent trading power, wait for England to be caught up in a war and declare on them -- take a stab hit if you must. You're so small you get it back in like 2 months anyways. You rest a bunch of cavalry and an infantry or two on the final English province and wait. You need to catch their infantry coming to clean you up before it lands for a bonus. This is the luck part, but once you take that province, it's all about just stopping them from sieging it back, waiting it out and getting it on a peace deal in ~6-8 years after waiting.

Formed Ireland and colonized the entire new world like twice so far.


It's actually more efficient to just trade and pay england off and rush for qftnw since you can easily relocate your capital to the new world this way.


Well that's true if you're too casual to form Ireland.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 28 2011 23:06 GMT
#1586
or you could take the easy way and install D&T, there you can form Ireland without Meath (English Irish province).
I have seen the AI form Ireland many times :p
"Yeah buddy"
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 29 2011 01:11 GMT
#1587
On November 29 2011 07:53 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 06:50 Monsen wrote:
On November 28 2011 23:16 Fruscainte wrote:
Very simple actually.

You build up a mercenary instantly, and wait. England is almost guaranteed to declare on one of the other minors, you figure out who (pay attention to the text thing on the bottom right) and then declare on them as well -- take the stab hit, and then get there first. They will just have 1 guy, you'll have 2. Take them out, annex them, and then when you get your stab back, take another stab hit and take the final minor. You'll have all 3 provinces, remove your mercenary and start trading to build up dosh and befriend England. When you become a decent trading power, wait for England to be caught up in a war and declare on them -- take a stab hit if you must. You're so small you get it back in like 2 months anyways. You rest a bunch of cavalry and an infantry or two on the final English province and wait. You need to catch their infantry coming to clean you up before it lands for a bonus. This is the luck part, but once you take that province, it's all about just stopping them from sieging it back, waiting it out and getting it on a peace deal in ~6-8 years after waiting.

Formed Ireland and colonized the entire new world like twice so far.


It's actually more efficient to just trade and pay england off and rush for qftnw since you can easily relocate your capital to the new world this way.


Well that's true if you're too casual to form Ireland.


I don't know about "casual", but I'm sure that having those 200 provinces in north and south america as homeland instead of distant overseas is pretty good. With qftnw you can, with luck, get a core in NA pretty fast: Slap some indians around -> leave them with scattered provinces for maximum border friction chances -> get core -> relocate capital -> no more shitty tariffs + ridiculous short colonisation distances.

I'll admit that it is somewhat "gamey" and less roleplay than forming ireland.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 29 2011 02:29 GMT
#1588
I need to figure out how to use Magna Mundi. I'm ready to get my anus torn open, but I have no idea where to start. I heard it was HttT, but the Wiki for it says it's Vanilla. Fuck me I'm confused.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 02:44:15
November 29 2011 02:38 GMT
#1589
On November 29 2011 11:29 Fruscainte wrote:
I need to figure out how to use Magna Mundi. I'm ready to get my anus torn open, but I have no idea where to start. I heard it was HttT, but the Wiki for it says it's Vanilla. Fuck me I'm confused.


It requires a very certain (not latest) patch of Heir to the Throne. The details are here. I tried it out by acquiring the Complete edition and patching from there.

For me, having gotten very used to features like hunt rebels or split army, suddenly having them missing messes me up in such a way I can't focus on figuring this game out. So I haven't really "gotten into" it. It also runs really slowly, and has all those popups you associate with a heavily modded game.

I didn't feel it was worth the trouble. I'm hanging in there for the real MM game coming January we hope.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10837 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 12:51:36
November 29 2011 12:34 GMT
#1590
On November 28 2011 22:58 Fruscainte wrote:
Alright, going to pick up my game again when I get home today. Going to go over my force limits and mint some money hopefully to help. Need to Blitzkreig Lithuania hard though. I got a tech advantage of cannons + better forts on the border, and it wont last long.

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 18:55 Velr wrote:
The biggest wtf that makes no sense i ever had was:

I took "National Bank" as my first Idea. About 1 year later i had this neat event:

"Your national Bank is doing shitty.. blablah)."

A: Pay 200 Ducats (yeah right, i have 15 atm).
B: Gain 5 (or 3?) Inflation (yeah right, because thats why i took the national bank idea...).

Taking some Loans was also no solutions because a loan only gave me 30 ducats...

The general rule of thumb I go by is:

England - Learning naval shit
Portugal - Learning colonization
France - Learning ground combat / vassalation
Castille - General everything
Austria - HRE
Holland - Trading


You should add:
Holland - Learn to hate Burgundy.
Irish-Minor (and Scotland) - Learn to hate England.
Navarra - Learn to die really fast.


Hate Burgundy? Now I hated Burgundy because I was stupid, but it's VERY easy to just pay them off constantly and make them fight your wars for you. Scotland is ez to beat England, since if they declare on you, you get a like 15 man stack for free instantly along with your main army. Irish Minors are also ez, a bit of luck but ez.



Paying them off is enough to hate them?
And if it's not Burgundy its France that will piss you off :p.

I hated playing as Holland, i am back to just picking Switzerland if i want to trade (you just have to forece your way fast to a coastal province to actually get a port.. But Lombardia, Liguria, Parma and/or the Savoyan provinces are very tasty anyway.

As Scotland England allways mauled me, even with the 12 extra stacks... But i was really noobish back then. Playing an Irish minor = Luck.. As is Navarra and stuff like this.


I'm in a game atm where i own:
Cudemo, Nice, Piedmont, Lombardia, Liguria, Parma, Tirol, Verona and Modena + every Sotuh American coastal province (but not the carribean).

Sadly I was to slow (actually just lazy, there really was no other reason) to grab the Aztecs and so Burgundy (strongest european power and my neighbour -.-) and England (strong navy as usal) own a few provinces in the middle of Swiss-Aztec and Swiss South America. They even got really big Armies there so spies won't do much to solve this... Damn me :p... Well, let's slow down/finish the colonising a little (I just spammed colonists on every province I could find so the costs were/are astronomical) and build up some army .
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 22:11:04
November 29 2011 22:08 GMT
#1591
[image loading]
"Yeah buddy"
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 30 2011 16:00 GMT
#1592
A small article on Magna Mundi on rockpapershotgun.

Trailer and talk about impending beta
"Yeah buddy"
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
December 03 2011 16:37 GMT
#1593
Does anyone know if certain countries have a higher chance of getting the ''death of heir''-types of events than others?

Because I tried playing a few games as Sweden recently and it was just completely unplayable, my heirs died constantly (I think I had something like 4-5 deaths in 50ish years and none of my kings became older than 40 or so years.
This isn't something I've experienced with any other country which is why I'm starting to wonder if countries have different % chances of getting these events.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
December 03 2011 16:52 GMT
#1594
No, those are completely random. You can look those events up in the "Dynastic.txt" file in the events directory, and they are all enabled by you having an heir, or having an heir who is older then 15, and nothing influences their rather long MTTH at all. So, random bad luck.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12006 Posts
December 03 2011 17:31 GMT
#1595
On December 04 2011 01:52 Simberto wrote:
No, those are completely random. You can look those events up in the "Dynastic.txt" file in the events directory, and they are all enabled by you having an heir, or having an heir who is older then 15, and nothing influences their rather long MTTH at all. So, random bad luck.


Knowing where the event is also means you can remove it if you want to or change it to be less/more likely.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
December 03 2011 17:35 GMT
#1596
But note that that disables achievements.
Elektrobear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
108 Posts
December 05 2011 11:59 GMT
#1597
Current game as Ireland in 1495

[image loading]
This is my diplomatic situation, Castille is my main ally and I've got scotland in a PU.

Basically, starting as Munster I rushed to unite the free irish provinces and started building up my army as I waited for the perfect opportunity to strike against England. That opportunity came when England decided that the yellow blob of scotland offended their sight and decided to vassalize them. This threw them into a war spanning most of europe, caused them to lose their provinces on mainland europe to france and scotland proved to be a difficult foe. At some point I got dragged into the war, where I took the only english province on Ireland and defended their attempts to land more troops, waiting for Castille to come save my ass.

They eventually managed to sneak a few cogs past the huge english fleet, and somehow managed to destroy england's land army as well. This put me in the position to claim 4 provinces from England, which I used to unite Ireland, as well as split South england from the newly annexed rebel infested North. I spent the following years consolidating my hold over the british isles, wrestling with powers like Denmark, Aragon and France.

France is a complete beast atm, I barely managed to get enough warscore to claim their 1 province in south england by getting them into a huge war. There was the british front which consisted of Me and Scotland, thei berian front with Castille and Portugal, the dutch front with Holland and Brabant, The european front with the bohemian emperor and his puppets and the italian front with the milanese and some italian friends.

France kicked all of their asses

Now I'm just continuing my work to stabilize the british isles, as well as expanding to the americas.

Oh and btw, Portugal is getting spanked in the current war.

Europe in 1495 looks like this:
[image loading]
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 05 2011 15:27 GMT
#1598
denmark inherited sweden?

france beat austria to release styria?

lol

france is blobbing who released normandy? urbino annexed the pope?! :D crazy stuff
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
December 05 2011 15:43 GMT
#1599
Time to rant. Way too much cursing for my own good probably as well.

I'm mad. I'm fucking mad as hell at this god damn game. Like honestly, fuck you Russia. Fuck you with the biggest god damn dick you can find because I'm so mad. I start out a game as Russia. Yeah, I'm doing great and shit. Stem off the Horde, stem off the West. Keep an alliance with Poland which keeps me safe as I form Russia with glorious Tver and start colonizing a bit East and getting some cores to the South. Oh look, half of my cores are in Lithuania and Poland. Great, I need to beat BOTH of those fuckers, plus their ally Sweden/Denmark/Norway. So I go to war with them, Burn Earth and start widdling them down. Just as I'm remotely starting to get a tide, I notice I'm also at war with some random Horde I never saw before. Oh look, they're in my fucking back and took over all my colonies. Their 1000 men are taking my Level 2 Forts in like two months time, and in two more months, instantly make it their territory. So in the course of less than a year, I lost 40% of my Eastern provinces, Burnt Earth like 4 of my rich western provinces just to slightly stem the tide of oncoming Lithuanians and Polish (because if I -wasn't- in constant war with them for my Cores, I would be losing ~20 prestige a year for fucking leaving cored land unclaimed).

God damnit.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 05 2011 15:58 GMT
#1600
sounds like somebody needs to promote cultural unity... :D
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