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Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 17 2011 09:55 GMT
#1501
Attrition probably.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 14:44:46
November 17 2011 19:11 GMT
#1502
On November 16 2011 15:50 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 07:40 hpty603 wrote:
So my game keeps crashing. I'll play for less than a year and it'll CTD. I deleted the majority of my old savegames (cleared like 300mbs off my computer) but it keeps happening. Anybody know a possibility? I'm playing Complete on Steam, btw


Have you tried to verify game files integrity under the properties -> local files for the game?

If that doesn't help, standard advice, update drivers, sound, video and so on. (I got a CTD yesterday, no clue why.)

Edit, btw why does War Exhaustion go up into the 20's in ~one year of war where I win ~20 battles and lose 3 without going below half manpower at any time?


war exaustion is a static effect, by which i mean having a massive army take 10% attrition dmg gives more than a tiny army taking 10% attrition. in the late game you get war exaustion pretty quickly even if you win the war convincingly
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 18 2011 13:56 GMT
#1503
On November 18 2011 04:11 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 15:50 Yurie wrote:
On November 16 2011 07:40 hpty603 wrote:
So my game keeps crashing. I'll play for less than a year and it'll CTD. I deleted the majority of my old savegames (cleared like 300mbs off my computer) but it keeps happening. Anybody know a possibility? I'm playing Complete on Steam, btw


Have you tried to verify game files integrity under the properties -> local files for the game?

If that doesn't help, standard advice, update drivers, sound, video and so on. (I got a CTD yesterday, no clue why.)

Edit, btw why does War Exhaustion go up into the 20's in ~one year of war where I win ~20 battles and lose 3 without going below half manpower at any time?


war exaustion is a static effect, by which i mean having a massive army take 10% attrition dmg gives less than a tiny army taking 10% attrition. in the late game you get war exaustion pretty quickly even if you win the war convincingly

I assume you mean a larger army gives more?

Anyhow, the easiest way to avoid mass WE is to just not pile up armies except in fights.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 14:17:36
November 18 2011 14:16 GMT
#1504
Yeah, but once you get large enough, you sometimes just forget to move one army from enemy territory after a war, or don't notice that 2 of your 20 stacks are in the same province, and then after a few years you suddenly notice you got lots of WE and try to find that one stupid army that is producing it all. This especially tends to happen when you colonize all of the hordes in Russia. And then there are your nice "Allies" who think it is a good idea to run through Siberia with a combined stack of no less than 100k men. And when those 100k men pass through one of your sensibly-sized ones, you get lots of WE again.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 14:45:49
November 18 2011 14:44 GMT
#1505
On November 18 2011 22:56 Pewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 04:11 turdburgler wrote:
On November 16 2011 15:50 Yurie wrote:
On November 16 2011 07:40 hpty603 wrote:
So my game keeps crashing. I'll play for less than a year and it'll CTD. I deleted the majority of my old savegames (cleared like 300mbs off my computer) but it keeps happening. Anybody know a possibility? I'm playing Complete on Steam, btw


Have you tried to verify game files integrity under the properties -> local files for the game?

If that doesn't help, standard advice, update drivers, sound, video and so on. (I got a CTD yesterday, no clue why.)

Edit, btw why does War Exhaustion go up into the 20's in ~one year of war where I win ~20 battles and lose 3 without going below half manpower at any time?


war exaustion is a static effect, by which i mean having a massive army take 10% attrition dmg gives less than a tiny army taking 10% attrition. in the late game you get war exaustion pretty quickly even if you win the war convincingly

I assume you mean a larger army gives more?

Anyhow, the easiest way to avoid mass WE is to just not pile up armies except in fights.


i meant to say more :D

the most annoying thing about WE for me is that (as far as i know) theres no way to invest in getting it down. if you want to invest in being a warring nation you can get more man power, better troops etc etc, but you will still get crazy WE just shutting you down
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
November 18 2011 15:02 GMT
#1506
I have noticed that the ruler influences your problems with WE by a very large margin. Sadly, unless you are a republic you can't influence your ruler. If you have an Admin 6-8 ruler, WE is usually no problem, because you get enough reduction to deal with it unless you are REALLY losing a war. However, with your usual Admin 3 dumbass, your WE will rack up pretty quickly even while winning a war.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
November 18 2011 18:42 GMT
#1507
On November 19 2011 00:02 Simberto wrote:
I have noticed that the ruler influences your problems with WE by a very large margin. Sadly, unless you are a republic you can't influence your ruler. If you have an Admin 6-8 ruler, WE is usually no problem, because you get enough reduction to deal with it unless you are REALLY losing a war. However, with your usual Admin 3 dumbass, your WE will rack up pretty quickly even while winning a war.


I don't think it's sad you can't influence your ruler as a monarchy, incompetent rulers is something countries really had to deal with and with personal unions monarchies are already powerful enough. Republics need atleast some advantages over monarchies.

btw I read a really wel written AAR I reccomend it to you all

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?562965-The-Red-Lioness-of-Holland&s=81d851a056fc53e37addee10148c188f
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 19 2011 23:15 GMT
#1508
On November 19 2011 03:42 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 00:02 Simberto wrote:
I have noticed that the ruler influences your problems with WE by a very large margin. Sadly, unless you are a republic you can't influence your ruler. If you have an Admin 6-8 ruler, WE is usually no problem, because you get enough reduction to deal with it unless you are REALLY losing a war. However, with your usual Admin 3 dumbass, your WE will rack up pretty quickly even while winning a war.


I don't think it's sad you can't influence your ruler as a monarchy, incompetent rulers is something countries really had to deal with and with personal unions monarchies are already powerful enough. Republics need atleast some advantages over monarchies.

btw I read a really wel written AAR I reccomend it to you all

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?562965-The-Red-Lioness-of-Holland&s=81d851a056fc53e37addee10148c188f

Indeed. Republics are bad enough already, no need to make Monarchies stronger.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
November 20 2011 08:54 GMT
#1509
On November 20 2011 08:15 Pewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 03:42 RvB wrote:
On November 19 2011 00:02 Simberto wrote:
I have noticed that the ruler influences your problems with WE by a very large margin. Sadly, unless you are a republic you can't influence your ruler. If you have an Admin 6-8 ruler, WE is usually no problem, because you get enough reduction to deal with it unless you are REALLY losing a war. However, with your usual Admin 3 dumbass, your WE will rack up pretty quickly even while winning a war.


I don't think it's sad you can't influence your ruler as a monarchy, incompetent rulers is something countries really had to deal with and with personal unions monarchies are already powerful enough. Republics need atleast some advantages over monarchies.

btw I read a really wel written AAR I reccomend it to you all

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?562965-The-Red-Lioness-of-Holland&s=81d851a056fc53e37addee10148c188f

Indeed. Republics are bad enough already, no need to make Monarchies stronger.


I was in no way implying that. I know quite well that that is one of the main advantages of republics, while PUs are the main advantage of monarchies. That does not make a stream of 3/3/3 monarchs any less infuriating. However, i would strongly disagree with republics being bad. Especially an Administrative Republic as a trading nation is very, very good.
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
November 20 2011 11:58 GMT
#1510
On November 20 2011 17:54 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 08:15 Pewt wrote:
On November 19 2011 03:42 RvB wrote:
On November 19 2011 00:02 Simberto wrote:
I have noticed that the ruler influences your problems with WE by a very large margin. Sadly, unless you are a republic you can't influence your ruler. If you have an Admin 6-8 ruler, WE is usually no problem, because you get enough reduction to deal with it unless you are REALLY losing a war. However, with your usual Admin 3 dumbass, your WE will rack up pretty quickly even while winning a war.


I don't think it's sad you can't influence your ruler as a monarchy, incompetent rulers is something countries really had to deal with and with personal unions monarchies are already powerful enough. Republics need atleast some advantages over monarchies.

btw I read a really wel written AAR I reccomend it to you all

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?562965-The-Red-Lioness-of-Holland&s=81d851a056fc53e37addee10148c188f

Indeed. Republics are bad enough already, no need to make Monarchies stronger.


I was in no way implying that. I know quite well that that is one of the main advantages of republics, while PUs are the main advantage of monarchies. That does not make a stream of 3/3/3 monarchs any less infuriating. However, i would strongly disagree with republics being bad. Especially an Administrative Republic as a trading nation is very, very good.

~+25% early game trade income is a nice bonus, but it doesn't make up for the fact that a monarchy can PU half of Europe in the first 30 years.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 20 2011 20:58 GMT
#1511
Hm, what to do as Holland. Fucking Burgundy has cock blocked me already from getting Netherlands, so I need to wait until they collapse before I start conquering. Guess it's time for New World rushing, I just hope that I can beat Portugal to The Azores.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
November 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#1512
You should easily be able to, Holland has insane trading sliders and just recks in the money, as long as you can keep France/Burgundy from eating you. But you need some naval tech to reach the azores if i remember correctly, probably hiring a colonial range advisor for that would be a smart idea, too.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 21 2011 01:38 GMT
#1513
Welp

Now I'm screwed.

Just as I start to mass colonies on South America (had 250 ducats a year + 15 ducats a month from crazy trade income and shit), I get bum fucked by EVERY nation in the game. Aragon, Burgundy, France, Friesland, Austria, everyone. I had no bad boy, no low prestige, high legitimacy. Just, Burgundy had a Reconquest CB and apparently everyone hates me so they declared on me as well.

I lost half of my European territory, not being able to defend against ~150k soldier with my feeble 10k and collapsed. Furthermore, considering NO ONE would accept the best peace offers possible until I had ~30 war exhaustion (I shit you not, I tried giving these people 600 ducats, every one of my territories in every possible combination, the things they were at war with me for, etc. NO ONE accepted them, and I got NO peace offers), I had ridiculous revolts all across my lands. I decided to say "Fuck it" and just move all of my resources to my colonies and relocate there, it was the only thing I -could- do at this point, because Burgundy, somehow, got another Core on one of my provinces and was going to declare on me in 5 years again anyways.

However, I suddenly collapse as a nation with no warning and just get bum fucked.

Guess I played far too greedy that game, in combination with some pretty sick logic of NO ONE taking my peace deals for 7 years (._.)
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 02:27:09
November 21 2011 02:19 GMT
#1514
I'm currently playing a Holland game where my only European provinces, at around 1550 are Holland+Zeeland and Iceland that decided to join me completely at random.

I just allied with Burgundy pretty much the second my PU with Hainut broke off and that alliance held for 100ish years, when they cancelled it I was lucky enough to get a new alliance with England instead and so far that has deterred any Burgundian aggression it seems.

So I've been free to colonize like crazy, just got an event called ''Overextended'' or something like that because I'm expanding too rapidly which is really annoying :S

I also had some of the most crazy luck with technology events I've seen in EU3 so far, I started the game with a rank 5 Naval Reformer (or what the guy that gives naval technology investment is called) and I think I got 2 or 3 of those events where your technology investment great person writes some work of great importance that gives you 15.00 more investment in his technology for like 5 or 10 years. This resulted in me having The Azores, Madeira, Cape Verde, The Canarias, Bermuda, Manhattan, Curacao, Jamaica, Fernando Po, St. Helena and 3-4 more African colonies before any other country even had a single overseas colony.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 21 2011 02:40 GMT
#1515
On November 21 2011 11:19 Blondinbengt wrote:
I'm currently playing a Holland game where my only European provinces, at around 1550 are Holland+Zeeland and Iceland that decided to join me completely at random.

I just allied with Burgundy pretty much the second my PU with Hainut broke off and that alliance held for 100ish years, when they cancelled it I was lucky enough to get a new alliance with England instead and so far that has deterred any Burgundian aggression it seems.

So I've been free to colonize like crazy, just got an event called ''Overextended'' or something like that because I'm expanding too rapidly which is really annoying :S

I also had some of the most crazy luck with technology events I've seen in EU3 so far, I started the game with a rank 5 Naval Reformer (or what the guy that gives naval technology investment is called) and I think I got 2 or 3 of those events where your technology investment great person writes some work of great importance that gives you 15.00 more investment in his technology for like 5 or 10 years. This resulted in me having The Azores, Madeira, Cape Verde, The Canarias, Bermuda, Manhattan, Curacao, Jamaica, Fernando Po, St. Helena and 3-4 more African colonies before any other country even had a single overseas colony.


Well, the turning point of the game when I was especially greedy came when I had all of Burgundy's provinces conquered with Excommunication. France/Austria got them first, and I merely left soldiers on the conquered provinces and took them back after France/Austria were done respectively and just took it all in like a year. I had to make a choice. No matter what I was taking Utrecht since it was necessary for forming The Netherlands, however, the choice between releasing Flanders (or whatever they're called) or taking Antwerpen was where I had the issue.

If I released Flanders or whatever, all of Northern Burgundy is replaced with a country that I will have an alliance and royal marriage to. Basically a pretty darn strong ally to protect my ass throughout the game.

HOWEVER

If I took Antwerpen, I could destroy the CoT and make my own in Holland and make mad bank. So I took Antwerpen from them and left it at that, it was all I -could- do with 100% warscore. And made bank did I indeed. Got my CoT worth in Holland up to like 1.5k ducats and my income skyrockets monthly and yearly. It was really what helped me reach the ridiculous amount of money I was making by the end of the 1400's. However, that greed gave Burgundy a Reconquest CB on me and left them just as damn strong as they were before. I took a gamble and it bit me in the ass.

I should have just released Flanders and tried to vassalize them peacefully and took Antwerpen, again, peacefully throughout many years.

And if you're asking why did I want to take Antwerpen in the first place. Well, it was my nearest CoT and it was worth only like 250 ducats. You need the nearest to be worth something like 500 ducats before you can make another CoT in one of your provinces. So I had to destroy it so Lubek would be my next closest and I could make a CoT. If it was worth <500, I would have just left it be and made my own on my own time.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11508 Posts
November 21 2011 10:21 GMT
#1516
On November 21 2011 11:40 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:19 Blondinbengt wrote:
I'm currently playing a Holland game where my only European provinces, at around 1550 are Holland+Zeeland and Iceland that decided to join me completely at random.

I just allied with Burgundy pretty much the second my PU with Hainut broke off and that alliance held for 100ish years, when they cancelled it I was lucky enough to get a new alliance with England instead and so far that has deterred any Burgundian aggression it seems.

So I've been free to colonize like crazy, just got an event called ''Overextended'' or something like that because I'm expanding too rapidly which is really annoying :S

I also had some of the most crazy luck with technology events I've seen in EU3 so far, I started the game with a rank 5 Naval Reformer (or what the guy that gives naval technology investment is called) and I think I got 2 or 3 of those events where your technology investment great person writes some work of great importance that gives you 15.00 more investment in his technology for like 5 or 10 years. This resulted in me having The Azores, Madeira, Cape Verde, The Canarias, Bermuda, Manhattan, Curacao, Jamaica, Fernando Po, St. Helena and 3-4 more African colonies before any other country even had a single overseas colony.


Well, the turning point of the game when I was especially greedy came when I had all of Burgundy's provinces conquered with Excommunication. France/Austria got them first, and I merely left soldiers on the conquered provinces and took them back after France/Austria were done respectively and just took it all in like a year. I had to make a choice. No matter what I was taking Utrecht since it was necessary for forming The Netherlands, however, the choice between releasing Flanders (or whatever they're called) or taking Antwerpen was where I had the issue.

If I released Flanders or whatever, all of Northern Burgundy is replaced with a country that I will have an alliance and royal marriage to. Basically a pretty darn strong ally to protect my ass throughout the game.

HOWEVER

If I took Antwerpen, I could destroy the CoT and make my own in Holland and make mad bank. So I took Antwerpen from them and left it at that, it was all I -could- do with 100% warscore. And made bank did I indeed. Got my CoT worth in Holland up to like 1.5k ducats and my income skyrockets monthly and yearly. It was really what helped me reach the ridiculous amount of money I was making by the end of the 1400's. However, that greed gave Burgundy a Reconquest CB on me and left them just as damn strong as they were before. I took a gamble and it bit me in the ass.

I should have just released Flanders and tried to vassalize them peacefully and took Antwerpen, again, peacefully throughout many years.

And if you're asking why did I want to take Antwerpen in the first place. Well, it was my nearest CoT and it was worth only like 250 ducats. You need the nearest to be worth something like 500 ducats before you can make another CoT in one of your provinces. So I had to destroy it so Lubek would be my next closest and I could make a CoT. If it was worth <500, I would have just left it be and made my own on my own time.


Couldn't you have removed the Burgundian core with Cultural Unity?
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 10:35:56
November 21 2011 10:34 GMT
#1517
Or just send spies upon spies so they would not recover for centuries (and some Minor eventually breaks off)? (Thats how i tend to deal with Austria if i won a war but can't or don't want to split them).
I assume the Burgundian armies have been dead/non existant before you made peace?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 21 2011 12:14 GMT
#1518
On November 21 2011 19:34 Velr wrote:
Or just send spies upon spies so they would not recover for centuries (and some Minor eventually breaks off)? (Thats how i tend to deal with Austria if i won a war but can't or don't want to split them).
I assume the Burgundian armies have been dead/non existant before you made peace?


That's the thing, I was kind of in a rush. 40k troops were descending upon me that were, for some reason, all the way in Bohemia. I had less than a year before they came to me and fucked my shit up. In fact, as I made peace, they were sieging some territories already in the Southern provinces.

And I didn't have the warscore to break the core in the peace deal, and it wouldn't let me do the cultural unity shit. In retrospect, it was a VERY stupid and greedy idea.

Oh well, such is the life of High aggression.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
November 21 2011 12:17 GMT
#1519
I always play on low aggression so this might not work but what I used to do is colonise very quickly and then move my capital to the new world when I can. Then whenever Burgundy attacks just let them occupy your provinces in Europe they can't ever reach your colonies anyway so after a while they just white peace you. :D
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#1520
On November 21 2011 21:17 RvB wrote:
I always play on low aggression so this might not work but what I used to do is colonise very quickly and then move my capital to the new world when I can. Then whenever Burgundy attacks just let them occupy your provinces in Europe they can't ever reach your colonies anyway so after a while they just white peace you. :D


Yeah, that really isn't an option on High Aggression. SOMEONE is going to attack you.
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