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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
November 13 2011 10:56 GMT
#1461
I just noticed that we have more than double the length of the Civ5 Thread. So, basically, we rock.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11836 Posts
November 13 2011 11:53 GMT
#1462
Is it possible to do World conquest as one of the Japanese nations? Have been considering doing it, but don't really see how it would be possible...
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 12:00:01
November 13 2011 11:56 GMT
#1463
Why wouldn't it be possible? It is possible to do a WC as Ryukyu. That is that very small Pagan Island south of Japan.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 13:37:10
November 13 2011 13:35 GMT
#1464
On November 13 2011 16:08 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2011 07:42 Fruscainte wrote:
On November 13 2011 07:32 sermokala wrote:
Wow thanks I'm going to go do that right now.


Yeah no problem.

About the time that Novgorod stops being useful is around the time that Muscowy/the Eastern Hordes catch up to them. I just canceled vassalation, because honestly -- it's not worth protecting them that late into the game. Just let the Hordes wittle them down, let the revolts go crazy and form a bunch of smaller nations, etc. I know it will also be tempting to move into the East for easy provinces, I recommend against it. Low population, basically no money to be gained, no forts -- it's just not worth it. If you want to do it for appearances (IE: Form Prussia with Russian borders or some shit) by all means, there is absolutely reason why you CAN'T do it -- it is probably the easiest strat out there to do. However, pushing West and into Scandinavia potentially is far more profitable.



Another thing: At some point a lot of small german countries will add into your wars for random reason. Use this every time to build up vassals. Vassalisation is 4 inf/country, so you can easily take 3 of them as vassals. Don't attack them for that reason unless austria is the HRE and has no way of reaching you.

Also, in my opinion the most important thing: Get some SoI early on. In my game as TO to form germany (Low aggression, VH difficulty) i think i lost the first 3-4 wars i got in against the Emperor, but i always managed to gain what i wanted from the war beforehand(vassals, land). Then you can just reduce you SoI as soon as they are ready to negotiate at all. So you have gotten what you wanted from the war, and not really lost anything to the emperor. My usual combination of Advisors is MoM/Diplomat/Philosopher.

Also, i didn't find scandinavia really dangerous. Sure, you usually can't reach them, but they also just besiege Gotland and then drop small stacks of guys onto you.

.


I always, when I"m doing a conquering strategy, get a high level diplomat ASAP. You can literally lose 1.2 infamy per year, which is just fucking amazing in the long run and can let you get away with some wacky shit.

By the way, I don't think people realize how useful expanding your influence is. Just 3 or 4 countries in your Influence raises your diplomatic skill by a metric fuck ton.

On November 13 2011 19:56 Simberto wrote:
I just noticed that we have more than double the length of the Civ5 Thread. So, basically, we rock.


Hey, don't mess with that game. I have like 140 hours on it

But yeah, I did not expect this thread to be so successful. Here I thought not many people would play it and it would just drift away.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11836 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 13:48:06
November 13 2011 13:45 GMT
#1465
On November 13 2011 20:56 Simberto wrote:
Why wouldn't it be possible? It is possible to do a WC as Ryukyu. That is that very small Pagan Island south of Japan.


Inspired by this I started a game as emperor. After a while it started bugging me that I couldn't use any diplomatic options when I wanted to start expanding. I then realised this is the most boring nation of all to play since you can do nothing but join allies in war.

Is there any guide on what to change in order to enable diplomacy so one can use the one province country Japan to conquer the world?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
November 13 2011 15:10 GMT
#1466
You can play that? I didn't even think it was possible.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 13 2011 15:16 GMT
#1467
On November 14 2011 00:10 Simberto wrote:
You can play that? I didn't even think it was possible.


yeah you can play it but like he said you cant do anything with it.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 13 2011 15:26 GMT
#1468
If anyone can conquer anything with Maldives, I will be highly impressed.

(that small cluster of islands south west of India)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 15:36:57
November 13 2011 15:34 GMT
#1469
Worst case:

Stay on that island for as long as it takes to get enough Slider moves into free Trade and at least one of the 2 trade NIs, start trading like a crazy person, be filthy rich and either colonize or conquer something. Since you start at -4 mercantilism, that probably means around a century of doing nothing, but it should still be doable.
Jhohok
Profile Joined December 2010
United States71 Posts
November 13 2011 16:05 GMT
#1470
On November 14 2011 00:26 Fruscainte wrote:
If anyone can conquer anything with Maldives, I will be highly impressed.

(that small cluster of islands south west of India)


Nope, some guy tried that and wrote up an AR (after action report)
He started out and was like YYYEEEEAAAA I'm MALDIVES!!!
He had 1 army.
Then some other country landed on his single province with 2 armies. GG
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 18:18:01
November 13 2011 16:18 GMT
#1471
Hm. I just went until about 1430, then vijaynagar declared war on me without a CB and annexed me. However, in most other games i play i can still see the maldives around when i come to india in the 16th century, so it is probably a thing about luck mostly. I can't understand why someone would take a 2 stab and 8 infamy hit to annex that useless province.

However, you notice interesting things this way. For example, did you know that you can pay for one 6-star advisor solely by selling advisors to other countries, and for another one even with the most useless province in the world? Sure, i did not have an army, but having 1000 troops does not really make a difference in any situation. One could probably also try to go for QftNW and expand into america, but sadly you cannot get a Naval Tech advisor only for cultural tradition, so that would be hard.

Edit: Ok, that seemed to be a pretty random thing. I reloaded an autosave, and now i am in 1460 and making shitloads of money. And i don't even know the rich CoTs like Nanjing yet. I could try saving up for some years, then recruit a mercenary army and attack Ceylon, or something of the likes. The safest bet for a long-term game would probably be to get QftNW now, and maybe use those mercs to beat up some native americans. But since the goal is only to conquer something, i am to lazy for that. Does Land Research help improve your mercenaries?

Edit2: On VH obviously.

[image loading]

I demand that you are highly impressed by me now.
Jhohok
Profile Joined December 2010
United States71 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 21:29:15
November 13 2011 16:24 GMT
#1472
EDIT: To Above: If you've reached the mainland, then anything is possible!

So this is me with Austria and I managed to get all of the reforms, so now I'm the HRE (Holy Roman Empire). My money/manpower is pretty ridiculous, and I can rape whomever I want
Castille still hasn't formed Spain, and they took the region under Russia, see the yellow section above the Ottomans.
Russia, the green shape to the right, is motherfucking huge, about 5 times the size of me.
I killed France in the mid 1400's so now she's only one or two provinces. Orleans/Aragon kind of took over.
I have 0 navy, but my army buttfucks everyone.

This game is the fucking best, played it on airplane rides and during a power outage in NE US. +50 hours and not a single one wasted.

[image loading]
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 19:18:55
November 13 2011 19:18 GMT
#1473
you have 14k gold and maxed magistrates, l2 macro dood
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
November 13 2011 19:38 GMT
#1474
On November 13 2011 19:56 Simberto wrote:
I just noticed that we have more than double the length of the Civ5 Thread. So, basically, we rock.


Civ 5 was a joke. graphics where pretty but its so full casual its a fucking disgrace.

I'll go back to my teutonic empire (I beat the polish hammer :D) after I try out a good austrian run that looks sexy.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Jhohok
Profile Joined December 2010
United States71 Posts
November 13 2011 21:02 GMT
#1475
On November 14 2011 04:18 turdburgler wrote:
you have 14k gold and maxed magistrates, l2 macro dood

hey hey hey I've been busy killing the shitton of rebels that spring up, I reckon there were 40 groups at one point, 43% chance of revolt.
Plus I've been saving magistrates for the big cultural tradition thingies
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
November 13 2011 22:54 GMT
#1476
On November 14 2011 06:02 Jhohok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 04:18 turdburgler wrote:
you have 14k gold and maxed magistrates, l2 macro dood

hey hey hey I've been busy killing the shitton of rebels that spring up, I reckon there were 40 groups at one point, 43% chance of revolt.
Plus I've been saving magistrates for the big cultural tradition thingies


Why don't you put auto hunt rebels on on every stack you got?
Jhohok
Profile Joined December 2010
United States71 Posts
November 14 2011 00:30 GMT
#1477
On November 14 2011 07:54 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 06:02 Jhohok wrote:
On November 14 2011 04:18 turdburgler wrote:
you have 14k gold and maxed magistrates, l2 macro dood

hey hey hey I've been busy killing the shitton of rebels that spring up, I reckon there were 40 groups at one point, 43% chance of revolt.
Plus I've been saving magistrates for the big cultural tradition thingies


Why don't you put auto hunt rebels on on every stack you got?

The problem arises when you have about 40 rebel stacks and you only have around 5-6 stacks of 10-15k hunting rebels AND you are fighting a (previously) multi-front war. War Exhaustion increased national revolt risk by mofo 19%, which creates a shit ton of neverending rebels. The rebels eventually take some provinces, as 5-6 stacks can't kill fast enough for all of them. Then, when they siege a rebel province, that is where I have to swoop in and make them assault the province instead of wasting a whole year sitting there.

The exact thing is happening to me right now as I'm fighting a Castille-Russia-Portugal alliance, about 180k HRE vs 300k C-R-P. Fuckin rebels and castillians and russians and portugese
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13931 Posts
November 14 2011 02:17 GMT
#1478
What do I do for presteige? is there some secret that I'm not getting about how to do anything at all about it?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 14 2011 02:24 GMT
#1479
On November 14 2011 11:17 sermokala wrote:
What do I do for presteige? is there some secret that I'm not getting about how to do anything at all about it?


You can get a metric-fuck-ton of Prestige from wars.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 14 2011 03:58 GMT
#1480
On November 14 2011 11:17 sermokala wrote:
What do I do for presteige? is there some secret that I'm not getting about how to do anything at all about it?


winning battles, controlling rome, mecca and jeruselem, being the emperor. certain culture decisions give a short term prestige boost
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