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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 13:28:45
November 03 2011 13:27 GMT
#1361
On November 03 2011 18:15 beef42 wrote:
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On November 03 2011 06:37 Caller wrote:
I wrote a really good post for this bit of the AAR but I lost it three times so I'm assuming it's divine will that I don't write this bit of the AAR up. I will let the pictures speak for themselves.

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So what's next for Navarre? Judging by the year you should be able to take QFTNW by now, and that seems to be the easiest way to get some more land. Of course the easiest way is rarely the most fun...

The Basque people were one of the first ones in Europe. Why should we have to go somewhere else? ^_^

more importantly though, since in Death and Taxes, Navarre doesn't have a port, so I have to wait 50 years to start colonizing. During this time Castille and Portugal will just start eating everything up. So I will let them have fun with their colonizing. Good use of their resources, investing in far away colonies, heh heh heh...
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6243 Posts
November 03 2011 21:50 GMT
#1362
Anyone tried out MEIOU mod? I'm thinking about trying it out.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 03 2011 22:17 GMT
#1363
On November 04 2011 06:50 RvB wrote:
Anyone tried out MEIOU mod? I'm thinking about trying it out.

halfway between shitsandgiggles death and taxes vs. completely different game magna mundi
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 03 2011 23:21 GMT
#1364
On November 03 2011 17:59 Velr wrote:
@Caller
Yeah, i realized that when some rebells took Lombardia once (no more colonizing? hu? why? :p).
[...]


If rebels / enemies block the paths between your capital and the colonists target you can't send it.
You notice this quickly when fighting the golden horde and they put a couple of men on a land strip you own.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
November 05 2011 18:20 GMT
#1365
Is there any way of making sure Ottomas does not DoW me as Bysantium? Restarted 4 times now, usually I manage to conquer 5 or 6 provinces from random nations in Minor Asia and the Balkans, but the Ottomans always seem to take me down sooner or later.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 05 2011 18:23 GMT
#1366
On November 06 2011 03:20 dranko wrote:
Is there any way of making sure Ottomas does not DoW me as Bysantium? Restarted 4 times now, usually I manage to conquer 5 or 6 provinces from random nations in Minor Asia and the Balkans, but the Ottomans always seem to take me down sooner or later.

kill them first, duh
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dranko
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden378 Posts
November 05 2011 18:25 GMT
#1367
On November 06 2011 03:23 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:20 dranko wrote:
Is there any way of making sure Ottomas does not DoW me as Bysantium? Restarted 4 times now, usually I manage to conquer 5 or 6 provinces from random nations in Minor Asia and the Balkans, but the Ottomans always seem to take me down sooner or later.

kill them first, duh


Not sure how i would go about doing that.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 05 2011 18:29 GMT
#1368
On November 06 2011 03:25 dranko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:23 Caller wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:20 dranko wrote:
Is there any way of making sure Ottomas does not DoW me as Bysantium? Restarted 4 times now, usually I manage to conquer 5 or 6 provinces from random nations in Minor Asia and the Balkans, but the Ottomans always seem to take me down sooner or later.

kill them first, duh


Not sure how i would go about doing that.

YOU ARE A NATION THAT IS THE ROMAN SPIRIT INCARNATE. YOU ARE THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION, WITH THE ETERNAL CITY IN YOUR POSSESSION. YOUR EMPIRE HAS LASTED OVER 1800 YEARS. AND YOU'RE LETTING SOME BARBARIC NOMADS CONTROL YOU? TO ARMS, I SAY, TO ARMS!
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 05 2011 18:32 GMT
#1369
On November 06 2011 03:29 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:25 dranko wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:23 Caller wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:20 dranko wrote:
Is there any way of making sure Ottomas does not DoW me as Bysantium? Restarted 4 times now, usually I manage to conquer 5 or 6 provinces from random nations in Minor Asia and the Balkans, but the Ottomans always seem to take me down sooner or later.

kill them first, duh


Not sure how i would go about doing that.

YOU ARE A NATION THAT IS THE ROMAN SPIRIT INCARNATE. YOU ARE THE CRADLE OF CIVILIZATION, WITH THE ETERNAL CITY IN YOUR POSSESSION. YOUR EMPIRE HAS LASTED OVER 1800 YEARS. AND YOU'RE LETTING SOME BARBARIC NOMADS CONTROL YOU? TO ARMS, I SAY, TO ARMS!


LOL
malignant
Profile Joined August 2011
United States35 Posts
November 05 2011 21:35 GMT
#1370
Could you guys give me some advice on playing one of the Italian OPM ?

I usually play German OPM, especially Frankfurt who is a trading powerhouse due to their government type. When playing as Mantua my merchants seldom gains a foothold at the CoT and even if they did, they would get kicked out pretty soon.

A gamble with taking loan, hiring mercenaries and trying to annex might work. But it is such a risky strategy and I prefer a safer, more methodical approach.

Edit: this is on very hard, DW 5.1 patch, no mods
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 05 2011 22:14 GMT
#1371
On November 06 2011 06:35 malignant wrote:
Could you guys give me some advice on playing one of the Italian OPM ?

I usually play German OPM, especially Frankfurt who is a trading powerhouse due to their government type. When playing as Mantua my merchants seldom gains a foothold at the CoT and even if they did, they would get kicked out pretty soon.

A gamble with taking loan, hiring mercenaries and trying to annex might work. But it is such a risky strategy and I prefer a safer, more methodical approach.

Edit: this is on very hard, DW 5.1 patch, no mods

mint like crazy and annex people.

alternatively, trade to victoly
really as a small nation you're limited in many ways so you might as well
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Omsomsoms
Profile Joined September 2011
Croatia194 Posts
November 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#1372
So I started as Munster and I've unified Ireland at about 1410, where should I head now? Should I try to go for colonization, or trading in Europe?
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 05 2011 23:06 GMT
#1373
This sounds like an extraordinary deep game. The only game close to this I've played is Rome Total War, so I guess you could consider me a Noob at this type of game. Would it be worth picking up? It sounds really really intriguing, but also extremely hard and complicated D:
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fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
November 05 2011 23:14 GMT
#1374
Took me 3 or 4 games (I died before 1450 most of the time) to really understand the things that get you killed the most in the game. I didn't read the whole thread but be careful when you are at war for a long time. If the war drags on for too long your population starts to revolt which is very annoying!! Also don't annex provinces if it costs you too much infamy (6 or something like that) it's really not worth it and the computer will do what it can to get it back.
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
November 05 2011 23:35 GMT
#1375
Yeah, I remember that it took me a couple of tries as well before I even got a clue of what to do :D

If you are new, you properly want to start as France or someone else a little easier than Holland etc :p

other than that use:
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Main_Page
and
http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Country_guides
"Yeah buddy"
unsmart
Profile Joined April 2009
United States322 Posts
November 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#1376
Yeah, took me a lot of games to figure things out. I'm still learning a lot of the ins and outs of the game. Unlike a Total War game it is very easy to start a World War in this game. And unlike in Total War, chances are you aren't going win when everyone declares war on you (unless you're France).


Recently started a game as the Papal State. Pretty fun so far, before the game unpaused I declared war and attacked the OPM nearest me, seeing that he had no allies, no guarantees, and wasn't a member of the empire. Got lucky and got cores in Naples, Tuscany and a few of the northern OPMs. Waited for Tuscany to get dragged into a war, joined in, and took territory. Same with Naples when France decided to declare war on them, made them a vassal and then annexed. My next target is Sicily or the fake Popes. Problem with the Fake Pope is that they are protected by France, who is a monster in this game. Sicily is weak but I want a CB, and while I am the Papal Controller I have to wait for them to get lower influence so I can excommunicate them.

You get crazy amounts of Magistrates as Papal State. Also a lot of the Italian provinces have universities. It's also really easy to keep control of the Pope and manipulate things so you can excommunicate anyone you want to attack.

Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
November 05 2011 23:49 GMT
#1377
For you new people:

I'm willing to go do a very minor AAR to potentially help you out? I'll do someone relatively easy, and go through to show the ropes a bit? If you newer people would want, I wouldn't want to put in this effort if only one person will read it or something.

Also, basic hints:

Turn off Lucky Nations. Stops Spain/France/England/Austria/Ottomans/Sweden/Muscowvy from blobbing up and winning every. single. game. Basically LN gives those countries, and a few others I can't remember unreal bonus' that basically make them unbeatable unless it's you fighting them, and even then it's a bitch. Second, turn on High Aggression. Makes for some interesting worlds near the end of the game. Tis' real fun.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11589 Posts
November 06 2011 00:04 GMT
#1378
On November 06 2011 08:06 Aocowns wrote:
This sounds like an extraordinary deep game. The only game close to this I've played is Rome Total War, so I guess you could consider me a Noob at this type of game. Would it be worth picking up? It sounds really really intriguing, but also extremely hard and complicated D:


You described the game pretty well. If that sound appaling to you, you should pick it up. Basically, according to steam i have clocked 300 hours of it so far, and still every time i play a new game i understand something better afterwards. However, once you get the hang of the basics, it is not really that hard anymore. But still fun.

Also, it really is not like Total War. TW is a game about tactical battles, with a strategic part added to it to give context to the battles. For EU, the focus is on pure strategy. This also means that the strategical part is much more developed in this game. I would recommend it, but i also recognize that it is not a game for everyone.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
November 06 2011 08:47 GMT
#1379
I remember playing a Navarra game once where i tried to turn whole of Spain into basque culture, at 1650 I kinda realized I cannot make it because it just took so long, I think I've assimilated about 8 or 10 provinces in that time :/
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11589 Posts
November 06 2011 22:18 GMT
#1380
You could try working with this event:

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Cultural_Assimilation

You should be able to get the MTTH very low if you have Divine Supremacy + Church Attendance Duty, High Serfdom, High Stability, move your National Focus accordingly, and don't take any wimpy tolerance stuff.
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