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anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
August 01 2011 14:17 GMT
#541
well, no matter what country, i usually employ lvl 6 or 5 master of mint the moment i can, that is if his monthly cost is lower than what i get from minting the ammount he allows
most of the time this works pretty well except when he suddenly dies and i'm low on cultural tradition and in middle of war
Imagine a place where the Alps meet the Mediterranean, where you can pick autumn fruits in the morning, bathe in the Adriatic in the afternoon, and go night skiing in the evening…It’s Slovenia!
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 16:00:50
August 01 2011 15:58 GMT
#542
The "best" way is to keep your economy in such a shape that you won't need to mint at all. For example a country like Denmark. They start tiny, but have the Sound Toll which makes them profit from trading. They also have to have a standing army well over their forcelimits to keep Sweden from breaking the personal union.

So what do? Grab the National Trade Policy idea and get 5 merchants into Lübeck. (And everywhere else for that matter, but Lübeck is most important.) You will now be shitting money despite never minting.

Of course this won't work for all countries. Infamy ruins your compete chance, so you will have to have some sort of backup plan in case you want to wage offensive wars.

Remember, even if you have monthly deficits, your yearly tax income should equalise this. Mouseover the gold coins on the top bar to see your net yearly income.

Another, simpler solution is to simply play on Very Easy. It gives you .50% free yearly inflation reduction, allowing you to mint your ass off.... but this is cheating isn't it.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 16:34:08
August 01 2011 16:31 GMT
#543
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2011 16:48 GMT
#544
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.



The thing is that The Golden Horde is a nomadic people, they don't have big cities with castles.
They move around
"Yeah buddy"
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#545
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.


The entire reason nomadic horse tribes were so difficult for the civilized nations to defeat was because they did not have any infrastructure to attack. There were not "defense structures." And the Eurasian steppe was a hell of a lot bigger than 10% of the world historically. I don't know about the game, since i haven't played it yet.

But yeah, Eurasian steppe is a wasteland. It's mostly just grass and fresh water and mountains. Sounds like a brilliant portrayal if they're making it super difficult to annex.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
August 01 2011 18:24 GMT
#546
On August 02 2011 02:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.


The entire reason nomadic horse tribes were so difficult for the civilized nations to defeat was because they did not have any infrastructure to attack. There were not "defense structures." And the Eurasian steppe was a hell of a lot bigger than 10% of the world historically. I don't know about the game, since i haven't played it yet.

But yeah, Eurasian steppe is a wasteland. It's mostly just grass and fresh water and mountains. Sounds like a brilliant portrayal if they're making it super difficult to annex.


On August 02 2011 01:48 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.



The thing is that The Golden Horde is a nomadic people, they don't have big cities with castles.
They move around



Except in game they do have defenses built in every territory. If you want to argue for realism, take out the forts so its more like the African nations. It still slows down progress but I don't have to siege useless forts at the same time.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 01 2011 18:44 GMT
#547
On August 02 2011 03:24 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.


The entire reason nomadic horse tribes were so difficult for the civilized nations to defeat was because they did not have any infrastructure to attack. There were not "defense structures." And the Eurasian steppe was a hell of a lot bigger than 10% of the world historically. I don't know about the game, since i haven't played it yet.

But yeah, Eurasian steppe is a wasteland. It's mostly just grass and fresh water and mountains. Sounds like a brilliant portrayal if they're making it super difficult to annex.


Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:48 Ramong wrote:
On August 02 2011 01:31 BloodNinja wrote:
On August 01 2011 21:22 Skilledblob wrote:
On August 01 2011 15:30 BloodNinja wrote:
Small rage/rant - Fighting against hordes is re-fucking-diculous. I have to colonize every fucking province 1 by 1 with latin fucking tech and near (if not sub) 50% colonize chances on any given territory.

Ugh, this jsut comes across as lazy game design and the first major issue I have had in this game.


why should that be lazy design. You want the lazy design. The system how it works in EU3 is closer to reality then what you want. Or can you tell me how you want to conquer empty provinces which have no cities? ^^


Its not like there is nothing in these territories. Occupying those territories would involve occupying said defense structures. Just like 90% of the rest of the map. This isn't some barren wasteland with nothing in it or an area previously uninhabited. Ahhhh rage, rage, rage, rage, rage.



The thing is that The Golden Horde is a nomadic people, they don't have big cities with castles.
They move around



Except in game they do have defenses built in every territory. If you want to argue for realism, take out the forts so its more like the African nations. It still slows down progress but I don't have to siege useless forts at the same time.


Golden Hord fortresses have so low moral you dont even have to siege them
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 01 2011 19:13 GMT
#548
On August 01 2011 09:27 Ramong wrote:
So I am playing as Castile, annexed Portugal and Aragon, had Flanders(3 provinces) as vassal and an alliance with France, who owned all of France and Burgundy, plus some vassals.
Suddenly Austria declared war on France, and France called for my help.

I thought to myself that, yeah why not Flanders could go and help France some. I believed that France with its vassals and Flanders could take Austria who wasn't that big, but Emperor, so I did not look at the war at all.

Then suddenly I got the message that a province has lost a siege, I looked at France an saw that it was mostly taken over by Austria and that Austria had begun attacking me with 60+ soldiers, and I had 25..

Had to release Flanders and annul alliance with France.
France got an even worse deal, it had to release 8 or so nations who then was allied with Austria..

Good thing that I am still the only 1 with QFTNW and all ready have most of the Carabian and middle America


This is France about 50 year and another war with Austria later:
[image loading]

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

So, I decided that I had to do something about Austria, well because Austria liberated the small countries from France next to my border I was able to join The Holy Roman Empire.

I then got good relations with the electors and became Emperor.
I began a war against all the small provinces of France and made most of them my vassals.

Now, I am building up for a big war with Austria
"Yeah buddy"
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 20:36:13
August 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#549
On August 01 2011 02:41 YourMom wrote:
Neat game but I have like over 40% inflation 50 years in lol. Is it FUBAR ? :D


Nope ;P I have ~71% in my current game (even though I got National Bank and lvl 6 Master of Mint early on). But I was kinda forced to mint because I play on Very Hard difficulty with agressive AI. It's not entirely fair since among many things the AI gets 50% more tax income, gets more morale and quicker war exhaustion reduction and I have reduced infamy limit and morale. When you are constantly being torn apart by Austria/Bohemia/Hansa/Denmark/Golden Horde (playing as Poland) and your war exhaustion gets high your income is so low you won't survive for long. But it's year 1620 right now and I've managed to beat everyone on the continent into submission (except France with which I had no conflict ever) and carve myself a big empire in Central Europe (I also colonised a lot of horde provinces to the east). By accident I've become the Emperor even though I'm not a part of the HRE ;P It's because I got three vassals who are the electors... those HRE buffs are nice but I don't even need such a big army (even w/o them I have ~150k standing army and thats contained to a small area compared to GB for example). I forgot to mention that I've build up Lithuania into a mighty sidekick - helped me along with the smaller vassals in cleaning the Rebels and/or seiging provinces. My tech sucks compared to others around me except Land which is on the same level (put almost everything into it). I'm trying to lower my inflation since I have one of the highest income now but it's like 3 times less than what France is making ;P I have almost exclusively cores and converted to Protestant for the income buff. Stability is a bitch though...

Damn this game is so much fun but I wish there was a high difficulty mode w/o all those unfair buffs for the AI...

Also what I found fun were the so-called 'stab-hits'. In one of my wars against GB even when I controlled all of their provinces on mainland and had a warscore around 50% they still wouldn't yield (because of their superior fleet and I had zero offensive ships just 12 transports so I couldn't invade their homeland). So when Sueing for Peace you set your goals as high as it still says that 'these terms are less than what they are expecting' and do it several times until they can no longer decline and will accept. It's because each time they refuse such an offer their stability drops by 1 and when it gets to -3 they can no longer refuse and have to accept your terms.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 01:33:06
August 02 2011 01:08 GMT
#550
So I've been playing as Venice trying to create some sort of trade empire. Only problem is whenever I get low on money it seems I automatically take out a loan. How do I prevent this/manage my money better?

I'm a complete noob so be easy :p
For The Swarm!
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 02 2011 01:51 GMT
#551
On August 02 2011 10:08 MadVillain wrote:
So I've been playing as Venice trying to create some sort of trade empire. Only problem is whenever I get low on money it seems I automatically take out a loan. How do I prevent this/manage my money better?

I'm a complete noob so be easy :p


well you could start by not spending so much money

JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
August 02 2011 03:03 GMT
#552
Query:

Has anyone "won" (taken over all of europe etc) with Byzantium on Very hard difficulty + Very hard aggro? (normal inflation/colonist/missionary/merchant etc all the original settings)

I swear some nations are just-so-poor and mired in poverty / ready to be annihilated. Or for that matter, as a German minor... i.e. Friesland / utrecht.

I've just dumped around 40 hours into this game and worked out most things, but the economy seems a little difficult. Like you are always losing money per month, having to rely on the annual tax bonus to give you a barely positive income.
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
August 02 2011 03:19 GMT
#553
On August 02 2011 12:03 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Query:

Has anyone "won" (taken over all of europe etc) with Byzantium on Very hard difficulty + Very hard aggro? (normal inflation/colonist/missionary/merchant etc all the original settings)

I swear some nations are just-so-poor and mired in poverty / ready to be annihilated. Or for that matter, as a German minor... i.e. Friesland / utrecht.

I've just dumped around 40 hours into this game and worked out most things, but the economy seems a little difficult. Like you are always losing money per month, having to rely on the annual tax bonus to give you a barely positive income.


I re created the 2nd century imperial borders with those settings before DW came out, came down to getting lucky with Ottomans collapsing early on. alternatively you can mint like crazy, take cyprus and the other islands for manpower and gold and then hope for a stack wipeout on an Ottoman army or sufficient WE for them to collapse under rebels
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 02 2011 11:37 GMT
#554
On August 02 2011 13:13 Ramong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:13 Ramong wrote:
On August 01 2011 09:27 Ramong wrote:

So I am playing as Castile, annexed Portugal and Aragon, had Flanders(3 provinces) as vassal and an alliance with France, who owned all of France and Burgundy, plus some vassals.
Suddenly Austria declared war on France, and France called for my help.

I thought to myself that, yeah why not Flanders could go and help France some. I believed that France with its vassals and Flanders could take Austria who wasn't that big, but Emperor, so I did not look at the war at all.

Then suddenly I got the message that a province has lost a siege, I looked at France an saw that it was mostly taken over by Austria and that Austria had begun attacking me with 60+ soldiers, and I had 25..

Had to release Flanders and annul alliance with France.
France got an even worse deal, it had to release 8 or so nations who then was allied with Austria..

Good thing that I am still the only 1 with QFTNW and all ready have most of the Carabian and middle America


This is France about 50 year and another war with Austria later:
[image loading]

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

So, I decided that I had to do something about Austria, well because Austria liberated the small countries from France next to my border I was able to join The Holy Roman Empire.

I then got good relations with the electors and became Emperor.
I began a war against all the small provinces of France and made most of them my vassals.

Now, I am building up for a big war with Austria

Follow up



So after I make most of the French provinces my vassals, I suddenly get the messages that I entered an Union with Great Britain who at the time was in a war with Austria.

I then get involved in this war against my will and gets leadership.
Still being high on war exhaustion I quickly make a white peace.

20 year would pass before Bohemia request my aid against Austria.
This time with some preparation, the help of Bohemia and me being Emperor, I am able to make Austria release some 2 small nations!

I am now building up for the last and deciding war with Austria.
Later I have to do something about Ottomans who own most of Asia !
"Yeah buddy"
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
August 02 2011 14:04 GMT
#555
How do you guys set the difficulty? I thought the "difficulty" just came with whatever country you picked.
BeigeVolvo
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway17 Posts
August 02 2011 14:15 GMT
#556
On August 02 2011 23:04 Igakusei wrote:
How do you guys set the difficulty? I thought the "difficulty" just came with whatever country you picked.


Difficulty is set before you start the game in the options tab in the lower right part of the screen. It gives the AI advantages and some disadvantages for you. You can also set AI aggressiveness, which is part of the difficulty in some situations.

Personally, I think normal difficulty is the way to go, as it puts you on almost equal footing to the AI in terms of game mechanics. Higher difficulty gives the AI insane bonuses, which leads to really weird situations imo. And unless you play a really small country, I believe setting the AI to aggressive actually makes the game easier, as the overall economy will suffer greatly if the AI is really aggressive.
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
August 02 2011 20:17 GMT
#557
How is it the AI manages to get multiple alliances in the middle of a war? Numerous times I think I've had a war go my way and then suddenly a whole bunch of countries get on the side of the AI to gang up on me, then the allies of those countries join up and suddenly I'm fighting all of Europe! When that happens I try to make alliances my self but no one ever seems to want to help. I'll throw money, offer royal marriages, anything to improve my relations but because I'm in the middle of a war there is only so much money and diplomats I can be sending at a time. How is the AI able to pull it off?

It's reached the point now where I'm afraid to go to war with anyone for fear that I will end up biting more than I can chew.
King takes Queen
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 20:21:11
August 02 2011 20:20 GMT
#558
It is really, really hard to get alliances in the middle of a war.

I am not sure how the AI pulls it off, but it does indeed seem like they can get more allies than humans :p

It could also very well be that what you describe about suddenly getting declared war upon by a third part, is indeed a third part.
The AI of sees you at war with another AI and declare war on you. Only thing you can do is not to seem weak and have to bad reputation or high infamy
"Yeah buddy"
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 20:25:55
August 02 2011 20:24 GMT
#559
On August 03 2011 05:17 e4e5nf3 wrote:
How is it the AI manages to get multiple alliances in the middle of a war? Numerous times I think I've had a war go my way and then suddenly a whole bunch of countries get on the side of the AI to gang up on me, then the allies of those countries join up and suddenly I'm fighting all of Europe! When that happens I try to make alliances my self but no one ever seems to want to help. I'll throw money, offer royal marriages, anything to improve my relations but because I'm in the middle of a war there is only so much money and diplomats I can be sending at a time. How is the AI able to pull it off?

It's reached the point now where I'm afraid to go to war with anyone for fear that I will end up biting more than I can chew.


I've got this same problem in my Austria game and would like to know the answer.

I have 0.0 infamy and a leader with like 5 or 6 diplomatic skill at least, and high relations with a country, not at war, yet it's always just "impossible" or "very unlikely" when I try to ally anyone. Nations I don't have high relations with are always "impossible" as well.

No clue. What else could be affecting their choice to not ally me besides infamy, diplomatic skill, current wars, and relations? It's at the point now where I've basically got to fight England, France, Russia, Spain, and North Germany any time I go to war, and they never seem to fight each other anymore. Year is around 1717.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
August 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#560
Well, countries usually refuse to make an alliance with you if your other allies is and enemy or and enemy of the country you try to ally's allies! (If you can follow) :D

If you are fighting France, as Austria and Russia declare war on you, it don't mean that they (France and Russia) are allies.
It just mean that Russia want to kill you and find it a good time to attack when you all ready are at war.

It is properly 2 different alliances that you are fighting.
Try to make a white peace with 1 of the alliances and destroy the other!
"Yeah buddy"
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