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On July 14 2011 03:46 bdictkam wrote:
Skillbob ive already posted twice that i do focus techs.. usually just one.. just it takes me at lvl7 3700 points to level my lvl 8 is 6000... i think its just polands starting sliders are not geared towards teching and ive only had 4 opportunities to move them so far, i put 2 in freetrade [to get my cots rolling] and rest so far in centeralize and opposite of serfdom
the problem with Poland is that it is a big country because it is together with Lithunia. But on the other side it is really poor and starts with a big army that uses up a lot of money. So your tech costs are influenced by the number of provinces you own + the slider for innovative and narrowminded. And I think Poland belongs to the east european group which makes the technologies more expensive again.
In the beginning you will always lag behind the AI controled countries but as the game progresses you will see a fast increase in your own monetary situation and then you will overtake the other countries.
I'd advise you to focus on getting your centralisation maxed as soon as possible and after that you can do what ever you prefer. I usually do a mix of innovative and the trade slider. But I tend to get a lot of events which improve my inovative slider so most of the time I use the slider for free trade.
you guys really have to be more patient. One game spans over 350 years so there is a lot of time to do what ever you want.
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Something im noticing that is quickly reducing the fun factor of the game, after i stablized i started to get an advantage and any small advantage keeps getting bigger, other then tech im pretty much crushing the AI around me, and i just see this snowballing...
Seems once u get out of the hole this game is too easy... i like the struggle at the start, but after that u seem invincible i tend to just fast forward through battles now, even though im behind on tech and my units arent as good i have tons of manpower to refill and frankly no one can stop me...
Is there grand stradegy games out there that are back and forth more? What do u guys think of victoria 2, or ironhearts3? Or is this one considered the best and most polished?
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I never played HoI 3 but in HoI 2 the only nation I ever really enjoyed playing was Germany.
Victoria games are really fun too, but very different. I really hate the trench warfare Victoria turns into around the 1900s-1920s though, never was a fan of that era.
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On July 14 2011 06:20 bdictkam wrote:
Something im noticing that is quickly reducing the fun factor of the game, after i stablized i started to get an advantage and any small advantage keeps getting bigger, other then tech im pretty much crushing the AI around me, and i just see this snowballing...
Seems once u get out of the hole this game is too easy... i like the struggle at the start, but after that u seem invincible i tend to just fast forward through battles now, even though im behind on tech and my units arent as good i have tons of manpower to refill and frankly no one can stop me...
Is there grand stradegy games out there that are back and forth more? What do u guys think of victoria 2, or ironhearts3? Or is this one considered the best and most polished?
Hearts of Iron 3 is certainly more demanding then EU3
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I enjoyed Victoria II, but it was filled with bugs that caused revolts to be messed up, although I think this was fixed due to a patch. The economy was different, but again it does snowball later on. Also the economy issues, result in a strange phenomena late game where the market is flooded with goods and they are all cheap, but because of that nobody can make any money (it is very strange). I find that each of these games you can spend tons of hours just playing different nations and learning there specific unification events and have a great time. If you guys know of other grand strategy games like this, please let me know too!
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On July 13 2011 07:52 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 07:51 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 04:51 MattBarry wrote:On July 12 2011 16:54 bdictkam wrote:
Yulian, i did focus 100% on 1 or 2 techs, that doesnt matter at all it seems, im in the top 10 for income, and yes some countries have 6-6-6-6 tech while im like 4-5-4-5... thats quite a difference.. something i am missing or ai simply gets tech advantage or start off much more centeralized and whatever other sliders reduce tech cost
Edit- my belief is that some countries sliders are significantly towards reducing tech cost wereas poland start far on the decenteralized scale for example.. Poland is eastern european if I recall correctly. Meaning you get a sizable tech deficit. You need to westernize Poland is in the Eastern techgroup meaning 80% tch Eastern is 90%, Muslim is 80%
I stand corrected.
Just wondering, I really like playing as Denmark (own country and the options for expansions are pretty damn near endless) but the personal union with Sweden and Norway seems rather random. Do you guys know if there are any facts on when kingdoms are united under one faction.
# Also do you max the stability bar to get back to 3? It seems like money sent into tech is more valuable if your ruler contributes enough to the stability.
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I just went from a 100k city to 70k because i keep getting fucked with the census. So i saved the game and tried it 10 times and each time i lost 10% pop. WTF is this bullshit?
Also, how do you deal with religious turmoil?
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On July 14 2011 13:40 nitram wrote:
I just went from a 100k city to 70k because i keep getting fucked with the census. So i saved the game and tried it 10 times and each time i lost 10% pop. WTF is this bullshit?
Also, how do you deal with religious turmoil?
atheism
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On July 14 2011 14:07 rwrzr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 13:40 nitram wrote:
I just went from a 100k city to 70k because i keep getting fucked with the census. So i saved the game and tried it 10 times and each time i lost 10% pop. WTF is this bullshit?
Also, how do you deal with religious turmoil? atheism
How?
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I think if you're full innovative or something along those lines, or have the right tech/buildings a different religion than your official religion will not be enough to cause revolts anyways.
That's how it is in my Spanish game around the 1600's, but I also have the -2 revolt risk idea so that might cover it.
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On July 14 2011 11:06 Advocado wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 07:52 MattBarry wrote:On July 13 2011 07:51 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 04:51 MattBarry wrote:On July 12 2011 16:54 bdictkam wrote:
Yulian, i did focus 100% on 1 or 2 techs, that doesnt matter at all it seems, im in the top 10 for income, and yes some countries have 6-6-6-6 tech while im like 4-5-4-5... thats quite a difference.. something i am missing or ai simply gets tech advantage or start off much more centeralized and whatever other sliders reduce tech cost
Edit- my belief is that some countries sliders are significantly towards reducing tech cost wereas poland start far on the decenteralized scale for example.. Poland is eastern european if I recall correctly. Meaning you get a sizable tech deficit. You need to westernize Poland is in the Eastern techgroup meaning 80% tch Eastern is 90%, Muslim is 80% I stand corrected. Just wondering, I really like playing as Denmark (own country and the options for expansions are pretty damn near endless) but the personal union with Sweden and Norway seems rather random. Do you guys know if there are any facts on when kingdoms are united under one faction. # Also do you max the stability bar to get back to 3? It seems like money sent into tech is more valuable if your ruler contributes enough to the stability.
a personal union starts if you marry with another country and the heir from that marriage becomes king.
And why should the personal union between sweden norway and denmark be random? As far as I know denmark controlled both countries for a long time
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I have a question about the "Limit Sliders" thing. You know that red bar with the arrow shooting out of it, and if you pass it "there will be consequences" or whatever? Is that actually true? How negative are the effects, and are they permanent or just temporary?
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On July 14 2011 18:32 State wrote:
I have a question about the "Limit Sliders" thing. You know that red bar with the arrow shooting out of it, and if you pass it "there will be consequences" or whatever? Is that actually true? How negative are the effects, and are they permanent or just temporary?
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I think every move past the limit adds +1 revolt risk.
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On July 14 2011 16:47 Skilledblob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 11:06 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 07:52 MattBarry wrote:On July 13 2011 07:51 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 04:51 MattBarry wrote:On July 12 2011 16:54 bdictkam wrote:
Yulian, i did focus 100% on 1 or 2 techs, that doesnt matter at all it seems, im in the top 10 for income, and yes some countries have 6-6-6-6 tech while im like 4-5-4-5... thats quite a difference.. something i am missing or ai simply gets tech advantage or start off much more centeralized and whatever other sliders reduce tech cost
Edit- my belief is that some countries sliders are significantly towards reducing tech cost wereas poland start far on the decenteralized scale for example.. Poland is eastern european if I recall correctly. Meaning you get a sizable tech deficit. You need to westernize Poland is in the Eastern techgroup meaning 80% tch Eastern is 90%, Muslim is 80% I stand corrected. Just wondering, I really like playing as Denmark (own country and the options for expansions are pretty damn near endless) but the personal union with Sweden and Norway seems rather random. Do you guys know if there are any facts on when kingdoms are united under one faction. # Also do you max the stability bar to get back to 3? It seems like money sent into tech is more valuable if your ruler contributes enough to the stability. a personal union starts if you marry with another country and the heir from that marriage becomes king. And why should the personal union between sweden norway and denmark be random? As far as I know denmark controlled both countries for a long time
I meant random in how inheritance and unitifications happens. I finally managed to integrate sweden with high prestige.
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Okay, so my Swiss dudes are totally chilling and not killing anyone, except that one time I invaded that one country. I don't have any infamy and ~0.00 prestige, but I really, really want to start expanding into Germany... But it seems as though every country is that region is an alliance whore. When I'm lucky enough to get a CB against a German nation, they happen to be allied to Austria, Burgundy, England, etc. It's a pain in the ass. Any way to circle around that? Advice?
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On July 15 2011 03:05 State wrote:
Okay, so my Swiss dudes are totally chilling and not killing anyone, except that one time I invaded that one country. I don't have any infamy and ~0.00 prestige, but I really, really want to start expanding into Germany... But it seems as though every country is that region is an alliance whore. When I'm lucky enough to get a CB against a German nation, they happen to be allied to Austria, Burgundy, England, etc. It's a pain in the ass. Any way to circle around that? Advice?
invade burgundy
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On July 15 2011 01:03 Advocado wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 16:47 Skilledblob wrote:On July 14 2011 11:06 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 07:52 MattBarry wrote:On July 13 2011 07:51 Advocado wrote:On July 13 2011 04:51 MattBarry wrote:On July 12 2011 16:54 bdictkam wrote:
Yulian, i did focus 100% on 1 or 2 techs, that doesnt matter at all it seems, im in the top 10 for income, and yes some countries have 6-6-6-6 tech while im like 4-5-4-5... thats quite a difference.. something i am missing or ai simply gets tech advantage or start off much more centeralized and whatever other sliders reduce tech cost
Edit- my belief is that some countries sliders are significantly towards reducing tech cost wereas poland start far on the decenteralized scale for example.. Poland is eastern european if I recall correctly. Meaning you get a sizable tech deficit. You need to westernize Poland is in the Eastern techgroup meaning 80% tch Eastern is 90%, Muslim is 80% I stand corrected. Just wondering, I really like playing as Denmark (own country and the options for expansions are pretty damn near endless) but the personal union with Sweden and Norway seems rather random. Do you guys know if there are any facts on when kingdoms are united under one faction. # Also do you max the stability bar to get back to 3? It seems like money sent into tech is more valuable if your ruler contributes enough to the stability. a personal union starts if you marry with another country and the heir from that marriage becomes king. And why should the personal union between sweden norway and denmark be random? As far as I know denmark controlled both countries for a long time I meant random in how inheritance and unitifications happens. I finally managed to integrate sweden with high prestige.
it is not random. You can see a list with all hiers in a tab
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GUYS, GUYS, GUYS! I think I've got it.
SWITZERLAND IS SO IMBALANCED.
Like, seriously. All I did was invade Baden, and I have SECOND HIGHEST NATIONAL INCOME. WTFHOWIMBAISTHAT.
vyyye is going to be SO proud of me.
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On July 15 2011 04:54 State wrote:GUYS, GUYS, GUYS! I think I've got it. Like, seriously. All I did was invade Baden, and I have SECOND HIGHEST NATIONAL INCOME. WTFHOWIMBAISTHAT. vyyye is going to be SO proud of me.
like i said, invade burgandy
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On July 15 2011 04:58 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 04:54 State wrote:GUYS, GUYS, GUYS! I think I've got it. SWITZERLAND IS SO IMBALANCED. Like, seriously. All I did was invade Baden, and I have SECOND HIGHEST NATIONAL INCOME. WTFHOWIMBAISTHAT. vyyye is going to be SO proud of me. like i said, invade burgandy
But they have SO MUCH ARMY! And, like, Austria would totally be mad at me if I did.
EDIT: OH GOD WHY DID I LET AUSTRIA TALK ME INTO THIS TERRIBLE WAR OMGGG
EDIT2: Wow. I totally got the short end of the stick on that one. I lost so much while Austria, my ally, became so much stronger.. And then when I told them I wouldn't go to war with some big guy (I forget who!) they were just like "Fuck off!" and just annexed everything I conquered while I CRUMBLED AND CRIED.
EDIT3: WHERE ARE YOU VYYYE?
EDIT4: And that was the end of Switzerland.
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