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Bidochon
France7 Posts
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On July 15 2011 08:56 Gryffindor_us wrote: After hours of trial and error playing Scotland/Sweden I finally got somewhere with Sweden. I'm only playing on normal but holy shit lol. I finally reclaimed Norway and Halland/Skåne. This is where I'm stuck. I'm rank 5 at this point and I have shit tons of inflation and money - like 15% inflation and 300 ducats. It's 1419 I think. I had a white war with the Teutonic Order and my infamy is nearly at max. I am not too acquainted with how to approach a trade/economic empire though. It seems like it would be a good time for me to just idle and grow my economy and lower inflation. I don't know if I can reasonably get the inflation down to decent levels though without loans/bankruptcy. get an advisor who reduces inflation and you are fine. or you take the National Bank idea which gives you inflation reduction too | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
Race to the first upgrades in infantry and cav, steam roll 1-2 med to large countries and therefore gain massive income, which is pretty much gg from rest of the game Or rush tech and steam roll the CoT's and its gg from there too... I dunno if it blasphamy but i think civ5 was more challanging.. lol I am poland and own like 20 provinces, have .1 inflation and over 1000 ducats with a self made cot in warsaw all settings normal except lucky random and its 1499 ... i dunno if theres any point to playing anything out now, seems like a waste of time :X I think games need clear objectives or its simply too easy to find a way to play the system to a high efficiency and then any goals u self set are simply too easy.. | ||
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Casta
Denmark234 Posts
On July 15 2011 14:47 bdictkam wrote: I asked alot of questions on the forums but this game is super easy to snowball... Race to the first upgrades in infantry and cav, steam roll 1-2 med to large countries and therefore gain massive income, which is pretty much gg from rest of the game Or rush tech and steam roll the CoT's and its gg from there too... I dunno if it blasphamy but i think civ5 was more challanging.. lol I am poland and own like 20 provinces, have .1 inflation and over 1000 ducats with a self made cot in warsaw all settings normal except lucky random and its 1499 ... i dunno if theres any point to playing anything out now, seems like a waste of time :X I think games need clear objectives or its simply too easy to find a way to play the system to a high efficiency and then any goals u self set are simply too easy.. You need to have higher ambitions  I am well over 100 provinces atm, but most are in the new world.A lot of stuff can happen still. I was at war with Castille, England and Austria at the same time as Denmark and they all had massive armies/fleets. A little tech difference don't mean shit if they simply outnumber you alot. I think Civ 5 was too easy which is why I play this now. They are totally different games though. If you feel unchallenged try to start as a more minor nation. Poland has a pretty good start in this game. | ||
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anomalopidae
Slovenia549 Posts
currently playing as brittany, have majority of french territory and 3 decent vassals each of them having 20+ stack of army, have whole USA colonized (approx 500 ducats per year income) yet when my ex friend burgundy or britain attacks me, i'm hard pressed to survive, cause those wars especially with britain last several years in which i accumulate war exhaustion that leads into several uprisings throughout my territory each time a war ends i'm glad if i either got a province or if i only had conceded a province or two | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
As any country other than a European, don't get scared about your tech researching at the speed of ass, Westernise. Just fight your equal country neighbors and expand (try to avoid shitty territories, hold over the "Tax" income and view the Base Income, alot of countries in Africa has a base value 1 compared to many european which have 11, so avoid those and vassal the enemy instead and steal their best provinces.) And when an European finally arrives you should be big enough to not warren being raped by their superior army since they'd rather kill a lesser, leaving you to Westernise as many times as necessary and as fast as possible. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
How do I increase my annual income ?! I am Portugal, year 1513, got 5 colonies in middel America (Cuba etc), have the highest income in the game, twice the size of my nearest competition. Mainly from trade and my colonies. BUT my annual income is still at 50-90 a year, making it hard to build many ships/buildings each year. Is the only way really to put money in the treasury and increase inflation ? | ||
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fush
Canada563 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:50 Krehlmar wrote: Important : As any country other than a European, don't get scared about your tech researching at the speed of ass, Westernise. Just fight your equal country neighbors and expand (try to avoid shitty territories, hold over the "Tax" income and view the Base Income, alot of countries in Africa has a base value 1 compared to many european which have 11, so avoid those and vassal the enemy instead and steal their best provinces.) And when an European finally arrives you should be big enough to not warren being raped by their superior army since they'd rather kill a lesser, leaving you to Westernise as many times as necessary and as fast as possible. playing japan in the current playthrough. gosh it takes forever to unify without taking massive infamy hits, especially when i'm shogun and need to drop 30 points of authority just to declare war. for westernizing, i got lucky with seeing venice through the spread of knowledge and just spent years trying to give away a crappy mainland province (they seem to love taiwan but wasn't gonna give ming the chance to westernize as well). what sucks is that after all this time, i've been getting decent administrative rulers, but right after my first westernization, he dies after only 10 years on the throne and leaves a 12 year regency with an heir with only 3 admin. looks like it'll be a loooonnnnng wait for the next one, lol... On July 15 2011 21:51 Ramong wrote: I got a question. How do I increase my annual income ?! I am Portugal, have the highest income in the game, twice the size of my nearest competition. Mainly from trade and my colonies. BUT my annual income is still at 50-90 a year, making it hard to build many ships/buildings each year. Is the only way really to put money in the treasury and increase inflation ? if you're not at war, lower your army maintenance, if feasible keep trade up in bigger trade centers like lubeck and venezia. it's hard to really get a huge income without trade and/or a huge tax base, which you don't really have as portugal. once you start colonizing though the money should come pouring in. | ||
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Adaptation
Canada427 Posts
On July 15 2011 21:51 Ramong wrote: I got a question. How do I increase my annual income ?! I am Portugal, year 1513, got 5 colonies in middel America (Cuba etc), have the highest income in the game, twice the size of my nearest competition. Mainly from trade and my colonies. BUT my annual income is still at 50-90 a year, making it hard to build many ships/buildings each year. Is the only way really to put money in the treasury and increase inflation ? If it's 1513, i assume your colonies aren't the biggest. So keep playing and it will grow. In terms of advisor's, the trick is too look at the biggest part of your income in the sliders part. It can be a)Taxes b)Production c)Trade d)Tariffs The one that has the biggest amount, get advisor's that increase it more. Don't forget that you only get money out of tariffs if you have enough ship to protect your shipping lanes(it will be shown in %). Workshops, market places and all the buildings that increase income are good but you will only see the profit out of them after around 75 years of gameplay. Make you are always the king of trading and have a stability of 3. Lower the maintenance of the army and especially the navy when not at war(you can put navy at 0 and army 1/4 depending on your rebellion situation) | ||
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Adaptation
Canada427 Posts
On July 15 2011 14:47 bdictkam wrote: I asked alot of questions on the forums but this game is super easy to snowball... Race to the first upgrades in infantry and cav, steam roll 1-2 med to large countries and therefore gain massive income, which is pretty much gg from rest of the game Or rush tech and steam roll the CoT's and its gg from there too... I dunno if it blasphamy but i think civ5 was more challanging.. lol I am poland and own like 20 provinces, have .1 inflation and over 1000 ducats with a self made cot in warsaw all settings normal except lucky random and its 1499 ... i dunno if theres any point to playing anything out now, seems like a waste of time :X I think games need clear objectives or its simply too easy to find a way to play the system to a high efficiency and then any goals u self set are simply too easy.. World conquest with Iroquois, the Knights, Cyprus or Korea. Your not allowed to go over BB limit, reload or declare war without casus belli. Try to pull that off. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On July 15 2011 14:47 bdictkam wrote: I asked alot of questions on the forums but this game is super easy to snowball... Race to the first upgrades in infantry and cav, steam roll 1-2 med to large countries and therefore gain massive income, which is pretty much gg from rest of the game Or rush tech and steam roll the CoT's and its gg from there too... I dunno if it blasphamy but i think civ5 was more challanging.. lol I am poland and own like 20 provinces, have .1 inflation and over 1000 ducats with a self made cot in warsaw all settings normal except lucky random and its 1499 ... i dunno if theres any point to playing anything out now, seems like a waste of time :X I think games need clear objectives or its simply too easy to find a way to play the system to a high efficiency and then any goals u self set are simply too easy.. Well, it's not a hard game once you learn it. Playing as a large Western nation that starts as the head of a personal union is one way to keep the game easy. Try a smaller nation, if even western OPM's are too easy just switch to an OPM outside of the HRE. There's an achievement for world conquest as Ryukyu as well, which seems fucking ridiculous. You have to set your own challenges in Eu3, playing as a large nation will result in you just raping shit eventually. Hell, that tends to happen with anything that starts in western/central Europe. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
I did not know that tariffs required ships to protect my lanes, now I know. Workshops are a little hard, since my problem is that I don't have much spare gold to spent on ships/buidlings and got plenty of buildings to spend the gold on :/ Stability is always 3 and maintenance on low. Yes I guess my colonies are still very small, have my national focus on them, but guess I just have to grow them  thanks Is it worth to change government form ? Still have the one that Portugal starts with | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
I have played Hoi2, Hoi3, Eu2 and Eu3 and that feeling is always the same. For the true challenge you must take your A game to multiplayer ... * * * Multiplayer I have taken part in several MP campaigns for paradox games and have completed many in EU3. Eu3 MP campaigns are not like 20 minutes spent on battlenet or even like 1 hour 30 minute tank fests in broodwar. Nor is this game even like the Civilisation series, whose games can often be over in a weekend. EU3 MP games take seasons to finish. The games themselves can be found in paradox interactives on MP sub-section under there EU3 section within there own forums. The common method is 1 session a week which lasts for 4 hours. Occasionally some campaigns have run bi-weekly. A full campaign (1399-1822) should takes on average roughly 25 sessions. Speed 3 is what MP is played at unless theres major PvP wars occuring in which case it is reduced to speed 2. Pausing is usually banned unless theres some truly massive peace negotiation to be worked out. Games are usually organised by a GM (gamesmaster) and it is common for these games to operate there own house rules to curb abusive/buggy play. Some of these games do operate with elements of roleplay within them. Player numbers dicate how ambious the GM gets with nation allocations. if you have less than 12 people it's best just to keep everyone in Europe. People to spread out leads to certain powers gorwing to fast without sufficent competition. Making sure your majors are played is important. Thats France, Austria, Castile, England, Novgorod/Muscovy and the Ottomans. You can fill in the remainder with Scandinavian states, Portugal, Hollland, a German state, Italian state, Poland, etc. Be careful if you put nations like Aragon, Scotland and Burgundy into a MP game, make sure the players know what they are getting themselves into, a quick "death or glory" situation. From there players can usually pick up non-european states at there leisure. I have no had much experience with divine wind, which has changed a few things, but it's generally ill advised to give anyone the Ming who knows what they are doing. There isolation and huge starting power plus ease to westernise makes them a devasting nation to play. It will also take massive risks and gambles to play as a true weak minor in MP. No one owes you anything, don't expect to be treated nicely because your weak. It requires shrewd, devious and lucky play to take an Irish state and make something of yourself in MP. A word on diplomacy. The balance of power in a EU3 game will sway heavily from nations as the game progress's, as one nations grow strong, other will conspire to bring them down. You will suffer setbacks in a EU3 MP campaign. This isn't like single player where you just auto-save and reload or can rely on the AI reacting in a specefic way. Humans will play dirty. You can be the best player in the world but if you can't make friends (or bribe your enemies) then they'll gang bang the shit out of you 6 to 1 if they don't like what your doing. So I urge those who wish to take the game to the next level, give MP a shot. Here are links to 2 example games played under IN and HTTT. Resurgence - I'm Champa (Hindu 2-province south vietnam starting nation) BWCII - I'm Morocco I have yet to play divine wind MP yet, thinking I might have to make time for it at some point soon. | ||
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Choros
Australia530 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
and I play Austria and am able to keep the seat of the HRE in my hands for the last 100 years. After doing countless wars and fighting back invasions from France and Poland/Lithunia/Mazovia I can finally do the last reform of the Roman empire. And out of the ashes rises the greatest nation in history ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MOnKZ.jpg) 750 Gold yearly income and still have of the provinces are no core provinces so this figure will rise a lot gg | ||
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eNbee
Belgium487 Posts
I started playing on my home region, as everyone does I assume. Too bad for me It's Belgium, so I had to pick Brabant. Can't say it's been easy, after playing 50ish years to get the hang of it I restarted with a cunning plan. After taking Antwerp over from Burgundy, I rushed to monopoly tech, sitting with a monopoly on 6 CoT now, Colonizing almost the entirety of NA and the Caribean. Couldn't expand much in Europe though, soooo hard, I tried a couple times but I got steamrolled. I control somewhere between 75-100 provinces now though, so it's all good, I'll get there. | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
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eNbee
Belgium487 Posts
Does anyone else have the issue where sometimes the game will make your entire computer lockup (Sound stuck on repeat, can't do anything, have to use the button to reset)? I've searched around for a solution, but couldn't find one. It doesn't happen too frequently, but it is sort of annoying when it happens, especially if it's in December of a rather busy year... | ||
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