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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On July 10 2011 07:29 bdictkam wrote: An annoying thing about this game is its impossible to tell when you will be river crossing... the manual says whenever your movement intersects a river.. but i just moved from Ruthenia to Bessarbia which had no river intersection not even close to one and i got a -2 crossing modifer... what the heck ;/ basically you can say when ever you move between 2 provinces of which 1 has a river you will get the crossing modifier. this might not be excatly accurate but it is a good rule of thumb | ||
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bdictkam
Canada155 Posts
Ive tried to search the internet including the paradox forums and tehre doesnt seem to be any clear place which explains how river crossing works... For example i just moved from torun to plock and even though plock has no river but torun does i got modifer... so originated province counts.. But manual says any time movement arrow intersects and in my first case above it didnt.. so is weird I think the actual rule is like u explained, if either the starting province or the province you are attacking has a river, u will get modifer [however sometimes i get 1 sometimes i get 2, i dunno how thats worked out] | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
So I have to take like 2-3 needed provinces at most and then wait 50 years for them to become my core provinces so I dont get prestige and infamy minus anymore because of conquering HRE territory. but slowly and steadily I am working my way towards the goal ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NGaUr.jpg) my world in 1630 | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
This game is terrible so far. | ||
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Tilorn
Serbia75 Posts
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On July 10 2011 11:53 Tilorn wrote: How are you guys making those screenshots of the world? I'd like to post mine. F12, the screenshots are in a "screenshots" subfolder in your EU3 folder. F12 takes a screen of the whole world, as you see in this thread. I believe F11 does a more direct screenshot, but I'm not sure. It might be F10. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
Saved games (autosaves) at 1540... 403mb... what the flying fuck? Seriously 403mb per save? And I'm not even half through the story... jesus christ what takes 403mb?! No seriously! What?! The game should only save NUMBERS! Every province in the game (400+ provinces or whatnot), number of building, number of units, just numbers, all this should still be less than 10mb. Shogun Total War2 saves are at 1-5mb for me. 403 mb?... the fuck... | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On July 10 2011 11:16 Skilledblob wrote: man it takes for ever to form germany because you cant just conquer all the needed territory because the others would just destroy you. So I have to take like 2-3 needed provinces at most and then wait 50 years for them to become my core provinces so I dont get prestige and infamy minus anymore because of conquering HRE territory. but slowly and steadily I am working my way towards the goal my world in 1630 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN. DO NOT FORM GERMANY BEFORE PRUSSIA. THE REFORMS | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:40 Krehlmar wrote: Ok I now know why the game is a lagging piece of shit at times... Saved games (autosaves) at 1540... 403mb... what the flying fuck? Seriously 403mb per save? And I'm not even half through the story... jesus christ what takes 403mb?! No seriously! What?! The game should only save NUMBERS! Every province in the game (400+ provinces or whatnot), number of building, number of units, just numbers, all this should still be less than 10mb. Shogun Total War2 saves are at 1-5mb for me. 403 mb?... the fuck... Mine are 14mb. I heard from another guy in the thread that that shit might happen though. Seems kind of weird, especially as the game itself is tiny when it comes to bit size. On July 10 2011 15:30 MattBarry wrote: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN. DO NOT FORM GERMANY BEFORE PRUSSIA. THE REFORMS What What What? I'm playing as France and trying my best to beat the crap out of Germany.. What's wrong with that? What reforms? The only German reform I know about is the language reform, but that was pretty recent, so I doubt it has anything to do with anything O_O | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On July 10 2011 16:49 Euronyme wrote: Mine are 14mb. I heard from another guy in the thread that that shit might happen though. Seems kind of weird, especially as the game itself is tiny when it comes to bit size. What What What? I'm playing as France and trying my best to beat the crap out of Germany.. What's wrong with that? What reforms? The only German reform I know about is the language reform, but that was pretty recent, so I doubt it has anything to do with anything O_O Prussia before Germany is always a fantastic idea cause Prussia actually has missions and decisions whereas Germany does not. Especially Prussian military reforms which grants army morale, less attrition, and +20% discipline. | ||
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Hjertify
Sweden70 Posts
On July 10 2011 12:40 Krehlmar wrote: Ok I now know why the game is a lagging piece of shit at times... Saved games (autosaves) at 1540... 403mb... what the flying fuck? Seriously 403mb per save? And I'm not even half through the story... jesus christ what takes 403mb?! No seriously! What?! The game should only save NUMBERS! Every province in the game (400+ provinces or whatnot), number of building, number of units, just numbers, all this should still be less than 10mb. Shogun Total War2 saves are at 1-5mb for me. 403 mb?... the fuck... i already wrote that this is a bug that happens with the latest official patch and you should install the latest beta patch. everytime you save the game duplicate in size in the latest official patch i belive. more normal save size is around 20mb. If you have the game registered on forum the link is this: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?545066-Beta-of-5.1-29th-June-2011 for patch you install by simply unziping and then dragging all files to ur eu3 folder and let them replace, can be goood to make a copy of ur eu3 folder before if something would be fucked up with your download. On July 10 2011 11:34 nitram wrote: How is it that when my city is under attack and i send a large army, they instantly lose even though i kill of a couple hundred kills? This is complete bullshit. I split my army apart to start attacking in waves so they can kill off as much as they can in their instant lose attacks. This game is terrible so far. are you even paying your soldiers?, and if your an asian/american/african nation figthing an european nation this is not suprising Does your enemy have land tech 18 and you dont= becouse thats one of the most important tech in game and you dont figth an enemy that has land tech 18 if you do not, its becouse land tech 18 gives soldier guns always look what land tech enemy has before you dow. On July 10 2011 15:30 MattBarry wrote: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN. DO NOT FORM GERMANY BEFORE PRUSSIA. THE REFORMS Prussia has a reform that gives soldiers 25%(or was it 30%) discipline. Discipline x dice is the amount of damage ur soldier deal, moral how many turns they can figth, and then there is leader bonuses terrain bonuses etc. You can see ur discipline in the menu where u recruit generals, its the best decision in game. Forming Germany decision is frreaking imba so its supposed to take time. And about shock and fire people discussed earlier. Early game just go for shock (cavalry) have some infantery for siegeing provinces but thats it cavalry for battles unless you cant afford that many cavalry then mix in infatery. (yes in battle early game 10k cavalry stack is much better then 5k inf 5k cav mix). But later once your infatery start getting some fire shock becomes pritty usless. Now you should have a mix of 10inf and 2calv or 16inf and 4calv reson u still want some calv is becouse they give a bonus in battle but you dont want more then 2-4k late game in ur stacks. When you get cannons the stack you do is 10k inf and 10k cannons and you have some stacks with 16k inf and 4k calv and some stacks with 10k inf and 10k cannons, all this is however aimed more towards multiplayer since thats all i play really in singelplayer you can make ur stacks how you want since ai is bad and there is no need for most optimal stacks. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
I hold over my research window sliders/text and it says 50% efficiency :s | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On July 10 2011 15:30 MattBarry wrote: FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN. DO NOT FORM GERMANY BEFORE PRUSSIA. THE REFORMS dude man I allready did form Prussia ^^ might be hard to see on this map though ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YWMpY.png) ^ click here to see a more close up screenshot On July 10 2011 19:07 Krehlmar wrote: Can someone tell me why I as Khmer have 50% research efficiency ? I hold over my research window sliders/text and it says 50% efficiency :s probably because you have some of the sliders in bad positions. Take a look at them. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On July 10 2011 19:09 Skilledblob wrote: dude man I allready did form Prussia ^^ might be hard to see on this map though probably because you have some of the sliders in bad positions. Take a look at them. Uh yeah.. Which country are you playing as? I assumed it was France O_O | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On July 10 2011 19:10 Euronyme wrote: Uh yeah.. Which country are you playing as? I assumed it was France O_O I would never ever play as france  I started with Brandenburg and am now Prussia  | ||
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Hjertify
Sweden70 Posts
On July 10 2011 19:07 Krehlmar wrote: Can someone tell me why I as Khmer have 50% research efficiency ? I hold over my research window sliders/text and it says 50% efficiency :s its becouse your in the asian/chinease tech group, only fully westernized nations gets 100% tech efficiency, You can however westernize aswell but it can be hard and since your in the asian tech groups there are 3 steps. first westernize to muslim then to eastern then to western i think. | ||
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Sazchu
Iceland489 Posts
On July 10 2011 19:07 Krehlmar wrote: Can someone tell me why I as Khmer have 50% research efficiency ? I hold over my research window sliders/text and it says 50% efficiency :s + Show Spoiler + 1 Western Europe technology group. All of Western Europe is in this group. The Western Europeans don't have any penalty to their research, so they will go the fastest.. Furthermore we get: * A large bonus to our research when other Western technology nations are ahead of us. When a province is explored by a Western Europe nation ---like Portugal---, we discover that province automatically after 50 years ---this can be modified at the beginning of the game. ---the spread of land/sea provinces.--- 2 Eastern Europe technology group. This group contains, like the name suggest, Eastern Europe. Technology is slower researched, as they need to pay 11% more for their technology research. That is, every new research level needs 11% more research points to be completed. So what is bad about that? Well, whoever has the highest technology can easily beat somebody else. On land, on sea but also on an economic level. 3 Ottoman technology group. Yes, the Turks have their own group as they were a 'special case' in the Renaissance. They research their stuff a tiny bit slower than the East Europeans, as their research costs 11,76% more than the Europeans. A very big plus for the Ottomans is that their technology starts at level 6, while the Europeans start at level 3. The Ottomans are almost 75 years ahead at the start of the game. 4 Muslim technology group. The Muslim group contains the entire Middle East and Muslim North African countries. They pay 12,5% more than the Europeans, but like the Turks, they start at level 6. 5 Indian technology group. This means India, not native Americans. The Indians pay 20% more than the Europeans. They don't get compensated as they too start at level 3, like the Europeans. 6 Chinese technology group. This is Asia, I don't know exactly where the borders lie. They need to pay 25% more than the Europeans. Everyone in the Chinese technology group starts at level 3. 7 Sub-Saharan technology group. ---Formerly known as the African group.--- All the nations in Africa are in this group, with the important exception of the Muslim North Africans. They need to pay 50% more for their research. All their technologies start at level 1. It is not possible to build boats if you don't Westernize ---will be explained in a bit.--- 8 New World technology group. This is group is meant to not advance. Even in 1820 they would still be very very very far behind. Every nation in this group ---all the tribes in North and South America--- needs to pay 100% more to advance in research and what's even worse is that they start their technology at level 0. That's right, zero. Plus, they also can't build boats if they don't Westernize at least twice. Found this on the paradox forums last night (havent noticed it being linked here yet) and it's a good read for beginners it seems. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On July 10 2011 19:33 Sazchu wrote: + Show Spoiler + 1 Western Europe technology group. All of Western Europe is in this group. The Western Europeans don't have any penalty to their research, so they will go the fastest.. Furthermore we get: * A large bonus to our research when other Western technology nations are ahead of us. When a province is explored by a Western Europe nation ---like Portugal---, we discover that province automatically after 50 years ---this can be modified at the beginning of the game. ---the spread of land/sea provinces.--- 2 Eastern Europe technology group. This group contains, like the name suggest, Eastern Europe. Technology is slower researched, as they need to pay 11% more for their technology research. That is, every new research level needs 11% more research points to be completed. So what is bad about that? Well, whoever has the highest technology can easily beat somebody else. On land, on sea but also on an economic level. 3 Ottoman technology group. Yes, the Turks have their own group as they were a 'special case' in the Renaissance. They research their stuff a tiny bit slower than the East Europeans, as their research costs 11,76% more than the Europeans. A very big plus for the Ottomans is that their technology starts at level 6, while the Europeans start at level 3. The Ottomans are almost 75 years ahead at the start of the game. 4 Muslim technology group. The Muslim group contains the entire Middle East and Muslim North African countries. They pay 12,5% more than the Europeans, but like the Turks, they start at level 6. 5 Indian technology group. This means India, not native Americans. The Indians pay 20% more than the Europeans. They don't get compensated as they too start at level 3, like the Europeans. 6 Chinese technology group. This is Asia, I don't know exactly where the borders lie. They need to pay 25% more than the Europeans. Everyone in the Chinese technology group starts at level 3. 7 Sub-Saharan technology group. ---Formerly known as the African group.--- All the nations in Africa are in this group, with the important exception of the Muslim North Africans. They need to pay 50% more for their research. All their technologies start at level 1. It is not possible to build boats if you don't Westernize ---will be explained in a bit.--- 8 New World technology group. This is group is meant to not advance. Even in 1820 they would still be very very very far behind. Every nation in this group ---all the tribes in North and South America--- needs to pay 100% more to advance in research and what's even worse is that they start their technology at level 0. That's right, zero. Plus, they also can't build boats if they don't Westernize at least twice. Found this on the paradox forums last night (havent noticed it being linked here yet) and it's a good read for beginners it seems. So what are the exact definitions for this? Is Austria considered eastern europe? is russia considered eastern europe or asia? | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
Saw the thread, got the game, tried several times to get started- never got going due to the sheer amount of options/ information. I have played Hoi religiously but the games have little in common and without any decent tutorial/introduction I never feel like I understand what I'm (supposed to be) doing. There is one attempt at a guide on youtube, but that's just the introduction to the interface (uploader promised more videos, but video is like 6 months old). I'm stuck.  | ||
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