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Hjertify
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden70 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 21:33:33
July 08 2011 21:27 GMT
#201
For people having lag trubbles install latest beta patch, the latest official patch has some bug in it making save files very very big creating some lag issues..

and as few have noted the ai is a moron and the game is only really fun in multiplayer once you start getting a hang of it. The ai cant handle rebels so ai controled nations split up easily, the ai cant handle inflation so later in the game they get outteched like hell. The ai tends to just put there army to siege 1 of your provinces in war so they are pritty easy to handel.
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PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
July 08 2011 22:10 GMT
#202
This game seems pretty complex, especially for a newbie that's never played a grand strategy game before. Is there any game that can give me an easier introduction to the genre? Any tips?
Quote?
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
July 08 2011 22:12 GMT
#203
I found a bug too... seems that u can take out as many loans as u want at a certain interest, but if u change the diplomatic screen and go back only then does the next level of loan interest increase... but if u wanted u could take out 5 loans in a row at 10% if u got them all at once..

rather then 10%,12%,14%... as intended

Once or twice ive gone to the ledger and all my loans suddenly jumped to 20%... weird loan bugginess..

Is this considered the best of the grand stradegy games?
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 22:23:28
July 08 2011 22:23 GMT
#204
On July 09 2011 07:10 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
This game seems pretty complex, especially for a newbie that's never played a grand strategy game before. Is there any game that can give me an easier introduction to the genre? Any tips?


EU is probably the easiest introduction you get compared to the other Paradox Studio games

maybe give total war shogun 2 a try first
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 23:47:40
July 08 2011 23:18 GMT
#205
Hey we're about to play some multiplayer, if your checksum is OJDM get on the logmein hamachi quick to join us!

(we're in the tl.net teamspeak server)
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 23:26:10
July 08 2011 23:25 GMT
#206
Gonna play some EU3 DW with 5.1b beta patch checksum CCOA in the Hamachi mentioned earlier.
Btw I am not able to ping you nor am I able to talk to you on hamachi GGTeMpLaR.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
July 08 2011 23:33 GMT
#207
hey guys, I've been thinking about trying this game, but as I've heard it's difficult to learn.

How is the learning curve though? Is it as difficult as going from D to C on iccup? Are there any sites that give good guides for this game?
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
July 08 2011 23:38 GMT
#208
On July 09 2011 08:33 GhostOwl wrote:
hey guys, I've been thinking about trying this game, but as I've heard it's difficult to learn.

How is the learning curve though? Is it as difficult as going from D to C on iccup? Are there any sites that give good guides for this game?


you have to learn some basic stuff about how to manage your economy but after that a lot of the game is purely situational and depending a lot on what country you play
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
July 09 2011 03:58 GMT
#209
No one has answered me still on which would be better.. both are 0/0fire

Infantry with 1/0 shock and 1/0 moral
OR
Infatry with 0/0 shock and 1/1 moral
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 09 2011 04:27 GMT
#210
On July 09 2011 12:58 bdictkam wrote:
No one has answered me still on which would be better.. both are 0/0fire

Infantry with 1/0 shock and 1/0 moral
OR
Infatry with 0/0 shock and 1/1 moral


No one has answered you because it's not as simple as that. Don't go "What if" because it's not a "what if", it has everything to do with Terrain, Generals talents, Army Tradition, Moral Bar, combination of troops, Troop exhaustion on the tile, who is attacking and defending, etc.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 04:45:39
July 09 2011 04:39 GMT
#211
Ok then rather then what would be better... explain how they are different... how can either be effected by those different circumstances?

-As far i understand the 0/0 shock 1/1 moral inf is just moral buffer for my cav, so during fire and shock on defense they soak up some damage/moral damage... but do pretty much zero themselfs

-And the 1/0 shock 1/0 moral infantry seems only useful for sieging, since 0/0 shock infantry doesnt do any damage pretty much on siege.. might kill like 50 from 1000... but these weak moral shock inf will actualy do siege casuality damage...

But what i want to understand is if u were to pit these 2 types of in against each other on plain ground, same bonuses from generals etc which would beat one another?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 09 2011 04:43 GMT
#212
You can't know because a significant portion of the battles is based on Dice Rolls like in Risk.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
July 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#213
Alright well say they get exactly the same rolls... every single time.. say we take out all randomzation out by getting the same random results.. which would win? This bugs the heck out of me..
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 04:47:43
July 09 2011 04:47 GMT
#214
On July 09 2011 13:46 bdictkam wrote:
Alright well say they get exactly the same rolls... every single time.. say we take out all randomzation out by getting the same random results.. which would win? This bugs the heck out of me..


That's completely irrelevant. It's like saying who would win, unstoppable force or immovable object.

If anything I guess the 1/0 1/0 guy since he's presumably attacking but it's completely irrelevant in actual game sense.
bdictkam
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada155 Posts
July 09 2011 04:57 GMT
#215
I dont think its irrelevant and i dont think either one can be considered a definete like an unstoppable force or immovable object.. what u said didnt make sense...

In equal circumstances one must be better the other other i just wish i could find information as to how when u lose moral during a fight how it effects casualities. As moral doesnt have an damage attribute but low moral units seem to take huge damage so there must be something somewhere about it... does anyone know the actualy specifics?
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 05:44:16
July 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#216
How the heck do you colonize nomads (Timurids, Golden Horde, etc)?

So I am the Ottoman Empire which borders near these guys. It is, by design, absolutely impossible to annex their lands. But there is an option to colonize.

The problem? It says the settler will arrive there in 1915.

1915.

It is currently 1457 for me. This is a territory that borders my Ottoman lands. Half a millennium?

What. The. Hell.

So basically I cannot take over these nomad lands that border me, and instead I can only occupy their forts forever. Can anyone help me get these nomad lands?
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
July 09 2011 08:15 GMT
#217
On July 09 2011 12:58 bdictkam wrote:
No one has answered me still on which would be better.. both are 0/0fire

Infantry with 1/0 shock and 1/0 moral
OR
Infatry with 0/0 shock and 1/1 moral


Maybe this will inform your decision making process

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Military#Supply_Limit

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Morale

Personally, I prefer units with higher morale and try to make big stacks, cavalry first then adding infantry later, but that is my preference.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 09 2011 08:58 GMT
#218
On July 09 2011 17:15 SOB_Maj_Brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 12:58 bdictkam wrote:
No one has answered me still on which would be better.. both are 0/0fire

Infantry with 1/0 shock and 1/0 moral
OR
Infatry with 0/0 shock and 1/1 moral


Maybe this will inform your decision making process

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Military#Supply_Limit

http://www.paradoxian.org/eu3wiki/Morale

Personally, I prefer units with higher morale and try to make big stacks, cavalry first then adding infantry later, but that is my preference.


aye, higher morale will help you win battles but higher shock/fire will make the enemy take more losses; which one is best is probably very situational
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 17:50:57
July 09 2011 17:49 GMT
#219
I just beat the shit out of Bohemia ( dunno if that's the right english word, I mean the big country north of austria ) with Brandenburg

first they attacked my ally Mazovia and then they came for me and I somehow manged to break them after they started splitting up their armys and after I had to train like 20k more soldiers :D

was awesome though.

and my spoils of war are whole of Pommerania, Danzig, a big chunk of Gold and the greatest satisfaction I had so far after beating these assholes

and soon I will be able to form Prussia only thing I need is a leader with 7 diplomacy
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
July 09 2011 18:07 GMT
#220
On July 10 2011 02:49 Skilledblob wrote:
I just beat the shit out of Bohemia ( dunno if that's the right english word, I mean the big country north of austria ) with Brandenburg

first they attacked my ally Mazovia and then they came for me and I somehow manged to break them after they started splitting up their armys and after I had to train like 20k more soldiers :D

was awesome though.

and my spoils of war are whole of Pommerania, Danzig, a big chunk of Gold and the greatest satisfaction I had so far after beating these assholes

and soon I will be able to form Prussia only thing I need is a leader with 7 diplomacy


Good luck getting rid of that infamy.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
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