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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 25 2011 23:29 GMT
#781
On July 26 2011 05:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 04:58 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 26 2011 02:05 Airact wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:20 Stijx wrote:
I played this game a huge amount around release, I played on a team, was one of the first people to unlock the Ubersaw etc... I thought those systems were way better, unlocking weapons etc... The weapons used to be Alternatives instead of upgrades, they were style differences.
I tried to play again recently, and I got completely destroyed by that ridiculous new soldier weapon. As if soldier wasn't the best class already? So unnecessary.

Anyway, for the people above saying you're topping random servers... Everyone good plays on locked servers, or on small population servers. You'll find some amazing people, and mostly bad people on servers like iO Gaming, Newbs, Lotus, Valve etc.



Where did you get from that solly is the best class? It's clearly not.

In my opinion it's pretty much tied to Soldier and Scout which one is the "best" class around.

In competitive TF most teams go 2 Scout 2 Soldier 1 Demo 1 Medic(Is this correct?) in 6v6 with situational classes used from time to time.

Soldier is, in my opinion, the most versatile class around. You are mobile(Rocket Jumping, Equalizer to escape), you do good damage(Rockets, Shotgun on close range deals insane damage) and your health is second only to the Heavy.

Scout on the other hand has insane mobility(Double/Triple Jump, Ludicrous Speed), ridiculous damage output(Scattergun dealing 100+ damage per shot on point-blank) and they can abuse opposing weaknesses(Fight Pyros with 40damage Scatters or with your Pistol, Fight Soldiers on mid-range, Flank Heavies and Demomen).

The other classes just specialize more than these two and possibly the Demoman and that's why I would call the Soldier and the Scout the two "best" classes.

Of course it's very opinion dependant, but I have my reasons to believe that these two are the best classes around.



It's not very dependent on opinion.

When we are talking about insane/ridiculous damage, a demoman, when unpressured, can without much problem do more damage than 2 soldiers in a fight. And that's not even considering a sticky trap. Stickyjumps make him the fastest class, his weapons don't suffer from fall off damage the same way the other classes do and he can lock down an entrance on his own pretty easily. The pipe launcher is one of the best weapons in the game, the sticky launcher is the best weapon in the game.


no falloff on direct hit pipes, but rollers and stickies do indeed have damage falloff


No, rollers do the same damage at any range. The stickies do have fall-off damage for 5 seconds of their life, after that, they deal full damage at any range as well.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
July 25 2011 23:38 GMT
#782
Oh uhhh I have a question. What is the purpose of crates? Are we supposed to buy keys to open them or something? I have like 8 or so crates and have no idea what to do with them.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 23:52 GMT
#783
buy keys to open them
that's it.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
July 26 2011 01:22 GMT
#784
Okay then, so what are crates worth then? I have no interest in buying keys.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
July 26 2011 02:11 GMT
#785
New soldier weapon is a godamn sham
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KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
July 26 2011 02:16 GMT
#786
On July 26 2011 10:22 BloodNinja wrote:
Okay then, so what are crates worth then? I have no interest in buying keys.


It varies wildly depending on what series the crate is.

Apparently the single digit series are relatively valuable, and the most recent (21-27?) are kind of valuable cause they give strange weapons.
However, take my words with a grain of salt, I'm not great in trading.
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
July 26 2011 02:20 GMT
#787
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 26 2011 02:25 GMT
#788
On July 26 2011 10:22 BloodNinja wrote:
Okay then, so what are crates worth then? I have no interest in buying keys.


Crates were introduced as a way for Valve to make more money. You might be able to find someone willing to trade for them on various TF2 trading sites but don't expect much more than very common items in exchange for your crates. Generally crates are either just given away or traded for other crates.

But you could try to go to one of many TF2 trading sites and see if someone is interested...just be careful.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 02:29:07
July 26 2011 02:25 GMT
#789
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S


Everyone loves sniper in every FPS game. Its pretty consistent.


On July 26 2011 11:25 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 10:22 BloodNinja wrote:
Okay then, so what are crates worth then? I have no interest in buying keys.


Crates were introduced as a way for Valve to make more money. You might be able to find someone willing to trade for them on various TF2 trading sites but don't expect much more than very common items in exchange for your crates. Generally crates are either just given away or traded for other crates.

But you could try to go to one of many TF2 trading sites and see if someone is interested...just be careful.


In that case anyone here want to trade for some crates? Rather trade it in community if possible.
Crates #19 (x5), 20, 23 ,25 (x2).
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
July 26 2011 02:27 GMT
#790
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S

It's not uncommon for bad players to fervently believe they are actually great snipers. For some reason, a lot of people tend to believe they have great aim even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Nem0
Profile Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
July 26 2011 07:12 GMT
#791
Ever since the update with the new soldier weapons I have been getting terrible FPS. Anyone know of ways to reduce the explosions sprites or something to reduce the graphics (I have an old laptop that has to run on low everything)
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 26 2011 08:39 GMT
#792
On July 26 2011 01:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 00:45 Existential wrote:
On July 26 2011 00:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ

I'm so jealous of your backpack


You haven't seen anything, this is nothing. Other people have an insane fucking amount.

Oh yeah, I am well aware. But I've been playing TF2 since long before the Spy vs Sniper update came and my backpack looks nothing like that.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 26 2011 17:15 GMT
#793
On July 26 2011 16:12 Nem0 wrote:
Ever since the update with the new soldier weapons I have been getting terrible FPS. Anyone know of ways to reduce the explosions sprites or something to reduce the graphics (I have an old laptop that has to run on low everything)


n0crits should have some lowfps setup.
Get it by your hands...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 26 2011 17:30 GMT
#794
On July 26 2011 17:39 Existential wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 00:45 Existential wrote:
On July 26 2011 00:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ

I'm so jealous of your backpack


You haven't seen anything, this is nothing. Other people have an insane fucking amount.

Oh yeah, I am well aware. But I've been playing TF2 since long before the Spy vs Sniper update came and my backpack looks nothing like that.


Didn't play enough D:<
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32144 Posts
July 26 2011 17:41 GMT
#795
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S


bow hunting is pretty much the best thing ever. I love it. A well timed jarate toss is nice too
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 26 2011 17:44 GMT
#796
I think I enjoy syringe fighting people more than bowhunting.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
July 26 2011 17:45 GMT
#797
On July 27 2011 02:41 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S


bow hunting is pretty much the best thing ever. I love it. A well timed jarate toss is nice too

Best spray ever in TF2 I saw on 4chan server:

"Be a faggot

*catface here*

Play sniper"


Sums it up.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 26 2011 17:51 GMT
#798
On July 26 2011 17:39 Existential wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
On July 26 2011 00:45 Existential wrote:
On July 26 2011 00:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ

I'm so jealous of your backpack


You haven't seen anything, this is nothing. Other people have an insane fucking amount.

Oh yeah, I am well aware. But I've been playing TF2 since long before the Spy vs Sniper update came and my backpack looks nothing like that.


http://www.tf2items.com/id/leetsplosion

\o/

I haven't played since before the game went free to play. I think once Witcher 2 came out I played that and never got back 'into' TF2.

So I smelted my entire backpack into metal, but from the number of metals + paints I have, you should get the idea of what it used to look like. Go into my history, I had 5 unusuals that I gave to clanmates for free.

4 spy unusuals D: lol. Only kept my one. ^^
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 26 2011 17:57 GMT
#799
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S


I found it to be the most satisfying class to play. There is a small sense of accomplishment in every headshot, especially when the dead one is another sniper.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 18:00:16
July 26 2011 17:58 GMT
#800
On July 27 2011 02:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think I enjoy syringe fighting people more than bowhunting.


I keep on forgetting I've got the medic crossbow and that's pretty fun if you're ok with it. I lost my mic though and medic is a pain in the ass without one though

On July 27 2011 02:57 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 11:20 KezseN wrote:
why does everybody love the sniper class so much...? especially in KOTH maps :S


I found it to be the most satisfying class to play. There is a small sense of accomplishment in every headshot, especially when the dead one is another sniper.


also this. I love breaking up medic-assault combos right before they can uber, and picking off that little shithead engi who thinks he found the rocket proof corner for his sentry

wall pinning is sweet.
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