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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 15:17:49
July 25 2011 15:17 GMT
#761
They can receive stuff, yes.
I want a reclaimed ): So I can make the new soldier stuff.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 25 2011 15:21 GMT
#762
you have a hat! youre not beginner!
jk , pm me your steam, we can do it right now
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 15:35:40
July 25 2011 15:35 GMT
#763
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 25 2011 15:36 GMT
#764
gimme free stuff i suck at this game
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 15:40:58
July 25 2011 15:37 GMT
#765
depends on how much you have. made like 40+ keys profit over the last few weeks so ya. i can spare some reclaimeds

nice tho that youre honest and dont wanna take stuff real newbies might need more.


btw do we have any kind of server in eu where some tl people meet sometimes?

/edit k checked your bp. you sure need nothing from me :D

caller, what you need?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 15:40 GMT
#766
If anything is ever started, we usually play on Serejai's server which is NA based or where Paper puts on the site. I don't really play though because all he does is fucking Badwater.

Ah, you're a trader eh? I got out when things were becoming stable and organized.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 25 2011 15:45 GMT
#767
On July 26 2011 00:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ

I'm so jealous of your backpack
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 25 2011 15:47 GMT
#768
started trading few weeks ago shortly after the uber update. im quite good at trading (playd d2 more as a economy sim then a rpg >.>) so my 3 uber weaps and some crates turned into quite the decent amount of hats/metal/keys ~~

trading is fun and you still find awesome deals sometimes if you know the market even with all the pricelists and established currency etc.


guess cant really play on NA servers. scout with 100+ ping isnt fun at all :/. medic/engy should be ok tho..
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 16:01 GMT
#769
On July 26 2011 00:45 Existential wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 00:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm not a newbie at all, so I don't think you should give me anything :B

I have a Nine Iron to trade as well :3

http://www.tf2items.com/id/0825771

I need a backpack expander QQ

I'm so jealous of your backpack


You haven't seen anything, this is nothing. Other people have an insane fucking amount.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 25 2011 16:12 GMT
#770
On July 26 2011 00:36 Caller wrote:
gimme free stuff i suck at this game

huehuehue
FADC
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 16:41:21
July 25 2011 16:40 GMT
#771
On July 25 2011 23:20 Stijx wrote:
I played this game a huge amount around release, I played on a team, was one of the first people to unlock the Ubersaw etc... I thought those systems were way better, unlocking weapons etc... The weapons used to be Alternatives instead of upgrades, they were style differences.
I tried to play again recently, and I got completely destroyed by that ridiculous new soldier weapon. As if soldier wasn't the best class already? So unnecessary.

Anyway, for the people above saying you're topping random servers... Everyone good plays on locked servers, or on small population servers. You'll find some amazing people, and mostly bad people on servers like iO Gaming, Newbs, Lotus, Valve etc.



Where did you get from that solly is the best class? It's clearly not.
Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 17:08:53
July 25 2011 17:05 GMT
#772
On July 26 2011 01:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 23:20 Stijx wrote:
I played this game a huge amount around release, I played on a team, was one of the first people to unlock the Ubersaw etc... I thought those systems were way better, unlocking weapons etc... The weapons used to be Alternatives instead of upgrades, they were style differences.
I tried to play again recently, and I got completely destroyed by that ridiculous new soldier weapon. As if soldier wasn't the best class already? So unnecessary.

Anyway, for the people above saying you're topping random servers... Everyone good plays on locked servers, or on small population servers. You'll find some amazing people, and mostly bad people on servers like iO Gaming, Newbs, Lotus, Valve etc.



Where did you get from that solly is the best class? It's clearly not.

In my opinion it's pretty much tied to Soldier and Scout which one is the "best" class around.

In competitive TF most teams go 2 Scout 2 Soldier 1 Demo 1 Medic(Is this correct?) in 6v6 with situational classes used from time to time.

Soldier is, in my opinion, the most versatile class around. You are mobile(Rocket Jumping, Equalizer to escape), you do good damage(Rockets, Shotgun on close range deals insane damage) and your health is second only to the Heavy.

Scout on the other hand has insane mobility(Double/Triple Jump, Ludicrous Speed), ridiculous damage output(Scattergun dealing 100+ damage per shot on point-blank) and they can abuse opposing weaknesses(Fight Pyros with 40damage Scatters or with your Pistol, Fight Soldiers on mid-range, Flank Heavies and Demomen).

The other classes just specialize more than these two and possibly the Demoman and that's why I would call the Soldier and the Scout the two "best" classes.

Of course it's very opinion dependant, but I have my reasons to believe that these two are the best classes around.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
July 25 2011 18:33 GMT
#773
Think you're overlooking the Demo a bit who do the most damage and have good movespeed and hp. I would say Demo/Scout/Sollys are up there jostling depending on the situation and map.
Get it by your hands...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 25 2011 19:08 GMT
#774
Black guy always wins. The logic?
You can only have one of them on the team, otherwise too op
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32160 Posts
July 25 2011 19:36 GMT
#775
I'm not competitive player like you all, but a good demo is a pain in the fucking ass, perhaps moreso than any other class. This is as far as general playstyle of each race in all situations, not accounting for any particular build or whatever. Demos have a use in almost any situation. Scouts not so much, but soldiers are similar in their ability to be useful in a number of spots, but demo d can hold a bottleneck down like no one else
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 25 2011 19:52 GMT
#776
Yeah no best class is medic... haha.

As far as damage classes it's up in the air between demo soldier scout, not really worth debating, but best class overall is by far the medic.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
July 25 2011 19:58 GMT
#777
On July 26 2011 02:05 Airact wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:20 Stijx wrote:
I played this game a huge amount around release, I played on a team, was one of the first people to unlock the Ubersaw etc... I thought those systems were way better, unlocking weapons etc... The weapons used to be Alternatives instead of upgrades, they were style differences.
I tried to play again recently, and I got completely destroyed by that ridiculous new soldier weapon. As if soldier wasn't the best class already? So unnecessary.

Anyway, for the people above saying you're topping random servers... Everyone good plays on locked servers, or on small population servers. You'll find some amazing people, and mostly bad people on servers like iO Gaming, Newbs, Lotus, Valve etc.



Where did you get from that solly is the best class? It's clearly not.

In my opinion it's pretty much tied to Soldier and Scout which one is the "best" class around.

In competitive TF most teams go 2 Scout 2 Soldier 1 Demo 1 Medic(Is this correct?) in 6v6 with situational classes used from time to time.

Soldier is, in my opinion, the most versatile class around. You are mobile(Rocket Jumping, Equalizer to escape), you do good damage(Rockets, Shotgun on close range deals insane damage) and your health is second only to the Heavy.

Scout on the other hand has insane mobility(Double/Triple Jump, Ludicrous Speed), ridiculous damage output(Scattergun dealing 100+ damage per shot on point-blank) and they can abuse opposing weaknesses(Fight Pyros with 40damage Scatters or with your Pistol, Fight Soldiers on mid-range, Flank Heavies and Demomen).

The other classes just specialize more than these two and possibly the Demoman and that's why I would call the Soldier and the Scout the two "best" classes.

Of course it's very opinion dependant, but I have my reasons to believe that these two are the best classes around.



It's not very dependent on opinion.

When we are talking about insane/ridiculous damage, a demoman, when unpressured, can without much problem do more damage than 2 soldiers in a fight. And that's not even considering a sticky trap. Stickyjumps make him the fastest class, his weapons don't suffer from fall off damage the same way the other classes do and he can lock down an entrance on his own pretty easily. The pipe launcher is one of the best weapons in the game, the sticky launcher is the best weapon in the game.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 20:04:20
July 25 2011 20:03 GMT
#778
On July 26 2011 04:58 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 02:05 Airact wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:40 h3r1n6 wrote:
On July 25 2011 23:20 Stijx wrote:
I played this game a huge amount around release, I played on a team, was one of the first people to unlock the Ubersaw etc... I thought those systems were way better, unlocking weapons etc... The weapons used to be Alternatives instead of upgrades, they were style differences.
I tried to play again recently, and I got completely destroyed by that ridiculous new soldier weapon. As if soldier wasn't the best class already? So unnecessary.

Anyway, for the people above saying you're topping random servers... Everyone good plays on locked servers, or on small population servers. You'll find some amazing people, and mostly bad people on servers like iO Gaming, Newbs, Lotus, Valve etc.



Where did you get from that solly is the best class? It's clearly not.

In my opinion it's pretty much tied to Soldier and Scout which one is the "best" class around.

In competitive TF most teams go 2 Scout 2 Soldier 1 Demo 1 Medic(Is this correct?) in 6v6 with situational classes used from time to time.

Soldier is, in my opinion, the most versatile class around. You are mobile(Rocket Jumping, Equalizer to escape), you do good damage(Rockets, Shotgun on close range deals insane damage) and your health is second only to the Heavy.

Scout on the other hand has insane mobility(Double/Triple Jump, Ludicrous Speed), ridiculous damage output(Scattergun dealing 100+ damage per shot on point-blank) and they can abuse opposing weaknesses(Fight Pyros with 40damage Scatters or with your Pistol, Fight Soldiers on mid-range, Flank Heavies and Demomen).

The other classes just specialize more than these two and possibly the Demoman and that's why I would call the Soldier and the Scout the two "best" classes.

Of course it's very opinion dependant, but I have my reasons to believe that these two are the best classes around.



It's not very dependent on opinion.

When we are talking about insane/ridiculous damage, a demoman, when unpressured, can without much problem do more damage than 2 soldiers in a fight. And that's not even considering a sticky trap. Stickyjumps make him the fastest class, his weapons don't suffer from fall off damage the same way the other classes do and he can lock down an entrance on his own pretty easily. The pipe launcher is one of the best weapons in the game, the sticky launcher is the best weapon in the game.


no falloff on direct hit pipes, but rollers and stickies do indeed have damage falloff
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HyperLink
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada172 Posts
July 25 2011 20:05 GMT
#779
I'm currently working (slowly) on getting my fez so I can complete the Saharan Spy. 73 items is a long way to craft a hat!

As far as the "best" class it really is situational. I find Solider and Demo are really versatile. A good Sniper can pretty much hold a corridor or hall. Engie's are a must for long distance maps to keep pressure on front lines. Scouts can be the most annoying to fight in open spaces. Medic/Demo or Medic/Pyro can really bust sentries when uber'd. Etc...

On public servers however I usually get a team that goes 4 spy, 4 sniper, 3-4 other classes combined and they wonder why we lose...
A woman is a lot like a refrigerator. 6 feet tall, 300 pounds... it makes ice.
FinnGamer
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany2426 Posts
July 25 2011 20:16 GMT
#780
On July 26 2011 05:05 HyperLink wrote:

On public servers however I usually get a team that goes 4 spy, 4 sniper, 3-4 other classes combined and they wonder why we lose...

I srsly get like 4-7 Engineers on either team at least once a day.

Is it me, or do you find Items that you found randomly in your inventory without getting the information?
I check my inventory sometimes and there's something new
"hopefully swing the favor in your advantage." - Day[9]
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