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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 12:24:03
July 17 2011 12:23 GMT
#1601
so i started playing some troll hawk, who is quite fun imho. dmg is totally insane ...

but i got one question: why would i use the lp or mp version of his 360° throw. the dmg is far less than with hp, so what are the advantages? i already checked eventhubs, but didnt find any information about it.
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
July 17 2011 12:35 GMT
#1602
On July 17 2011 21:23 Corvi wrote:
so i started playing some troll hawk, who is quite fun imho. dmg is totally insane ...

but i got one question: why would i use the lp or mp version of his 360° throw. the dmg is far less than with hp, so what are the advantages? i already checked eventhubs, but didnt find any information about it.


Love helping a fellow hawk player.

The Lp ver has the most range but more then that it leaves you closer to the opponent on wake up. This means you have way more options unlike HP throw that leaves you across the screen. With LP you have a safe jump cross up on most of the cast, which is a huge part of Hawks game. I like to either cross up with body press or just empty jump into another LP typhoon. You can also be fancy and jump straight up for a cross up Condor Dive. So I only use the HP typhoon when the damage is going to kill them or I cant get good mix ups after knockdown anyway.
It is what it is
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 17 2011 12:55 GMT
#1603
ive played sf4 on and off supercasually, but arcade edition kinda rekindled my interest in the game. i own the pc edition of the game and i'd like to get better at it. is it normal or supernoob for someone new to fighting games to be unable to do some of the simple combos? i mean really simple stuff like standing hpunch crouch lkick kind of stuff. i was doing this on a friend's ps3. will getting a fightstick help me improve faster / make these combos easier to do? i also have trouble doing anything that 's anything more than a halfcircle. i do Zs ok but when the Z's are part of another part of something i just get all messed up. needless to say im unable to do things like ex shoryu fadc ultra blabla.

*if the fight stick thing is a possibility, where should i go about looking for one? i live in singapore btw.
cool beans
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
July 17 2011 12:58 GMT
#1604
On July 17 2011 21:55 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
ive played sf4 on and off supercasually, but arcade edition kinda rekindled my interest in the game. i own the pc edition of the game and i'd like to get better at it. is it normal or supernoob for someone new to fighting games to be unable to do some of the simple combos? i mean really simple stuff like standing hpunch crouch lkick kind of stuff. i was doing this on a friend's ps3. will getting a fightstick help me improve faster / make these combos easier to do? i also have trouble doing anything that 's anything more than a halfcircle. i do Zs ok but when the Z's are part of another part of something i just get all messed up. needless to say im unable to do things like ex shoryu fadc ultra blabla.

*if the fight stick thing is a possibility, where should i go about looking for one? i live in singapore btw.

Why not just go down to a big arcade in Singapore and talk to people and ask around for tips and help etc; i bet most people would be friendly and help you out with stuff down there Also doing FADC's into ultra isnt easy you need to practise alot to do them, i cant do them and i mostly see pro players do stuff like that and they say practise is the only way to learn stuff like that so go training mode and start practising until you can do the combos you want.
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
July 17 2011 13:08 GMT
#1605
then again there is a diffrence between Training mode and actual fights
But its good start with training mode for combo execution
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
July 17 2011 15:00 GMT
#1606
On July 17 2011 22:08 Suikakuju wrote:
then again there is a diffrence between Training mode and actual fights
But its good start with training mode for combo execution


Yeah, definitely. I can do the special moves like 99% and some simple combos 90% of the time in practice mode. And in a real match I punch hadokens instead of throwing rocks at them. (playing Cody atm). Which feels quite stupid. xD
I also like to choke in round 3, when the enemy is on low health. Start to press buttons like crazy and get punished for free.
But I am quite positive that practice is the only way to get over that stuff. Though not sure how much I am at a disadvantage for keyboard warrioring. (still not sure if I want to invest more money than the game cost me, for a fightstick that I'll probably only use for that one game.)
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 17 2011 16:12 GMT
#1607
the arcade thing sounds good. but i wonder what advice they could possibly give that you guys already haven't lol. and it would burn a hole in my wallet, playing at the arcade when im such a noob x_x
cool beans
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
July 17 2011 16:21 GMT
#1608
I just got SSF4AE.

Did all they add was the 4 characters and of course, the new balances? Cant see anything added. I was kinda hoping for some new intro but oh well xD
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 17 2011 16:43 GMT
#1609
for consoles, yes. for pc ssf4ae is a bigger deal, because there was no ssf4.
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
July 17 2011 16:45 GMT
#1610
On July 17 2011 18:43 SayaSP wrote:
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Anyone have a link to the movie? Google brings up nothing when i search 88 the movie. Shit looks hilarious.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 16:52:33
July 17 2011 16:51 GMT
#1611
On July 18 2011 00:00 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 22:08 Suikakuju wrote:
then again there is a diffrence between Training mode and actual fights
But its good start with training mode for combo execution


Yeah, definitely. I can do the special moves like 99% and some simple combos 90% of the time in practice mode. And in a real match I punch hadokens instead of throwing rocks at them. (playing Cody atm). Which feels quite stupid. xD
I also like to choke in round 3, when the enemy is on low health. Start to press buttons like crazy and get punished for free.
But I am quite positive that practice is the only way to get over that stuff. Though not sure how much I am at a disadvantage for keyboard warrioring. (still not sure if I want to invest more money than the game cost me, for a fightstick that I'll probably only use for that one game.)


That was my dilemma when i bought my arcade stick for playing street fighter IV on PC.
The stick is far more expensive than the game itself, is it really worth it ?
After 1 year of playing with stick my anwser goes only one way : YES IT'S WORTH IT.
I played tons of games with my arcade stick since, I could bring my stick to any friend's house that has a PC, PS3 or XBOX and plug my shit in and play with them. Now Super Street Fighter IV AE is out on PC too so I can't think that I made a bad decision. The release of fighting games on PC is pretty new, with BlazBlue and SFIV leading the way, I'm pretty sure, we'll see more in the future.
An arcade stick definitly changes the way you play, all thoses games have been conceived to be played on arcade conditions. The global feeling + the better accuracy make it a must have for any player that want to play a fighting game in a not-too-casual level. Of course it's possible to master the keyboard or a regular controller. But they don't have the feeling an arcade stick produces.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
July 17 2011 19:12 GMT
#1612
Would you spend $100 on a gaming keyboard / mouse when you're still in bronze / D- in starcraft? If not, don't do it for SF4 =P

Stick really only becomes such a big, useful thing when you start going to tournaments and local sessions, where you can't play always play keyboard / system controller of your choice.

On the bright side, once you have a stick you can play DFO like a boss.
Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
July 18 2011 02:00 GMT
#1613
Just noticed that there is a guy with something like 9897231pp on the PC version leaderboards. Didn't capcom say it was impossible to hack the ladder now that the game runs on GFWL ... I'll be disappointed if this doesn't get fixed like right now =/
lindn
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:35:55
July 18 2011 02:35 GMT
#1614
On July 18 2011 11:00 Toolshed wrote:
Just noticed that there is a guy with something like 9897231pp on the PC version leaderboards. Didn't capcom say it was impossible to hack the ladder now that the game runs on GFWL ... I'll be disappointed if this doesn't get fixed like right now =/

FYI GFWL is and has always been complete garbage
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 18 2011 02:38 GMT
#1615
On July 18 2011 11:00 Toolshed wrote:
Just noticed that there is a guy with something like 9897231pp on the PC version leaderboards. Didn't capcom say it was impossible to hack the ladder now that the game runs on GFWL ... I'll be disappointed if this doesn't get fixed like right now =/


Hm, did they ever say that? I heard SF4 PC leaderboards were pretty notoriously hacked, and that was on GFWL too.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 03:04:21
July 18 2011 02:52 GMT
#1616
On July 17 2011 21:23 Corvi wrote:
so i started playing some troll hawk, who is quite fun imho. dmg is totally insane ...

but i got one question: why would i use the lp or mp version of his 360° throw. the dmg is far less than with hp, so what are the advantages? i already checked eventhubs, but didnt find any information about it.

Like all command throws, T. Hawk's works like this:

light: most range, least damage
medium: medium range, medium damage
heavy: least range, most damage
EX: somewhere inbetween medium and heavy (has different startup frames and invincibility frames)

As a gief player, I find myself almost never using medium spd since it was the only spd that didn't receive any buffs, so I use l.spd for its [massive] range and h.spd up close for its [massive] damage.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 02:59:43
July 18 2011 02:54 GMT
#1617
On July 18 2011 04:12 Trumpet wrote:
Would you spend $100 on a gaming keyboard / mouse when you're still in bronze / D- in starcraft? If not, don't do it for SF4 =P

Stick really only becomes such a big, useful thing when you start going to tournaments and local sessions, where you can't play always play keyboard / system controller of your choice.

On the bright side, once you have a stick you can play DFO like a boss.

Tourneys at my locality let you use a 360 analog stick if you want.

That being said, who would want to do that? lol. I only use the analog for online play and when I'm too lazy to get out the stick.

Also, speaking of playing with shit controllers, I got into masters using only a trackpad (and still am using a trackpad).

Perhaps an intermediate option (read: not $60+) is the madcatz fightpad. A better dpad and controller scheme for about $30 (not quite good as a stick, but a good intro tool as it is)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 18 2011 05:37 GMT
#1618
lol sbo qual. First time I saw someone gets carried harder than Noel Brown in teams.

SNK reminds me of like, DarkPrince lol. Talked shit to everyone, then proceeded to get bodied free.

Let's see if SNK gonna get perfected in SBO lol.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 18 2011 05:38 GMT
#1619
I call him Mr.SNKarried from now on.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
July 18 2011 06:47 GMT
#1620
any tips for learning evil ryu? I can't find a good tutorial online, and I have no idea which of his combos should I use most often. Will the challenges with the normal ryu help me learn evil ryu since there are none for him?
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