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Defeat
Profile Joined March 2010
United States476 Posts
July 16 2011 00:41 GMT
#1561
My game is updating through steam currently as well.
"the metagame has really evolved to the point where the best chance to win the metagame is to game the metagame" -Bags
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
July 16 2011 02:11 GMT
#1562
Yo, I am about to buy an arcade controller as well. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 16 2011 02:13 GMT
#1563
whyyyy cant i see the pp of the people joining my game!? its so annoying when i get some 0 pp guy, who for whatever reasons is good and i get -100 or so after i lost. now i'm c+ with oni and c with honda, and like 600pp, lolz ...

oh well, i guess i cant blame capcom. blizzard and riot epic failed with their ladder systems as well. why make it so complicated, when something basic like iccup is best?

stuuupid!
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 16 2011 02:24 GMT
#1564
On July 16 2011 11:11 Shiragaku wrote:
Yo, I am about to buy an arcade controller as well. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Since you're a starter, I would recommend the basic madcatz stick or hori stick for your respective console (360 stick works on PC no problem)

If you get more serious, you can upgrade to a TE or VX3 (both very expensive), or you can take the basic madcatz stick and mod in sanwa parts (what I did).
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 16 2011 02:28 GMT
#1565
Streaming some training mode lab work:

http://www.justin.tv/ocedic
ChronoCat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 02:45:45
July 16 2011 02:40 GMT
#1566
Anybody have any tips on dealing with and using Focus Attacks? Everytime I do a jump-in I seem to get caught by a focus attack that destroys me. Even when I'm just throwing out a poke I get caught sometimes. But when I try to throw a focus attack out myself the opponent always seems to be able to react/break/deal with it.

So any idea how to deal with focus attacks that my opponent throw out when I'm doing say a jump-in attack? And some good ways of using focus attacks myself?

I use Gouken if that helps.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 16 2011 02:49 GMT
#1567
On July 16 2011 11:40 ChronoCat wrote:
Anybody have any tips on dealing and using Focus Attacks? Everytime I do a jump-in I seem to get caught by a focus attack that destroys me. Even when I'm just throwing out a poke I get caught sometimes. But when I try to throw a focus attack out myself the opponent always seems to be able to react/break/deal with it.

So any idea how to deal with focus attacks that my opponent throw out when I'm doing say a jump-in attack? And some good ways of using focus attacks myself?

I use Gouken if that helps.

If they FA your jumpin, don't use a normal when you land, it will get stuffed and you will get crumple. Instead, when you land, block it (don't shoryuken/tatsu when you land, they *can* backdash it). If he goes for a level 3, neutral jump to dodge and punish.

Typically FA's are used to charge meter off fireballs. As a gief player, I also use it to break in (since it has so much range on him) and combo into ultra. You can use FA's to punish jump ins, and also use them meaty (on opponent wakeup), although it isn't safe, and if you do it meaty, you should just backdash when he gets up and hope you baited a shoryuken or something.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
July 16 2011 03:37 GMT
#1568
On July 16 2011 11:13 Corvi wrote:
whyyyy cant i see the pp of the people joining my game!? its so annoying when i get some 0 pp guy, who for whatever reasons is good and i get -100 or so after i lost. now i'm c+ with oni and c with honda, and like 600pp, lolz ...

oh well, i guess i cant blame capcom. blizzard and riot epic failed with their ladder systems as well. why make it so complicated, when something basic like iccup is best?

stuuupid!


Because if you could see the PP of people who join, you could dodge them. I'm pretty sure that's exactly why it's hidden.

Doesn't really have an effect after you've played them once though.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 03:49:21
July 16 2011 03:42 GMT
#1569
On July 16 2011 11:13 Corvi wrote:
whyyyy cant i see the pp of the people joining my game!? its so annoying when i get some 0 pp guy, who for whatever reasons is good and i get -100 or so after i lost. now i'm c+ with oni and c with honda, and like 600pp, lolz ...

oh well, i guess i cant blame capcom. blizzard and riot epic failed with their ladder systems as well. why make it so complicated, when something basic like iccup is best?

stuuupid!

A lot of these "0pp" people are actually SSF4 veterans who are switching to AE and have plenty of experience (or are smurfing on new accounts). Kinda like in Iccup, where people reset, and that "D" player is really a gosu korean smurf.

I got so much pp easily when I started ae lol

The SSF4 ladder system is good in that the skill level approximations are relatively accurate (i.e. a 1.5k PP is about the same level as a 1.6k PP player), whereas in SC2, there can be a major difference in skill between two people in the same league. However, SSF4 doesn't stop low level players from running into you (in SC2 if you are masters you won't run into a bronze player), even the match search lets you look for "more skilled"
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 16 2011 08:15 GMT
#1570
Oh wait wtf there's some kind of Korea Cup SSF4AE going on right now?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spiritzero

Tokido vs. Poongko live??!?!!
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 16 2011 08:26 GMT
#1571
On July 16 2011 17:15 Myrmidon wrote:
Oh wait wtf there's some kind of Korea Cup SSF4AE going on right now?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spiritzero

Tokido vs. Poongko live??!?!!

They said it yesterday, in that ust_something stream.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 08:32:39
July 16 2011 08:29 GMT
#1572
On July 16 2011 17:15 Myrmidon wrote:
Oh wait wtf there's some kind of Korea Cup SSF4AE going on right now?
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spiritzero

Tokido vs. Poongko live??!?!!


oh nvm its xbox haha
Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 17:43:36
July 16 2011 09:42 GMT
#1573
On July 16 2011 11:40 ChronoCat wrote:
Anybody have any tips on dealing with and using Focus Attacks? Everytime I do a jump-in I seem to get caught by a focus attack that destroys me. Even when I'm just throwing out a poke I get caught sometimes. But when I try to throw a focus attack out myself the opponent always seems to be able to react/break/deal with it.

So any idea how to deal with focus attacks that my opponent throw out when I'm doing say a jump-in attack? And some good ways of using focus attacks myself?

I use Gouken if that helps.


Start doing empty jump-ins, then throw when you land. Mash the hell out of jab when you land after jump-in. Just hitting a second attack will snuff their focus attack. Maybe you are doing your jump-in attack way too early as well. Try not to telegraph all your moves to your opponent.

As for good uses for focus:
- Use it to tank a cross-up, dash out
- Advancing forward through fireball war, so that you get at dangerous range
- Scaring your opponent: just dash out of your focus attack before letting go a lot
- NEVER EVER EVER EVERRRRRRRRRRRRR do focus when Akuma has Ultra 1/Super. You WILL get hit. ALWAYS! lol
Shrugger
Profile Joined November 2010
44 Posts
July 16 2011 09:56 GMT
#1574
I have really been wanting to get into some fighting games (especially since i have a cheap fighting stick already)... but I cant really afford any of the consoles. Is the PC community for fighting games big/good enough to invest in?
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 10:08 GMT
#1575
yes
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 16 2011 11:41 GMT
#1576
Can anyone give me the buttons I'd be matching to set a keyboard in a similar setup as a hitbox controller?

Specifically, is the directional button for the thumb down or up?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 11:49 GMT
#1577
Q left
W down
E right
Space up

then map 3 buttons in a row as LP MP HP
ditto for 3 buttons below that, as LK MK HK

then i suggest 2 buttons for throw and focus (lp+lk, and mp+mk) since hitting two buttons vertically on keys as small on a keyboard, would be a pain in the ass, might as well just use one button.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
July 16 2011 11:58 GMT
#1578
Thanks.
.
I think I'll try modding a bit again
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
July 16 2011 12:07 GMT
#1579
On July 16 2011 07:29 Raekhor wrote:
For Europeans: I've found a madcatz TE round 2 for 149.99 in Belgium, so shipping doesn't seem to be too bad. If you want to order it through this store and have some questions about shipping, just contact the owner. http://www.gamegear.be/product_info.php?cPath=73_95&products_id=1742


i got mine from gamestop before AE came out for 89,99€
great deal
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 16 2011 14:59 GMT
#1580
On July 16 2011 11:40 ChronoCat wrote:
Anybody have any tips on dealing with and using Focus Attacks? Everytime I do a jump-in I seem to get caught by a focus attack that destroys me. Even when I'm just throwing out a poke I get caught sometimes. But when I try to throw a focus attack out myself the opponent always seems to be able to react/break/deal with it.

So any idea how to deal with focus attacks that my opponent throw out when I'm doing say a jump-in attack? And some good ways of using focus attacks myself?

I use Gouken if that helps.


If your opponent focuses attack a lot, do more empty jump ins. You can punish with throws, focus breakers or just bait the attack and then punish. Poke with more LP/LK spam rather than slower pokes, which punish focus nicely and you can hit confirm into damage or knockdowns for most characters (learn this combos, you can look them up in the character forums on SRK.)
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