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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 13 2011 16:42 GMT
#1401
On July 13 2011 21:57 Trumpet wrote:
Yeah, MLG ran Tekken 6 at all the same events as SC2. Tekken doesn't really get enough love in the US though. It's a shame too, because a lot of the recent T6 tournaments had Aris + Markman commentary, which is fun enough that I always watch even though I'm a pure scrub at Tekken.

mlg did try tekken 5 as well, but it was a disaster as payouts weren't fully agreed upon and both communities agreed to split at the time.

mlg wasn't that hot back then, though.



i think this year with evo and the evo series of tournaments where you can earn seeding points that it's on a path to something good though.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:50:49
July 13 2011 16:48 GMT
#1402
On July 14 2011 00:41 thirnaz wrote:
What does the fighting community mean by "salty"? :S
Also charge characters, I dont understand how the backward thing works, I only tap back once and then i can do forward + medium punch and I do the special move?


Salty is just a way of saying upset or frustrated.
Charge characters you need to "charge" down or back or down,back (diagonal) for a couple seconds then you push forward or up and the button designated for that either kick or punch.
Most people will charge down and back so they can use their down to up move and their back to forward move.
Practice in training mode to get a feeling for how long you need to charge for, its a safe bet you can try counting to 3 then push forward, or up, and the move and it will come out.

Edit: here's a good list of information including lingo for fighting games
http://iplaywinner.com/glossary
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
July 13 2011 16:56 GMT
#1403
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 17:05:24
July 13 2011 17:01 GMT
#1404
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Hey don't be counting out AquaSilk that guys got a sick Zangief as well.
Also T-Hawk is a good matchup against Yun but the only person I can think of that plays T-Hawk is Min and he only semi plays T-Hawk

Personally I want another GamerBee to just appear out of the woodwork and BODY everyone at Evo. Get R'kelly all up in there, going to look like we had a golden shower marathon.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 13 2011 17:21 GMT
#1405
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.

I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Don't forget Zangitan. He won't attend though, same with Itabashi Zangief.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12255 Posts
July 13 2011 17:23 GMT
#1406
On July 14 2011 02:01 DrBoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Hey don't be counting out AquaSilk that guys got a sick Zangief as well.
Also T-Hawk is a good matchup against Yun but the only person I can think of that plays T-Hawk is Min and he only semi plays T-Hawk

Personally I want another GamerBee to just appear out of the woodwork and BODY everyone at Evo. Get R'kelly all up in there, going to look like we had a golden shower marathon.


I love AquaSilk but he just plays really gimmicky and really unsafe. He tends to get away with a lot of "online" tactics like whiff s.hk SPD and whiff green hand Ultra 1. Now he's on this Ultra 2 kick where he will try desperately to land that Ultra 2 no matter what. He is nowhere near the level of Vangief or Itazan.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 13 2011 17:27 GMT
#1407
On July 14 2011 02:23 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 02:01 DrBoo wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Hey don't be counting out AquaSilk that guys got a sick Zangief as well.
Also T-Hawk is a good matchup against Yun but the only person I can think of that plays T-Hawk is Min and he only semi plays T-Hawk

Personally I want another GamerBee to just appear out of the woodwork and BODY everyone at Evo. Get R'kelly all up in there, going to look like we had a golden shower marathon.


I love AquaSilk but he just plays really gimmicky and really unsafe. He tends to get away with a lot of "online" tactics like whiff s.hk SPD and whiff green hand Ultra 1. Now he's on this Ultra 2 kick where he will try desperately to land that Ultra 2 no matter what. He is nowhere near the level of Vangief or Itazan.


If your reputation proceeds you it's just another thing you can use to your advantage. The best example of this is during one of the Alex Valle WNF tutorials from awhile back. He said something along the lines of I can get away with it and people are scared because I'm Alex Valle.
FADC
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 17:27:35
July 13 2011 17:27 GMT
#1408
buggy internet doubled
FADC
thirnaz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden876 Posts
July 13 2011 18:15 GMT
#1409
On July 14 2011 01:48 DrBoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 00:41 thirnaz wrote:
What does the fighting community mean by "salty"? :S
Also charge characters, I dont understand how the backward thing works, I only tap back once and then i can do forward + medium punch and I do the special move?


Salty is just a way of saying upset or frustrated.
Charge characters you need to "charge" down or back or down,back (diagonal) for a couple seconds then you push forward or up and the button designated for that either kick or punch.
Most people will charge down and back so they can use their down to up move and their back to forward move.
Practice in training mode to get a feeling for how long you need to charge for, its a safe bet you can try counting to 3 then push forward, or up, and the move and it will come out.

Edit: here's a good list of information including lingo for fighting games
http://iplaywinner.com/glossary

Thanks alot for the answer, and thanks to the other guy aswell for the help Tryed it in training mode and works very well, thanks :D
SlayerS_MMA and TL #1
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12255 Posts
July 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#1410
On July 14 2011 03:15 thirnaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 01:48 DrBoo wrote:
On July 14 2011 00:41 thirnaz wrote:
What does the fighting community mean by "salty"? :S
Also charge characters, I dont understand how the backward thing works, I only tap back once and then i can do forward + medium punch and I do the special move?


Salty is just a way of saying upset or frustrated.
Charge characters you need to "charge" down or back or down,back (diagonal) for a couple seconds then you push forward or up and the button designated for that either kick or punch.
Most people will charge down and back so they can use their down to up move and their back to forward move.
Practice in training mode to get a feeling for how long you need to charge for, its a safe bet you can try counting to 3 then push forward, or up, and the move and it will come out.

Edit: here's a good list of information including lingo for fighting games
http://iplaywinner.com/glossary

Thanks alot for the answer, and thanks to the other guy aswell for the help Tryed it in training mode and works very well, thanks :D


Most charge moves require 55 frames to charge (Guile's Sonic Boom is 50 frames but I've heard 45 somewhere) and the game runs at 60 fps, so slightly under one full second. Most players tend to play it safe and charge for about 2 seconds because it's better for the special to come out than to have some normal come out when you really needed the charge move.
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Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 22:29:55
July 13 2011 22:26 GMT
#1411
My arcade stick will be shipped in one or two days and I'm starting to ask myself how I'm gonna setup my buttons. What's best? Like all punches on the top row and all kicks on the bottom row? how about the two buttons far right? Do you guys have throw or focus attack bound to some button?

that's what im most likely gonna do if you don't have a better advice:

(lp) (mp) (hp) (lp+mp+hp)
(lk) (mk) (hk) (lk+mk+hk)

but than again pressing all punches or kicks at the same time will probably not be a problem with a stick, so maybe I'm better of binding focus attack or throw to the buttons far right? meh ...
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 13 2011 22:34 GMT
#1412
The setup you posted is default BUT I know of some people who leave the 4th buttons unbound.

If it helps any arcade is top row punches and bottom row kicks (only 6 buttons though
FADC
Velocity`
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom343 Posts
July 13 2011 22:37 GMT
#1413
Are you guys having fun trying to juggle AE and SC2? I find I'll play one day of AE and then my mechanics go to shit the next day when I play some ladder games.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 23:23:55
July 13 2011 23:23 GMT
#1414
On July 14 2011 02:27 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 02:23 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On July 14 2011 02:01 DrBoo wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Hey don't be counting out AquaSilk that guys got a sick Zangief as well.
Also T-Hawk is a good matchup against Yun but the only person I can think of that plays T-Hawk is Min and he only semi plays T-Hawk

Personally I want another GamerBee to just appear out of the woodwork and BODY everyone at Evo. Get R'kelly all up in there, going to look like we had a golden shower marathon.


I love AquaSilk but he just plays really gimmicky and really unsafe. He tends to get away with a lot of "online" tactics like whiff s.hk SPD and whiff green hand Ultra 1. Now he's on this Ultra 2 kick where he will try desperately to land that Ultra 2 no matter what. He is nowhere near the level of Vangief or Itazan.


If your reputation proceeds you it's just another thing you can use to your advantage. The best example of this is during one of the Alex Valle WNF tutorials from awhile back. He said something along the lines of I can get away with it and people are scared because I'm Alex Valle.


Don't think Daigo is gonna respect Aquasilk lol.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#1415
Aquasilk is a great player but he doesn't get any practice against Yun in new york, and he still uses the gimmicky U2.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
July 13 2011 23:32 GMT
#1416
On July 14 2011 07:37 Velocity` wrote:
Are you guys having fun trying to juggle AE and SC2? I find I'll play one day of AE and then my mechanics go to shit the next day when I play some ladder games.


Its fine juggling AE and SC2 I'm personally Diamond in SC2 and like 500pp AE, but I'm working on getting my AE skill up atm so taking a bit of a break from SC2
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
July 14 2011 01:13 GMT
#1417
On July 14 2011 07:37 Velocity` wrote:
Are you guys having fun trying to juggle AE and SC2? I find I'll play one day of AE and then my mechanics go to shit the next day when I play some ladder games.


I have trouble juggling games due to work and not having a lot of time to spend on playing more than one game. So when I pick up a new game I tend to drop the other for a bit.

Twitter: @KingKosi
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 14 2011 01:22 GMT
#1418
On July 14 2011 02:23 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 02:01 DrBoo wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:56 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 14 2011 01:12 maxor wrote:
Is there a definitive best player for Street fighter i mean if i wanted to watch some-one who em-bodied the best and most skilled aspects of the game who would that be, i don't necessarily mean who wins the most, more-as who is considered to be the most skilled the character doesn't matter.


As others already stated, Daigo Umehara. He's the reigning Evo champion, having won the last two championships in SF4 and SSF4 (and countless other tournaments). Also his AE Yun is looking goddamn unbeatable, so it's quite likely he'll win this year as well. I think only a really good Zangief can stop him at this point, so unless he meets Vangief or Itabashi Zangief (if he's attending) I don't see him having much trouble keeping the crown.

Hey don't be counting out AquaSilk that guys got a sick Zangief as well.
Also T-Hawk is a good matchup against Yun but the only person I can think of that plays T-Hawk is Min and he only semi plays T-Hawk

Personally I want another GamerBee to just appear out of the woodwork and BODY everyone at Evo. Get R'kelly all up in there, going to look like we had a golden shower marathon.


I love AquaSilk but he just plays really gimmicky and really unsafe. He tends to get away with a lot of "online" tactics like whiff s.hk SPD and whiff green hand Ultra 1. Now he's on this Ultra 2 kick where he will try desperately to land that Ultra 2 no matter what. He is nowhere near the level of Vangief or Itazan.

Don't hate the online tactics, bro

Even Poongko will shoryuken spam like no other, and he wins shit
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
July 14 2011 01:34 GMT
#1419
Honestly I am more than positive Daigo will win this years Evo. He is just to good right now and he's using one of the best characters in the game. It also helps when you have over a six month advantage with AE. I would be VERY surprised if he doesn't make it to the final two.
Twitter: @KingKosi
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
July 14 2011 02:06 GMT
#1420
On July 14 2011 10:34 Kingkosi wrote:
Honestly I am more than positive Daigo will win this years Evo. He is just to good right now and he's using one of the best characters in the game. It also helps when you have over a six month advantage with AE. I would be VERY surprised if he doesn't make it to the final two.


They don't have that much advantage because there were some arcades in america that had it. It was just "less" popular in north america because there was no major tournaments for it.
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
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