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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
October 08 2015 14:03 GMT
#12281
Yup, another female character that's too sexy. That makes 4/5?
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
October 08 2015 15:49 GMT
#12282
well, I don't mind sexy characters per se, it's just the way they tend to do it comes across as a bit cheap imo. Other series do it too but take kof, there are plenty of female characters that aren't "inflated tits in your face" lvl of sexy ( sans Mai ofc).
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
October 08 2015 17:48 GMT
#12283
Feel bad for Ono but Laura looks awesome. Can't wait to try her out. Super slow fireball looks neat and I'm all about more chars that don't rely on old styles, even if I end up hating them later like I did fuerte / viper lol
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 08 2015 17:56 GMT
#12284
On October 09 2015 00:49 2stra wrote:
well, I don't mind sexy characters per se, it's just the way they tend to do it comes across as a bit cheap imo. Other series do it too but take kof, there are plenty of female characters that aren't "inflated tits in your face" lvl of sexy ( sans Mai ofc).


I agree with this. I like characters that look sexy. There are just some that are so over the top that they make me cringe and/or roll my eyes. Mai has always felt like a joke character. R. Mika and DoA characters are kinda in the same vein.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 09 2015 11:59 GMT
#12285
Yeah I'm pretty much dead sick of these cheap DOA designs.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 09 2015 14:49 GMT
#12286
Other than Mika and Laura, who else is a "cheap DOA design"?
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 15:31:16
October 09 2015 15:26 GMT
#12287
Mika's design came around the time when Kasumi was still wearing pants.

Edit: Actually nvm, looks like they switched Kasumi's default costumes for the ps1 version.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
October 09 2015 22:55 GMT
#12288
I always thought Cammy's outfit was too revealing for the general public. The rest of the USFIV cast was great though: Viper, Ibuki, Rose, Juri. Chun was fine too, but she seems to have paid a visit to the plastic surgeon / balloon guy:
[image loading]
Tien Vu
Profile Joined August 2015
184 Posts
October 09 2015 23:26 GMT
#12289
the team tournament at socal regionals is underway, guys:
http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
October 10 2015 00:27 GMT
#12290
I wish they were more revealing tbh. Can't stand you prudes.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 10 2015 00:41 GMT
#12291
On October 10 2015 07:55 aseq wrote:
I always thought Cammy's outfit was too revealing for the general public. The rest of the USFIV cast was great though: Viper, Ibuki, Rose, Juri. Chun was fine too, but she seems to have paid a visit to the plastic surgeon / balloon guy:
[image loading]

That's been fixed haha. And you could argue about Cammy but her look hasn't changed in decades. Viper had insane cleavage and Juri is pretty risky. Idk it seems like people are making a bigger ruckus about this than I expected. Not to mention that's probably the last of the females we'll see until DLC
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 10 2015 09:53 GMT
#12292
It basically makes me not want to play any of the female cast around anyone I actually interact with in person on a regular basis.

I play a fair amount of SF4 at the office, and every woman who wants to give it a go will naturally check out all the female characters. Cammy, Viper (the heck is that shirt?), Poison, sometimes Elena or Sakura depending on the prejudice of the person -- reaction is kinda like, "ok I see why you guys play this." That doesn't happen when you go to pick up a game like Smash.

Karin, Makoto, and Ibuki's default costume are IMO an OK example of how you can do interesting things with a female character without having their tits or ass hanging out. IDGAF if Cammy has been around since the pleistocene, I dunno why a military-trained woman would turn around and flex her buttcheeks when mission is accomplished. It also looks like Chun got a bit of 'augmentation' in SF5, and her first announced DLC costume IIRC a lot scantier than her default one.

It doesn't stop me from playing the game, but it does stop me from playing with a lot of people who would probably otherwise feel more welcome to give it a shot. It's an idiotic move that blocks out an entire demographic who otherwise might be more willing to give it an try.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
October 10 2015 22:27 GMT
#12293
On October 10 2015 18:53 mikedebo wrote:
It basically makes me not want to play any of the female cast around anyone I actually interact with in person on a regular basis.

I play a fair amount of SF4 at the office, and every woman who wants to give it a go will naturally check out all the female characters. Cammy, Viper (the heck is that shirt?), Poison, sometimes Elena or Sakura depending on the prejudice of the person -- reaction is kinda like, "ok I see why you guys play this." That doesn't happen when you go to pick up a game like Smash.

Karin, Makoto, and Ibuki's default costume are IMO an OK example of how you can do interesting things with a female character without having their tits or ass hanging out. IDGAF if Cammy has been around since the pleistocene, I dunno why a military-trained woman would turn around and flex her buttcheeks when mission is accomplished. It also looks like Chun got a bit of 'augmentation' in SF5, and her first announced DLC costume IIRC a lot scantier than her default one.

It doesn't stop me from playing the game, but it does stop me from playing with a lot of people who would probably otherwise feel more welcome to give it a shot. It's an idiotic move that blocks out an entire demographic who otherwise might be more willing to give it an try.


I feel with you. Unfortunately, the only comments people seem to give on the subject is something along the lines of "y u butthurt fag is just game #yoloswag".

Although I feel that R.Mika is a far worse atrocity than Laura, since she looks incredibly plastic and unreal.

And no, the Chun-Li thing isnt "fixed". As it was still in the Laura build, check the Momochi vs Laura currently on reddit.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 10 2015 22:35 GMT
#12294
Why are you cringey about the female characters but completely normal with the 1/2 naked completely unrealistic body proportion male characters?

You think shit like this + Show Spoiler +
[image loading] [image loading]
isn't just as sexualized as anything else? The game is an over the top action fighting game and almost character has completely ridiculous costumes and bodies. You're projecting your personal bias towards attraction to woman while ignoring the same thing is going on with the entire cast.

Sports bras aren't anymore sexualized than speedos, only in your perception. Maybe you're as equally upset about the male tropes in these games too but it doesn't seem like anyone cares or mentions it. I find that always very odd in these conversations.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
October 10 2015 22:42 GMT
#12295
I tried to say that earlier but was told that isn't the issue. Maybe you should tell anyone with that reaction that you only play to see that hot piece of meat Zangief.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-10 22:52:42
October 10 2015 22:48 GMT
#12296
On October 11 2015 07:42 porkRaven wrote:
I tried to say that earlier but was told that isn't the issue. Maybe you should tell anyone with that reaction that you only play to see that hot piece of meat Zangief.


This is a strawman argument. Zangief isn't a hypersexualized character. If he had a giant throbbing penis half-hanging out of his hammock, maybe then we'd have an apt comparison.

The ratio of the male cast that falls into these tropes is also a lot smaller. It's telling that the poster above had to reach back to SF3 to come up with a second example IMO.


I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 10 2015 22:58 GMT
#12297
On a different note: I'm in Tokyo end of this week. I'm planning on visiting taito game station in shinjuku to see some SF4 action -- anyone know if that's a good bet, or have alternate recommendations?
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
October 10 2015 23:09 GMT
#12298
Just because you don't find a hardened bear man sexual, as I do personally, doesn't mean he isn't. I love big muscles that's what gets me off. And feet too.
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 10 2015 23:15 GMT
#12299
On October 11 2015 07:48 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2015 07:42 porkRaven wrote:
I tried to say that earlier but was told that isn't the issue. Maybe you should tell anyone with that reaction that you only play to see that hot piece of meat Zangief.


This is a strawman argument. Zangief isn't a hypersexualized character. If he had a giant throbbing penis half-hanging out of his hammock, maybe then we'd have an apt comparison.

The ratio of the male cast that falls into these tropes is also a lot smaller. It's telling that the poster above had to reach back to SF3 to come up with a second example IMO.



It's a shame you can't see past your own bias to see how ridiculous you sound. Any character showing 1/2 their body off is hypersexualized especially given the bodies of 99% of the fighters in the game. If you think Abel's swim shorts aren't sexualized but Poisons crop top and cut shorts are, you're being intellectually dishonest.

A super sized unrealistic macho character with little clothes on is the same as a super feminine large breasted woman with little clothes on. The only difference is you are likely attracted to boobs and not washboard abs and tight asses.

speedo = swim suit = low cut dress = ripped up clothes = shirtless

The only differences is personal perception and bias.

Also the Urien example for SF3 was just to show one of the more obvious examples, nearly every male fighter in the USF4 cast has outfits that you could pick to highlight.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
October 10 2015 23:27 GMT
#12300
That wolf Ryu must be porn for the furries.
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