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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 28 2014 21:36 GMT
#7881
The show today was really good. Tasteless is definitely getting in the mood.
The chat is a true minefield tho, so much deleted messages, timeout and bans xD
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 28 2014 21:37 GMT
#7882
The bots are really efficient and strict.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
SantosPhillipCarlo
Profile Joined September 2013
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 23:31:20
January 28 2014 23:22 GMT
#7883
Episode 1
Mike Ross (E. Honda) - 4 <Historic Distillery> Xian (Gen) - 7

Episode 2
Filipino Champ (Dhalsim) - 3 <Exciting Street Scene> Xian (Gen) - 7

Episode 3
Alioune (Cammy) <?> Xian (Gen)


On January 29 2014 06:37 Torte de Lini wrote:
The bots are really efficient and strict.


They need to be in this case. The FGC is known for generating hype and that's why I enjoy it thoroughly, but not enough people (especially some stream monsters) have a filter where they can go un-modded.

Definitely liked today's episode too. I got more hype out of Mike Ross vs. Xian, but that's definitely not to say this one stunk. Tasteless definitely not only seemed more comfortable today but also had his Protoss background shine through a bit when he called Yoga Teleport a warp.

Also got quite a few StarCraft references in Twitch chat for your perusal. Check these out:

"Mining minerals = building meter"
"Daigo only plays Protoss"
"FChamp needs to use his Queens better"
"Super = minerals = blue, Ultra = Vespene = green. Coincidence?"
"Good thing Champ didn't use his minerals"
"Gen has so much mineral/gas, terrible macro"
"Champ spent his minerals on Yoga Flame"


One more thing...you think we're headed for an Akuma mirror with Infiltration and Tokido?

EDIT: You guys might want to see this:

All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them. - Walt Disney
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
January 28 2014 23:31 GMT
#7884
Can folks post VODs as soon as they're available loved catching the first episode yesterday but it's going to be tough for U.S. consistently!
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
January 29 2014 01:07 GMT
#7885
I liked it. Some of the player interviews and stuff is somewhat awkward. All the players looked a lot nerdier than I know them from other stuff for some reason. Also, the format is a little bit unclear. The player drawn first would have to play 7 matches, the one drawn last will only play 1 match and win the 25k? Tasteless and Gootecks aren't quite a team yet, sometimes talking at the same time, but that will probably improve over the next few episodes...Thanks a lot!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 29 2014 07:11 GMT
#7886
On January 29 2014 08:31 Duka08 wrote:
Can folks post VODs as soon as they're available loved catching the first episode yesterday but it's going to be tough for U.S. consistently!


you got it (:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
January 29 2014 09:00 GMT
#7887
I don't personally have much to add about the ESGN thing that hasn't already been said, but worth noting my gf, a tournament player who plays at Evo etc, went to watch the VOD when it got posted up, saw the random schoolgirls at the start and ragequit before any matches started. Not really sure what that was meant to accomplish, but it completely alienated her right off the bat.

Don't do that again.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:47:18
January 29 2014 15:40 GMT
#7888
On January 29 2014 10:07 aseq wrote:
I liked it. Some of the player interviews and stuff is somewhat awkward. All the players looked a lot nerdier than I know them from other stuff for some reason. Also, the format is a little bit unclear. The player drawn first would have to play 7 matches, the one drawn last will only play 1 match and win the 25k? Tasteless and Gootecks aren't quite a team yet, sometimes talking at the same time, but that will probably improve over the next few episodes...Thanks a lot!


I agree it's unclear. From what I understand, it's similar to King of the Hill-style Starcraft tournament. They go for 7 episodes, so everybody will lose once except for one guy. The players get paid for streaks: If the first guy drawn wins all 7 matches, he gets $25k, otherwise that amount is off the table.

The main thing I don't understand is what happens when someone decides to quit, who takes their place? You would end up with a situation where somebody can lose twice.

Edit: As for my feedback, I agree the production is corny and way too over-the-top. I love the fact that the players are on a couch watching the match and speaking frankly, and I also think Gootecks is doing a really good job explaining things for newer players. Tasteless is horrible, but I love him. I think it may be smart to have him there to bridge the gap for SC2 viewership.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4019 Posts
January 29 2014 15:47 GMT
#7889
On January 30 2014 00:40 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 10:07 aseq wrote:
I liked it. Some of the player interviews and stuff is somewhat awkward. All the players looked a lot nerdier than I know them from other stuff for some reason. Also, the format is a little bit unclear. The player drawn first would have to play 7 matches, the one drawn last will only play 1 match and win the 25k? Tasteless and Gootecks aren't quite a team yet, sometimes talking at the same time, but that will probably improve over the next few episodes...Thanks a lot!


I agree it's unclear. From what I understand, it's similar to King of the Hill-style Starcraft tournament. They go for 7 episodes, so everybody will lose once except for one guy. The players get paid for streaks: If the first guy drawn wins all 7 matches, he gets $25k, otherwise that amount is off the table.

The main thing I don't understand is what happens when someone decides to quit, who takes their place? You would end up with a situation where somebody can lose twice.

So the player drawn last can never make a streak and can only win $500? Weird. Then it pays to get the worst players to perform first, since they'll never make long streaks. At first, I thought each player would try a full run eliminating the others, but that would take far too much time.
FOX-skY
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany42 Posts
January 29 2014 16:10 GMT
#7890
On January 30 2014 00:47 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:40 Cel.erity wrote:
On January 29 2014 10:07 aseq wrote:
I liked it. Some of the player interviews and stuff is somewhat awkward. All the players looked a lot nerdier than I know them from other stuff for some reason. Also, the format is a little bit unclear. The player drawn first would have to play 7 matches, the one drawn last will only play 1 match and win the 25k? Tasteless and Gootecks aren't quite a team yet, sometimes talking at the same time, but that will probably improve over the next few episodes...Thanks a lot!


I agree it's unclear. From what I understand, it's similar to King of the Hill-style Starcraft tournament. They go for 7 episodes, so everybody will lose once except for one guy. The players get paid for streaks: If the first guy drawn wins all 7 matches, he gets $25k, otherwise that amount is off the table.

The main thing I don't understand is what happens when someone decides to quit, who takes their place? You would end up with a situation where somebody can lose twice.

So the player drawn last can never make a streak and can only win $500? Weird. Then it pays to get the worst players to perform first, since they'll never make long streaks. At first, I thought each player would try a full run eliminating the others, but that would take far too much time.

guess he can win the 25k and will be back in the next season or something...
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diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 18:34:07
January 29 2014 18:30 GMT
#7891
Yeah this format makes absolutely no sense at all. If its like the last player to be chosen can win 25k with just one win then thats kinda unfair, if he can only win the 250$ for first win, then its completely broken and just asks for collusion. I mean, why would you even try to win against Xian in set 7 when you can only win 250$? Why not agree with him to lose and get like 2-5k from his 25? Letting one player streak all the way and splitting the 25k just makes a LOT more sense for everybody, especially since you lose a lot of what you have earned so far when you lose. FGC players are usually smart about money, so I will be very surprised if Xian doesnt take it with 7 wins.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 20:09:44
January 29 2014 19:59 GMT
#7892
You must win 7 in a row to get 25k. Players who are still continuing to play come back to the next season (:
If you lose, you get a smaller amount as per shown in our infographic and a new foe is selected.

Think of it as a constant wheel of opponents, this isn't a one-time show; we're doing many seasons.

If Xian wins against 6 and then loses against the 7th, he gets x amount for going that far.
That 7th player will play in the next season against 7 other opponents.

If someone wins 3 and then loses on the 4th, that 4th player will play the remaining opponents of that season and go on to the next season to play his remaining foes (of the 7 total to get 25k).

Hope that makes more sense. Seasons are purely cut for production reasons; meaning we have limited time and limited number of players at that moment and the next season, we continue right back where we were last time.

All in all, everyone gets a chance at 25k and need to win against 7 opponents either within the same season or in new seasons.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
January 29 2014 20:58 GMT
#7893
I can't believe what Alioune is doing the Xian right now. This is turning out to be a pretty good episode
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 29 2014 21:08 GMT
#7894
Alioune is weird sometimes. He's a 6 foot tall black guy but act so shy and reserved lol.
Dat Cammy tho
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
SantosPhillipCarlo
Profile Joined September 2013
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 21:19:24
January 29 2014 21:10 GMT
#7895
Oh, boy. We've got an upset!

Episode 1
Mike Ross (E. Honda) - 4 <Historic Distillery> Xian (Gen) - 7

Episode 2
Filipino Champ (Dhalsim) - 3 <Exciting Street Scene> Xian (Gen) - 7

Episode 3
Alioune (Cammy) - 7 <Training Stage> Xian (Gen) - 3

Episode 4
Alioune (Cammy) <?> Tokido (Akuma)

Poll: Favorite series so far?

Set 3 - Alioune vs. Xian (5)
 
71%

Set 1 - Mike Ross vs. Xian (1)
 
14%

Set 2 - Filipino Champ vs. Xian (1)
 
14%

7 total votes

Your vote: Favorite series so far?

(Vote): Set 1 - Mike Ross vs. Xian
(Vote): Set 2 - Filipino Champ vs. Xian
(Vote): Set 3 - Alioune vs. Xian



All our dreams can come true if we have the courage to pursue them. - Walt Disney
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
January 29 2014 21:17 GMT
#7896
lol this frodan video..
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 29 2014 21:19 GMT
#7897
On January 30 2014 04:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
You must win 7 in a row to get 25k. Players who are still continuing to play come back to the next season (:
If you lose, you get a smaller amount as per shown in our infographic and a new foe is selected.

Think of it as a constant wheel of opponents, this isn't a one-time show; we're doing many seasons.

If Xian wins against 6 and then loses against the 7th, he gets x amount for going that far.
That 7th player will play in the next season against 7 other opponents.

If someone wins 3 and then loses on the 4th, that 4th player will play the remaining opponents of that season and go on to the next season to play his remaining foes (of the 7 total to get 25k).

Hope that makes more sense. Seasons are purely cut for production reasons; meaning we have limited time and limited number of players at that moment and the next season, we continue right back where we were last time.

All in all, everyone gets a chance at 25k and need to win against 7 opponents either within the same season or in new seasons.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Ah ok that makes more sense. Guess colluding isnt the best option after all. But its really hard for people who just watch the show to understand the format completely, should definitely try to explain it better in the show.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 29 2014 21:23 GMT
#7898
Yeah, I think we'll try and push that in each episode instead of explaining how Street Fighter works haha
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
UltraDavid
Profile Joined July 2010
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 21:36:26
January 29 2014 21:27 GMT
#7899
wow, a straight up cat call whistle at the women huh? that makes me want nothing to do with this

i'd been watching the end of the original broadcast then caught the start of the replay, saw this, and pressed ctrl+f4 immediately
Checkin emails and kickin Cheats in the hereafter
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 21:53:32
January 29 2014 21:52 GMT
#7900
there are so many weird ass decisions being made by the production team I question how experienced they actually are. I don't want to beat a dead horse with the issues I pointed out with the Hstone or Sc2 casts so I'll point out something new.

The picture in picture of frodan during the countdown.

Why is the interesting, fun, and engaging content in a 2x2 box on the side of the screen and the main focus is on a boring splash page timer? Why not make Frodan's segment the main focus and include a timer on that screen or in the corner etc?

How on earth does it make sense for real content to be squished to the side so everyone can see a big ass boring timer?

I know I sound like a mad rager, and maybe I am but it just blows my mind how decisions like these can be made, it really irritates me. These events aren't live and I've heard they're in editing for up to 3 weeks. This is amateur hour if a noob like myself can consistently see broadcasts riddled with errors or questionable decisions. I can't imagine what a professional producer would think of the shows. I guess I'm just ragey cause i hate my job and would love a sustainable income in esports and then I see people who get the chance and just fuck it all up with easy ass shit.
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