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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 07:20:05
November 15 2013 07:06 GMT
#7261
Popi streaming playing the PC version of this game now!
Edit: I think I saw that he opened the GFWL overlay
Edit2: It was PC, he even said that it has better netcode than Xbox360
EZ4ENCE
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 15 2013 12:56 GMT
#7262
Yeah Popi plays on PC pretty often, he can only stream from it and not the Xbox version right now.

By the way, Zhi tweeted a bunch of infos sur Ultra, and delayed wake up is confirmed
Red focus input is MP+MK+ any other attack button ( byebye throw+focus OS )
Red focua canceled from a move ( cost 4 bars ) crumple on lvl 1

+ a bunch of stuff about where they took the 4 new characters moves.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12256 Posts
November 15 2013 15:57 GMT
#7263
Red focus crumple damage is also unscaled. As for the throw+focus OS, that would still be possible to do if you didn't have 2 bars to activate red focus.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
November 15 2013 18:48 GMT
#7264
On November 15 2013 21:56 Noocta wrote:
Red focua canceled from a move ( cost 4 bars ) crumple on lvl 1

With the unscaled thing, this sounds like a god-send for characters with supers that can't be combo'd into (demons, etc). Very excited to see how Ultra stuff develops, even the stuff that starts out as way too good (and/or stays that way, unchanged).
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
November 15 2013 18:56 GMT
#7265
fuck you capcom, most likely kara-focus won't be available for claw anymore

...

fuck you capcom
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12256 Posts
November 15 2013 19:01 GMT
#7266
On November 16 2013 03:48 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2013 21:56 Noocta wrote:
Red focua canceled from a move ( cost 4 bars ) crumple on lvl 1

With the unscaled thing, this sounds like a god-send for characters with supers that can't be combo'd into (demons, etc). Very excited to see how Ultra stuff develops, even the stuff that starts out as way too good (and/or stays that way, unchanged).


Except you wouldn't be able to red focus combo into any Super because by definition a Super requires 4 bars and red focus costs 2. Unless you meant Ultras. In any case, I'm not expecting "unscaled" to mean "resets the current scaling to 100%" but rather "doesn't impose a 20% penalty like a normal focus." So, an Akuma c.mk xx fireball xx Lv1 red focus crumple ultra 1 wouldn't do 100% on the Ultra but rather 100% (c.mk) 100% (fireball) 90% (ultra 1).
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 21:01:42
November 15 2013 20:34 GMT
#7267
On November 16 2013 04:01 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2013 03:48 Duka08 wrote:
On November 15 2013 21:56 Noocta wrote:
Red focua canceled from a move ( cost 4 bars ) crumple on lvl 1

With the unscaled thing, this sounds like a god-send for characters with supers that can't be combo'd into (demons, etc). Very excited to see how Ultra stuff develops, even the stuff that starts out as way too good (and/or stays that way, unchanged).


Except you wouldn't be able to red focus combo into any Super because by definition a Super requires 4 bars and red focus costs 2. Unless you meant Ultras. In any case, I'm not expecting "unscaled" to mean "resets the current scaling to 100%" but rather "doesn't impose a 20% penalty like a normal focus." So, an Akuma c.mk xx fireball xx Lv1 red focus crumple ultra 1 wouldn't do 100% on the Ultra but rather 100% (c.mk) 100% (fireball) 90% (ultra 1).

Sorry I may have mislead. I meant if you have a full super bar, red focus cancel lvl 1 crumpling (+unscaled) allows for extremely easy openings into damaging combos. Obviously they'll then be meterless combos, but it's still a nice offensive option for characters that don't get AS much out of having a full meter.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
November 15 2013 20:43 GMT
#7268
DP redFADC sounds just slightly less bullshit than the current DP FADC.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
November 15 2013 21:25 GMT
#7269
On November 16 2013 05:43 ain wrote:
DP redFADC sounds just slightly less bullshit than the current DP FADC.

why would you ever want to redfadc? 4 meters for the same result as a regular fadc?
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
2stra
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands928 Posts
November 15 2013 21:33 GMT
#7270
Why would you ever use red focus to fadc an uppercut? Besides the occasional gamble on a blocked dp regular focus seems to be the superior option on hit/block.

I'm kinda excited for delayed wake-up, hopefully it will mean that there will be more emphasis on the neutral game.

Still no fifth character tho
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
November 15 2013 21:39 GMT
#7271
In ultra DP FADC forward will be unsafe on block. Red focus will be the only way to continue pressure afterwards.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 15 2013 22:00 GMT
#7272


Just found these ( two other in related video ), it's pretty funny to see Ultras from that angle.
Makoto's U1 look even more painful lol.

And I just realized right now that Fei Long Ultra 2 ends with Bruce Lee One Inch Punch.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
November 15 2013 22:13 GMT
#7273
On November 16 2013 07:00 Noocta wrote:
And I just realized right now that Fei Long Ultra 2 ends with Bruce Lee One Inch Punch.


Hell yeah that's why I never use Fei's U1. Matchups be damned!
zelgadissan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States389 Posts
November 16 2013 00:11 GMT
#7274
Am I the only who thinks almost every ultra looks way cooler that way?
"It's like Detroit in there" "Lots of shootings and damaged buildings" - Artosis/Tasteless
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
November 16 2013 02:27 GMT
#7275
can someone tell me in noob or laymans terms what the new changes mean ?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 16 2013 02:58 GMT
#7276
I've been really happy to see valle streaming so much lately + Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/leveluplive
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-16 03:37:41
November 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#7277
Valle is an awesome stream.
His endless lobbies get dominated by a few players sometimes tho, it gets old somewhat fast. But MLSwear is a godly Hakan if I ever saw one.

Uncle Valle still there to take back some ChonChon tho !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
November 16 2013 11:27 GMT
#7278
On November 16 2013 09:11 zelgadissan wrote:
Am I the only who thinks almost every ultra looks way cooler that way?


Nope
knuckle
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
November 16 2013 12:31 GMT
#7279
On November 16 2013 11:27 KDot2 wrote:
can someone tell me in noob or laymans terms what the new changes mean ?

Red focus attack is like the normal focus attack, except it costs 2 meters, can absorb any amount of hits and becomes unblockable faster.

Delayed wake-up means you will be able to choose to lie down a bit longer after you get knocked down which makes it slightly harder to apply pressure after knockdowns.

The new ultra option will allow you to pick both your characters ultras at once at a damage reduction.
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
November 16 2013 13:00 GMT
#7280
I think everyone is forgetting something that absolutely needs to be added to the new version of Street Fighter.

THE OPTION TO DISABLE THAT ANNOUNCER VOICE GOD DAMN.

Anyway I don't know how I feel about red focusing. It seems like you'll be even more screwed now once you find yourself in the corner. Couldn't someone just hypothetically corner you and burn two bars for an almost guaranteed crumple?
Not bad for a cat toy.
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