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fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
October 19 2013 12:07 GMT
#7061
Capcom Cup Korean Qualifiers
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 19 2013 15:20 GMT
#7062
I missed all this InfilOni stuff. Must scour for vods!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 19 2013 15:33 GMT
#7063
On October 19 2013 16:15 Aylear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 10:41 Noocta wrote:
Holy shit, I finally did all of C.Viper trials. Just got the hang of the sjc cancel into Ultra. That fucker has been on my list to thing to learn for soon a year.
Best fucking feeling ever.

Dude, congrats. As a former Viper main I know how hard it is initially. Happy for you, mate. ♥


Thanks. It's not as hard as I always though it was. Although I still can only link it from a medium, doing the motion from a light is insanely fast. Need to learn doing it consistently because linking it in a combo is a bit harder than just practicing stM / crMP / crMK into Ultra.

Who won the Korean qualifier by the way ?
The thing started right when I went to sleep, couldn't bring myself to stay awake.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9049 Posts
October 19 2013 16:26 GMT
#7064
has anyone finished a character's trials with a keyboard?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 19 2013 16:43 GMT
#7065
On October 20 2013 01:26 Garnet wrote:
has anyone finished a character's trials with a keyboard?


I've done some characters' trials on keyboard, I find it easier than using pad.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 19 2013 17:14 GMT
#7066
On October 20 2013 01:26 Garnet wrote:
has anyone finished a character's trials with a keyboard?

Does it really matter what input device a player uses? I've seen pro-players doing just fine using both fight pads and "normal" controllers
EZ4ENCE
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
October 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#7067
On October 20 2013 01:26 Garnet wrote:
has anyone finished a character's trials with a keyboard?


I have. I'm exclusively KB and I've done most of the trials in the game, including completion with Viper, Gen, Vega -- a lot of the hard-to-use tech characters. The only problems I have are with 360 characters, especially T. Hawk for some reason. I just don't play them or I'd probably have the hotkeys down pat.

Being on a KB is like using a hitbox in most ways. Technically superior to sticks in some ways, inferior in others.
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ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
October 19 2013 18:59 GMT
#7068
On October 20 2013 02:14 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 01:26 Garnet wrote:
has anyone finished a character's trials with a keyboard?

Does it really matter what input device a player uses? I've seen pro-players doing just fine using both fight pads and "normal" controllers

Depends on character. Some are much easier to play depending on whether you use a stick, controller, hitbox or keyboard. Some are harder to play on some devices, for example characters with mash moves like Gen, Honda... are tricky on a controller.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 20 2013 03:55 GMT
#7069
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.

Out of curiosity, like what? Finally hit up the vods and it's great to see Oni being played competitively, but like, idk there wasn't anything that mindblowing in my opinion. I did like all of his punish supers though. I rarely punish on block with super, but I'm not sure why. Should definitely keep that in mind more often.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
October 20 2013 08:39 GMT
#7070
On October 20 2013 12:55 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.

Out of curiosity, like what? Finally hit up the vods and it's great to see Oni being played competitively, but like, idk there wasn't anything that mindblowing in my opinion. I did like all of his punish supers though. I rarely punish on block with super, but I'm not sure why. Should definitely keep that in mind more often.


Kara super off f.mk for one, my hands aren't nearly fast enough to do that.
YulyaVolkova
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom95 Posts
October 20 2013 09:18 GMT
#7071
On October 20 2013 17:39 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 12:55 Duka08 wrote:
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.

Out of curiosity, like what? Finally hit up the vods and it's great to see Oni being played competitively, but like, idk there wasn't anything that mindblowing in my opinion. I did like all of his punish supers though. I rarely punish on block with super, but I'm not sure why. Should definitely keep that in mind more often.


Kara super off f.mk for one, my hands aren't nearly fast enough to do that.


f+jab+mk x 2, df+hp+lk
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 20 2013 15:01 GMT
#7072
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.


I wasn't aware of the airbackdash OS U1 to catch DP's. That was amazing lol
Forever Young
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
October 20 2013 17:13 GMT
#7073
On October 21 2013 00:01 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.


I wasn't aware of the airbackdash OS U1 to catch DP's. That was amazing lol


I may be missing something but how was that an OS? It seemed like he just did the flashy equivalent of backdashing to bait out an uppercut (though I guess maybe you could catch people reacting to the jump; they would need to have faster reactions than I have).
IM THE SHIT BITCH
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 20 2013 17:17 GMT
#7074
On October 21 2013 02:13 sOda~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 00:01 sung_moon wrote:
On October 19 2013 19:56 Mannerheim wrote:
As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.


I wasn't aware of the airbackdash OS U1 to catch DP's. That was amazing lol


I may be missing something but how was that an OS? It seemed like he just did the flashy equivalent of backdashing to bait out an uppercut (though I guess maybe you could catch people reacting to the jump; they would need to have faster reactions than I have).


Yeah it's just a reaction, not an Option Select. :p
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 17:33:11
October 20 2013 17:32 GMT
#7075
It's kind of an OS. The Ultra only comes out if the air dash hits the opponent. If the air dash whiffs you just back air dash and no Ultra. It's just awkward to hit usually because it depends on where in their jump arc the opponent is (Oni basically has to be at the same height or below the opponent when the air dash connects)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
October 20 2013 17:35 GMT
#7076
I don't know much about Oni but pretty sure from the way Zhi/Xian described it, if Yun DP'd, backdash would stuff it and then cancel into ultra. If Yun simply blocks/backdashes or w/e it doesn't come out.
Forever Young
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 19:54:49
October 20 2013 19:16 GMT
#7077
On October 21 2013 02:35 sung_moon wrote:
I don't know much about Oni but pretty sure from the way Zhi/Xian described it, if Yun DP'd, backdash would stuff it and then cancel into ultra. If Yun simply blocks/backdashes or w/e it doesn't come out.

Right. I was saying that the air-backdash + Ultra is always an "OS". In that, if the backdash hits, the ultra will come out, and if it doesn't Oni just coasts backward as usual.

Infiltration's application of this fact to a wake-up DP is REALLY cool, especially since TK'd air dashes are a bit awkward. So even though it was a fairly well known trick (air backdash -> air Ultra 1), the application to the wake up game and the execution are still a treat to watch.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 22:08:20
October 20 2013 21:02 GMT
#7078
Which match specifically did this happen in? I haven't seen it myself.

edit: thanks
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
October 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#7079


4:30
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 21 2013 02:58 GMT
#7080
Oni is so fun to watch.
Especially with Zhi and Xian being " What was that " like half the time haha
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
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