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On October 14 2013 21:06 YulyaVolkova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 17:40 Krohm wrote:
Are PC players more weak than Console players? I'm pushing 3500 PP on PC, but I can't seem to break 2500PP on Xbox. It's bizarre. Ignore ranked, find good players, play them :o). Same regardless of platform!
There is some more PP inflation on PC than console, because PC is the platform that probably gets the most new players with the constant Steam sales and the online culture surrounding PC. So you probably will find weaker players at the same PP as on console. That being said, a strong player is a strong player regardless of platform and you can probably find strong players on PC if you look for them.
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I don't know if I'm just in a funk lately or what but I dropped about 500 BP this weekend even though I feel like I'm playing better and better, both mentally and execution. I fooled around some with other chars which is fun for a time and I feel like it improved my mindset and footsies, but going back to my main I just started shedding BP. It wasn't because I was out of practice, when I say I dabbled with other chars it's really only a couple dozen games total and inbetween sets I'd still pick my main when I was in the mood. And I've been in training mode quite a bit too just trying stuff out and grinding out BnBs. But even though I'm happier with the way I'm playing my points is all dropping yo. Strange and frustrating. Oh well.
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On October 15 2013 00:19 Arolis wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2013 21:06 YulyaVolkova wrote:On October 14 2013 17:40 Krohm wrote:
Are PC players more weak than Console players? I'm pushing 3500 PP on PC, but I can't seem to break 2500PP on Xbox. It's bizarre. Ignore ranked, find good players, play them :o). Same regardless of platform! There is some more PP inflation on PC than console, because PC is the platform that probably gets the most new players with the constant Steam sales and the online culture surrounding PC. So you probably will find weaker players at the same PP as on console. That being said, a strong player is a strong player regardless of platform and you can probably find strong players on PC if you look for them.
I meant that PP in general is fairly meaningless (not entirely, but close). Pretty much the only thing you can get from it is that if somebody is roughly 3k+ it probably means they're likely not completely awful, if theyre 4k+ they're at least a bit better than that and if they're 5k+ theyre very unlikely to be bad. Thats generally the same nomatter the platform and is about as far as you can go with it. Whether we set the bar at 2.5k or 3.5k for some level doesn't particularly matter when theres a wide range of skill levels that will endlessly swing between the two depending on how hot they're running.
The 'Same regardless of platform' I said was referring to the idea that you should hunt down good players (they exist on every platform), friend list them and play them. Fuck ranked - playing complete morons 8/10 games doesn't do a whole lot for your skill level and just wastes time. Find someone good, play them in long sets, learn matchups, woo! Failing that host/join Endless lobbys until you find someone that seems competent/challenging and play them for as long as theyll let you. Going to ranked occasionally to specifically practice getting reads+exploiting people especially quickly is definitely useful though. Almost like training 'How not to lose games to people I REALLY shouldn't lose games to', ie consistency.
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On October 15 2013 04:10 YulyaVolkova wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2013 00:19 Arolis wrote:On October 14 2013 21:06 YulyaVolkova wrote:On October 14 2013 17:40 Krohm wrote:
Are PC players more weak than Console players? I'm pushing 3500 PP on PC, but I can't seem to break 2500PP on Xbox. It's bizarre. Ignore ranked, find good players, play them :o). Same regardless of platform! There is some more PP inflation on PC than console, because PC is the platform that probably gets the most new players with the constant Steam sales and the online culture surrounding PC. So you probably will find weaker players at the same PP as on console. That being said, a strong player is a strong player regardless of platform and you can probably find strong players on PC if you look for them. I meant that PP in general is fairly meaningless (not entirely, but close). Pretty much the only thing you can get from it is that if somebody is roughly 3k+ it probably means they're likely not completely awful, if theyre 4k+ they're at least a bit better than that and if they're 5k+ theyre very unlikely to be bad. Thats generally the same nomatter the platform and is about as far as you can go with it. Whether we set the bar at 2.5k or 3.5k for some level doesn't particularly matter when theres a wide range of skill levels that will endlessly swing between the two depending on how hot they're running. The 'Same regardless of platform' I said was referring to the idea that you should hunt down good players (they exist on every platform), friend list them and play them. Fuck ranked - playing complete morons 8/10 games doesn't do a whole lot for your skill level and just wastes time. Find someone good, play them in long sets, learn matchups, woo! Failing that host/join Endless lobbys until you find someone that seems competent/challenging and play them for as long as theyll let you. Going to ranked occasionally to specifically practice getting reads+exploiting people especially quickly is definitely useful though. Almost like training 'How not to lose games to people I REALLY shouldn't lose games to', ie consistency.
That bolded part. I know that so well 
I very rarely come across good players. But it's definitely a suggestion I should take. I'll have to start doing that.
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In the spirit of "ranked is bad find people to play with", is the TL group for this game still active? I know I'm a part of it but I never see anyone in chat when I pop in.
If any of the regulars in this thread are around 1000PP or less, I'd love to spar sometime. In fact, I'd LOVE to play with anyone, regardless of PP. I'm happy to get my ass beat repeatedly as long as I'm trying, learning, and playing someone who isn't a random nut. I just feel those folks wouldn't want to waste their time lol.
Steam: RC
XBL/GFWL tag: Duka08
500-1000PP
Main: Oni (~4500BP)
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Man, my Viper is getting better, but everytime I play against my friend who plays a great Juri, I want to kill myself.
That match up is broken, everything you do can whiff if she use crMK. She's like humping the floor, even things like F.Throw dash dash jHP / JHK are whiffing, it's crazy.
Even at long range, trying to play the seismo game is very risky, because she can whiff punish seismo from full screen with her divekick.
I have no idea what to do lol. How can I make her stop hitting buttons everytime I try a mix up ?
She's like, not afraid at all of my options, it's very frustrating.
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I just played a few matches against a Juri. Very frustrating character to play against. I like her and would play her if the whole holding-the-fireball thing didn't get me so mindfucked. But yeah she's a very difficult character to read in my opinion, and her longer-range dive kicks make me afraid to throw my shit-recovery fireballs, which lets her do whatever she wants with her own. I feel like it's definitely a character where I need to feel out the opponent and play against them and their tendencies rather than just play the match up.
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Holy shit, I finally did all of C.Viper trials. Just got the hang of the sjc cancel into Ultra. That fucker has been on my list to thing to learn for soon a year.
Best fucking feeling ever.
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On October 19 2013 10:41 Noocta wrote:
Holy shit, I finally did all of C.Viper trials. Just got the hang of the sjc cancel into Ultra. That fucker has been on my list to thing to learn for soon a year.
Best fucking feeling ever.
Dude, congrats. As a former Viper main I know how hard it is initially. Happy for you, mate. ♥
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Infiltration Oni is a God.
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holy shit that makoto vs adon match lololol. so many ultras
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This Infiltration vs Momochi game is freaking crazy.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Infiltration Ryu too godlike. Oni too godlike. Akuma too godlike.
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definitely would recommend that infiltration vs momochi match
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Gawd damn those Ryu reads by Infiltration!
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congrats to infiltration and momochi, but you gotta feel for hoodaman there
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As a Oni main my jaw is on the floor. Infiltration was doing things I didn't even know worked.
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What tournament are you talking about?
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