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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 30 2013 17:49 GMT
#5941
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 17:53:31
May 30 2013 17:53 GMT
#5942
Xian is soooo patient.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 30 2013 22:46 GMT
#5943
Bonchan is Infiltration/Sako tier.

rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
May 31 2013 01:45 GMT
#5944
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.

FADC
azeotropes
Profile Joined May 2011
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 03:05:09
May 31 2013 03:03 GMT
#5945
On May 30 2013 06:27 Fiercegore wrote:
Hey, is there any information on how to get a PS3 Arcade Stick (Madcatz TE) to work on PC? My computer recognizes that it's there "PC USB Wired Stick 8838" but I can't set any bindings in sf4. I know there's been a problem with AMD and Madcatz PS3 but is it normal for my computer to update the drivers and recognize that it's plugged in? Or is an adapter still required?


I've had this issue. Hopefully the computer you're talking about is a desktop. You have to buy a PCI card with a VIA chipset. You don't need additional drivers. Read this link for more info.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/56258/madcatz-ps3-te-fightstick-pc-xp-vista-win7-32-64bit-read-1st-post

[edit]
Whops. should have read the reply more carefully. The youtube video has the solution.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 31 2013 03:03 GMT
#5946
If you are a scrub like me, they are the ultimate comeback factor. Wakeup ultra for the win \TriHard/
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
May 31 2013 03:50 GMT
#5947
So I'm going to my first tournament this Saturday, it's going to be streams, so I'm hoping to make it on stream. However, I think that I'm getting nervous. I'm not positive, because it's not the "traditional" nervousness that I'm used to, but rather whenever I play online, or practice my combos in training mode and make dumb mistakes, I actually get frustrated, but not quite mad. I have caught myself slashing my hand through the air after a dropped combo or a "dumb trade".

This isn't normal for me, if I do something stupid, I normally just have a quick twitch with my left eye and I'm back in my game. I'm scared that this might affect my game in a negative way because I have almost thrown away a game because of this frustration.

Is this normal that your reactions change right before a tournament?

For that matter, I play Rose, but a really rush down Rose. I also play Yun, but I'm too relentless for my own good with Yun, so I'm thinking of going out with Rose here. Does anyone have any tips on what to practice for before a tournament?

+ Show Spoiler +
Well this pretty much turned out to be a blog post, sorry. I guess?
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
May 31 2013 04:56 GMT
#5948
On May 31 2013 12:50 2WeaK wrote:
So I'm going to my first tournament this Saturday, it's going to be streams, so I'm hoping to make it on stream. However, I think that I'm getting nervous. I'm not positive, because it's not the "traditional" nervousness that I'm used to, but rather whenever I play online, or practice my combos in training mode and make dumb mistakes, I actually get frustrated, but not quite mad. I have caught myself slashing my hand through the air after a dropped combo or a "dumb trade".

This isn't normal for me, if I do something stupid, I normally just have a quick twitch with my left eye and I'm back in my game. I'm scared that this might affect my game in a negative way because I have almost thrown away a game because of this frustration.

Is this normal that your reactions change right before a tournament?

For that matter, I play Rose, but a really rush down Rose. I also play Yun, but I'm too relentless for my own good with Yun, so I'm thinking of going out with Rose here. Does anyone have any tips on what to practice for before a tournament?

+ Show Spoiler +
Well this pretty much turned out to be a blog post, sorry. I guess?


Sleep well, eat well, those are the most important things.

As far as nerves and stuff I guess I don't have any advice, since I don't have those problems, but I would just recommend going into the tournament with no expectations. I have no idea how good you are compared to the other people in this tournament, but regardless, you shouldn't expect to be on stream and you shouldn't expect to win the tournament. Just go there to hang out and have fun, and incidentally play some games of Street Fighter between that.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 05:22:50
May 31 2013 05:21 GMT
#5949
On May 31 2013 12:50 2WeaK wrote:
So I'm going to my first tournament this Saturday, it's going to be streams, so I'm hoping to make it on stream. However, I think that I'm getting nervous. I'm not positive, because it's not the "traditional" nervousness that I'm used to, but rather whenever I play online, or practice my combos in training mode and make dumb mistakes, I actually get frustrated, but not quite mad. I have caught myself slashing my hand through the air after a dropped combo or a "dumb trade".

This isn't normal for me, if I do something stupid, I normally just have a quick twitch with my left eye and I'm back in my game. I'm scared that this might affect my game in a negative way because I have almost thrown away a game because of this frustration.

Is this normal that your reactions change right before a tournament?

For that matter, I play Rose, but a really rush down Rose. I also play Yun, but I'm too relentless for my own good with Yun, so I'm thinking of going out with Rose here. Does anyone have any tips on what to practice for before a tournament?

+ Show Spoiler +
Well this pretty much turned out to be a blog post, sorry. I guess?

When I played my first SSF4AE tournament (which was on a small gaming expo/conference in Sweden), I had barely touched the game at all :p But if you want a tip from me, I would say try to have fun while you play. Even if it won't go your way result wise, still try to have a fun time. I went out directly in the tournament I played, but I still had an awesome time at the expo/conference that the tournament took place in. I meet lots of new, nice people that weekend (and even one of the best SF-pros in Sweden)

As for character to play, I'll say play whatever you feel comfortable with. If you like Rose (like I also do), play her. Do you like Yun, play him. Like any other character, play that character.
EZ4ENCE
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
May 31 2013 05:36 GMT
#5950
On May 31 2013 12:50 2WeaK wrote:
So I'm going to my first tournament this Saturday, it's going to be streams, so I'm hoping to make it on stream. However, I think that I'm getting nervous. I'm not positive, because it's not the "traditional" nervousness that I'm used to, but rather whenever I play online, or practice my combos in training mode and make dumb mistakes, I actually get frustrated, but not quite mad. I have caught myself slashing my hand through the air after a dropped combo or a "dumb trade".

This isn't normal for me, if I do something stupid, I normally just have a quick twitch with my left eye and I'm back in my game. I'm scared that this might affect my game in a negative way because I have almost thrown away a game because of this frustration.

Is this normal that your reactions change right before a tournament?

For that matter, I play Rose, but a really rush down Rose. I also play Yun, but I'm too relentless for my own good with Yun, so I'm thinking of going out with Rose here. Does anyone have any tips on what to practice for before a tournament?

+ Show Spoiler +
Well this pretty much turned out to be a blog post, sorry. I guess?


try playing with headphones on to drown out external sound
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 11:14:31
May 31 2013 11:12 GMT
#5951
Words of wisdom: When you try hard and try to win and play as well as possible, you will drop everything. When you just don't give a shit and chat with your friends while playing, you will perform amazing combos you didn't even think were possible for you to perform(Speaking from experience). Well, it doesn't have to be combos, but if you try a lot of weird things "I wonder if this will work" "hmm it would make sense for this to work but I've thought that it was too risky normally but whatever let's go for it..." at least for me things will go way better
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 31 2013 11:24 GMT
#5952
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



Well, I can't really complain about Ultra with which characters I play... D;
They even said they're probably going to nerf command grab into Ultra so..
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
noFear
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada36 Posts
May 31 2013 12:48 GMT
#5953
On May 31 2013 12:50 2WeaK wrote:
So I'm going to my first tournament this Saturday, it's going to be streams, so I'm hoping to make it on stream. However, I think that I'm getting nervous. I'm not positive, because it's not the "traditional" nervousness that I'm used to, but rather whenever I play online, or practice my combos in training mode and make dumb mistakes, I actually get frustrated, but not quite mad. I have caught myself slashing my hand through the air after a dropped combo or a "dumb trade".

This isn't normal for me, if I do something stupid, I normally just have a quick twitch with my left eye and I'm back in my game. I'm scared that this might affect my game in a negative way because I have almost thrown away a game because of this frustration.

Is this normal that your reactions change right before a tournament?

For that matter, I play Rose, but a really rush down Rose. I also play Yun, but I'm too relentless for my own good with Yun, so I'm thinking of going out with Rose here. Does anyone have any tips on what to practice for before a tournament?

+ Show Spoiler +
Well this pretty much turned out to be a blog post, sorry. I guess?


I don't have much experience with tournaments, I only participated in 2 of them, but I think I can still give you some advices ^^. First, and I know this might sound like a loser attitude, but I tried to approach my first tournament with a very laidback style, I didn't expect a very high tournament finish. There's a couple of little reasons behind that kind of thinking:

1- Because I knew where I stood knowledge and skill wise, so my main goal going in there was experience
2- Because I always try to have a realistic mindset. I've been through a lot of different competition environment, therefore knowing the players I would face beforehand, I knew I probably would get my face stomped.

Now, this can probably sound like I'm going in knowing I will lose... I gave my all going in there, don't get me wrong, but this caused 2 things. I was able to get in there with a clear mind, play a solid game that I knew was reflecting the level of play I was at. Again, I wanted tournament experience, far more than I wanted to win this thing. This also removed a lot of unwanted stress, I was able to enjoy my games and put everything I had into it.

In the end that tournament was probably the most meaningful experience I've got, and I only one 1 game. I ended up learning a lot from the casuals before the game, I was able to speak to a lot of the better contestants about matchups, how I can improve, and most of all, watching them go through the tournament. I got on stream against Dieminion on my second match, got stomped hard, however I was very happy with how it turned out and from what I learned from the match.

Wow I wrote way too much... anyway! I'll end on this, enjoy your tournament and speak to people! There's no need for you to be stressed over it, in the end you'll end up playing the game like you usually do anyway

Have fun
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
May 31 2013 12:58 GMT
#5954
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
May 31 2013 13:27 GMT
#5955
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 31 2013 14:46 GMT
#5956
On May 31 2013 22:27 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)


Ultra are hype :p
I wouldn't mind if they did a bit less damage tho. Perhaps if Ultra only used half of the Ultra meter. You can use them twice and for the half damage everytime.

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
May 31 2013 14:55 GMT
#5957
On May 31 2013 23:46 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 22:27 Duka08 wrote:
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)


Ultra are hype :p
I wouldn't mind if they did a bit less damage tho. Perhaps if Ultra only used half of the Ultra meter. You can use them twice and for the half damage everytime.


I've actually had this thought before. As in, ultra activates after the same amount of damage as it does right now, but then stays static and doesn't get better as you get lower and lower. I think that'd be cool.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind ultras, because as a comeback mechanic they're quite avoidable, and when used properly as a combo finisher (FADC, etc, the classic) they don't do nearly as much damage as raw, obviously. Mostly I just dislike the idea of comeback mechanics as a whole. But Ultras are well done in that regard at least. Well, most of them...
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-31 15:38:08
May 31 2013 15:35 GMT
#5958
On May 31 2013 22:27 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)


Is that not what ultras are about? If your opponent doesn't respect it then they will lose their advantage -_-

Besides, you can still make a comeback without an ultra, just have pro reads on your opponent. Though that will likely involve burning meter.

Again though, without comeback potential this game would be far less interesting. It's not particularly entertaining to see someone essentially win as soon as they gain an advantage early on....
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12256 Posts
May 31 2013 15:52 GMT
#5959
On June 01 2013 00:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 22:27 Duka08 wrote:
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)


Is that not what ultras are about? If your opponent doesn't respect it then they will lose their advantage -_-

Besides, you can still make a comeback without an ultra, just have pro reads on your opponent. Though that will likely involve burning meter.

Again though, without comeback potential this game would be far less interesting. It's not particularly entertaining to see someone essentially win as soon as they gain an advantage early on....


On the contrary, it's not entertaining when someone throws out a random ultra for 40-60% damage and wins a round. All that work that one player put in is completely thrown away because the other player happened to do an ultra input. It happens online all the time, even in major tournaments! Those are just rolleyes moments for everyone: the loser, the crowd, even the winner who knows he got lucky.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
May 31 2013 16:10 GMT
#5960
On June 01 2013 00:35 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2013 22:27 Duka08 wrote:
On May 31 2013 21:58 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On May 31 2013 10:45 rwrzr wrote:
On May 31 2013 02:49 Noocta wrote:
Just started to practice again seriously with both Makoto and Viper.
I had a session with a Rufus in a random endless.

God I hate playing against Rufus :D
Nothing more frustrating than fighting a fighter with so much comeback potential


One thing I found really funny is that no one really complains now about how ultra combos are comeback factors.



It would be kind of boring if there was no way to make a comeback wouldn't it ? D:

Yeah, you'd have to do it the old fashioned way. By playing better and outthinking the opponent щ(ಥДಥщ)


Is that not what ultras are about? If your opponent doesn't respect it then they will lose their advantage -_-

Besides, you can still make a comeback without an ultra, just have pro reads on your opponent. Though that will likely involve burning meter.

Again though, without comeback potential this game would be far less interesting. It's not particularly entertaining to see someone essentially win as soon as they gain an advantage early on....

But comebacks without an ultra ARE entertaining. As Excalibur said, I find it much less entertaining when someone lands a random ultra and wins from a 50%~ disadvantage. Sure it's usually a situation where you can usually blame the player that's in the lead, but it's completely anti-hype. I couldn't agree less with your sentiment that situations like that make the game more exciting. Maybe to PLAY, sometimes. But as a spectator, it hurts. Plus, even when I am the one that does it, I usually feel guilty lol.
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