On June 01 2013 08:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: but it's such a rarity, especially in high level play. there's a lot of legitimate complaints about sf4, chief among them is how setup-centric the game is right now. untechable knockdown -> guess wrong, eat 400 damage. that's a real legitimate problem, but it doesn't keep the game from being fun. random ultras happen so seldomly, and are ineffective most of the time they appear.
This is my number one complaint about SF4. Who the fuck thought it was good game design to decide if I win a match or not based on a coin-flip decision.
Random ultras are not as bad, but sometimes it really does piss me off that I lose a fucking match FOR WINNING IT. Ugh.
Get better at reading your opponent? It's not a coin-flip....
On June 01 2013 08:56 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: but it's such a rarity, especially in high level play. there's a lot of legitimate complaints about sf4, chief among them is how setup-centric the game is right now. untechable knockdown -> guess wrong, eat 400 damage. that's a real legitimate problem, but it doesn't keep the game from being fun. random ultras happen so seldomly, and are ineffective most of the time they appear.
This is my number one complaint about SF4. Who the fuck thought it was good game design to decide if I win a match or not based on a coin-flip decision.
Random ultras are not as bad, but sometimes it really does piss me off that I lose a fucking match FOR WINNING IT. Ugh.
Get better at reading your opponent? It's not a coin-flip....
also unblockables are definitely not coinflips, they're pretty much guaranteed damage lol
the #1 rule of sf4 right now is "don't fucking get knocked down". take it as you will, i still find the game extraordinarily fun, and high level play is still deep and interesting
On June 02 2013 03:13 HeatEXTEND wrote: Annoyed by endless 50/50 situations ?
Millia would like a word with you
tbh the way more annoying thing about ultras is that the cutscenes get hella old. I like the ones that don't activate custscenes.
I was gonna say, I love Guilty Gear (probably my favorite game), but saying it has less 50/50 situations than SF4 is pretty dubious lol.
Frankly, mixups are just a part of fighting games, and they're an important part. The only question is how easy they are to set up, and how much reward you get from them. UMvC3 is at the extreme high end of the spectrum with easy mixups into 100% damage, while I feel SF4 is towards the lower end.
There does need to be a way to deactivate cutscenes, because it seems like the developers are getting more and more silly with the length, and it really disrupts the match flow at times.
As a casual player and watcher of SF, I have to say that ultras make the game more interesting, both in terms of playing and watching.
I had a game a while back where I went from having lost ~80% of my health when my opponent hadn't lost anything to wining with one pixel life left. And if I didn't manage to dodge my opponents ultra in time that would never happened.
this thread is not the place for that. make a guilty gear thread if you want to get people into it
I just couldn't resist being an asshole :p
I like SF4 as much as the next guy, but if people find themselves annoyed by it's mechanics (which they shouldn't, what's in the game is in the game :p), they should know there are other games around :p.
You know the only ppl that don't do the any of those things you mentioned (except yolo ultras), in any game, are scrubs. GG without 50/50s...
AND OH SHIT BASED GOD GINSENG.
Relax Cpt.Flamebait, I never said GG doen't have 50/50s, and in some cases a shitload of them. I never said you shouldn't use those tools if they are available to you, etc. etc..
And "yolo" ultras can be a legit option so yeah...
You know the only ppl that don't do the any of those things you mentioned (except yolo ultras), in any game, are scrubs. GG without 50/50s...
AND OH SHIT BASED GOD GINSENG.
Relax Cpt.Flamebait, I never said GG doen't have 50/50s, and in some cases a shitload of them. I never said you shouldn't use those tools if they are available to you, etc. etc..
And "yolo" ultras can be a legit option so yeah...
There's a fair amount of YOLO Ultra in the second VOD I linked, so yeah. It happens.
this thread is not the place for that. make a guilty gear thread if you want to get people into it
I just couldn't resist being an asshole :p
I like SF4 as much as the next guy, but if people find themselves annoyed by it's mechanics (which they shouldn't, what's in the game is in the game :p), they should know there are other games around :p.
And that depletes my amount of :p for today .
lol you know most fighting game fans don't play just one game right, I think you're preaching to the choir.
this thread is not the place for that. make a guilty gear thread if you want to get people into it
I just couldn't resist being an asshole :p
I like SF4 as much as the next guy, but if people find themselves annoyed by it's mechanics (which they shouldn't, what's in the game is in the game :p), they should know there are other games around :p.
And that depletes my amount of :p for today .
lol you know most fighting game fans don't play just one game right, I think you're preaching to the choir.
TLers are probably more educated than average, but most Capcom players don't give ArcSys games much of a thought. Again though, this kind of discussion probably belongs in the FGC thread instead of here.
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