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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 27 2011 04:27 GMT
#541
holy shit these matches have been amazing. was about to just catch GF and then 1 or 2 matches of AE b4 i moved to 3s, but can't stop now
Forever Young
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 04:58 GMT
#542
Yeah I have mine preordered, hopefully I can get my actual screenname Zlasher this time instead of what I had to use for vanilla.
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 27 2011 06:26 GMT
#543
Uh. I don't think GFWL uses game-specific ids. I think its based on your xbox live/gfwl account name
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 06:37 GMT
#544
I thought that they were saying they're having a different online system for better security n shi, are they sticking with GFWL?
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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 06:44:37
June 27 2011 06:42 GMT
#545
Source

He goes on to day that the game will make use of Games for Windows Live as the online services layer, so that “the replay channels, achievements, friends lists, messaging, etc. are exactly the same as they are on Xbox Live.” There is, however, no cross platform matching or play with Xbox 360 users with the PC version.

“On the security side of things, SFIV unfortunately was plagued by pirates and hackers that messed up leaderboards,” said Svensson. “To hopefully remedy that, SSFIV:AE will be making use of what is called SSA technology – similar to what we used in Dead Rising 2. Like Xbox Live, players will sign in when they launch the game.


edit: better quote
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 06:47 GMT
#546
Ah alright, thanks for the link.
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SuperYo1000
Profile Joined July 2008
United States880 Posts
June 27 2011 07:20 GMT
#547
On June 25 2011 01:12 sung_moon wrote:


lol keeper jin combo next



.......does anyone elses super have the possibility of doing this much damage?(over 600).....how can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
June 27 2011 07:34 GMT
#548
On June 27 2011 16:20 SuperYo1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 01:12 sung_moon wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL1qiLSsNZc&feature=feedu

lol keeper jin combo next



.......does anyone elses super have the possibility of doing this much damage?(over 600).....how can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced


well I have yet to see this combo be used at all in shadowloo showdown or during East Coast Throwdown (which was a guile c.viper finals, go figure right?) If people were pulling off desk combos left and right then you can be sure there'd be a lot more being said but right now Yun is good but he isn't THAT good.

It's simply a good character in a good player's hand that will make the cries for Yun imba ring loud this late July.
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Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 07:59:23
June 27 2011 07:50 GMT
#549
On June 27 2011 16:20 SuperYo1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 01:12 sung_moon wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL1qiLSsNZc&feature=feedu

lol keeper jin combo next


.......does anyone elses super have the possibility of doing this much damage?(over 600).....how can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced


Does anyone else's super have a 2 frame start up like Chun? How can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced.

Is anyone else's super inescapable after the flash like Gief and Akuma? How can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced.

Does anyone else's super connect after a full screen counter hit like Ryu? How can anyone argue that this is remotely balanced.

Just because a super has the potential to do that much doesn't mean it ever will. The only way to do 600 damage is to land a raw fp shoulder while your opponent in the corner. I don't know anyone that's competent at the game that will eat that no matter how mind fucked they are. This combo also takes 5x the execution of a standard genei jin which deals 550 damage in the corner anyway. You also lose one of the strongest parts of genei jin which is the 50/50 at the end. If you modify the kara palm combo to add the 50/50 you get like 30 more damage.

We get it, Yun's a strong character. Shut the fuck up and deal with it. Learn the match up or play them yourself it's not that hard. To land a perfect kara palm with the right timing and spacing every time takes skill. I thought I'd be able to deal with all this whining but I was wrong.

Just going to tack this on. If Yun is so op I'd like to see you use him and wreck. Every time someone complains at my session that Yun is fucking op and easy mode I challenge them to body me with their Yun while I'm using someone else and no one's actually beat me yet. I am no where near the top in my play group and better players who haven't put any time in can't beat me with that fucking ez mode character. What does that tell you?
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 27 2011 07:56 GMT
#550
Damage =/= Balance my good sir
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 08:10 GMT
#551
First of all, the Super itself only does ~520 damage, and if you're comboing into it like a standard BnB it'll damage scale a bit more, so that damage at best.

Second of all, try pulling it off. Then talk

Third. 500 damage super? No, not many characters have it, Fei Long has like 400 damage thats one of the higher damage supers I believe.

Fourth, how is it balanced? Look at #2. Desk has done combos that are like 750+ damage before with evil ryu and shit, you'll never see anyone pull them off in a game.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
June 27 2011 08:18 GMT
#552
On June 07 2011 03:51 broz0rs wrote:
You guys should have seen the last NSB (Nagoya Street Battle). Yun players dominated so hard. I don't think he's broken or anything, but I just think he's by himself in S-tier.


By himself in S tier tends to be fairly broken
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 08:20:01
June 27 2011 08:19 GMT
#553


Chun Li is obviously imbalanced, si there any other character in the game that can stun you in one combo? HERPADERP

edit: Demoninja spitting hot truth. Listen to it.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 08:28 GMT
#554
Hold that

Chun Li is even more broken because she can do a 191 hit combo



How is that balanced?
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 27 2011 15:10 GMT
#555
you guys so funny
Forever Young
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 15:34:03
June 27 2011 15:33 GMT
#556
Wait, what, an imbalanced Capcom game? This is news to me
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 16:05:12
June 27 2011 16:02 GMT
#557
keep in mind the best fighting games are the imbalanced ones. balance does not make a good game. just look at mvc3. game is a hot mess of shit

i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin
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Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
June 27 2011 16:07 GMT
#558
Anyone watch Poongko at Shadowloo?? I love watching that level of skill it makes me think, "Wow seth is so awesome" or "Cant be that hard". Then reality hits when you try hah.
It is what it is
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 27 2011 16:32 GMT
#559
On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote:
i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin

that's probably because when vanilla came out no one was an expert

now everyone's an expert because they watch streams and don't go to tournaments
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12255 Posts
June 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#560
On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote:
keep in mind the best fighting games are the imbalanced ones. balance does not make a good game. just look at mvc3. game is a hot mess of shit

i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin


I think vanilla Sagat felt a little more manageable for most people (well, not for me, I only played Gief so it was a nightmare). Akuma had a good matchup against him, so did Guile and Sim, Ryu wasn't too bad either, and neither was Viper. I feel like the opposite is the case with Fei and the twins where so few characters have decent matchups against them that it's a matter of percentages. In any given forum there are going to be people who play a variety of characters, and most of them are going to have bad matchups against Fei/Yang/Yun, so the problem is more pronounced and relatable now.
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