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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 17:25:29
June 27 2011 17:22 GMT
#561
SF4 Guile was good against SF4 Sagat? You sure about that? This was back before Sonic Boom had less charge time even. :O

Anyway, some SSF4AE tournament results data by characters:
http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/2011/06/super-street-fighter-iv-ae-tournament.html

There's a list of current SBO qualifiers. No, Yun's not on every team.

A couple lower-tier teams qualified too:
Fuerte Inochi (El Fuerte) & Darubisshusan (Dhalsim)
Amyu (Gen) & Noriyasu (Dhalsim)

In terms of tournament winnings, which of course is an indication of both character strength and character popularity, giving 3 points for 1st place, 2 points for 2nd place, and 1 point for 3rd place:
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Cody, Boxer, Ryu, and especially Fei Long are a little lower than I'd expect, while Guile and Blanka are surprisingly up there IMHO. Granted, it looks like 10 of the Guile points are from Dieminion.

edit: though do note that there are a lot of team tournaments represented so some characters could be riding on coattails.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 17:37 GMT
#562
On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote:
keep in mind the best fighting games are the imbalanced ones. balance does not make a good game. just look at mvc3. game is a hot mess of shit

i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin


To be fair, MvC3 is relatively balanced in terms of how many characters are viable in the game, much moreso than in MvC2. Wesker, Taskmaster, Ammy, Tron, Akuma, Wolvie, Phoenix, Sentinel, Magneto, Dante, Dormammu, She Hulk.

On June 28 2011 01:07 Dizmaul wrote:
Anyone watch Poongko at Shadowloo?? I love watching that level of skill it makes me think, "Wow seth is so awesome" or "Cant be that hard". Then reality hits when you try hah.


Well, Poongko is a Seth specialist, and by far the best in the world, second is like Online Tony and thats about it, nobody really plays Seth.

On June 28 2011 01:32 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote:
i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin

that's probably because when vanilla came out no one was an expert

now everyone's an expert because they watch streams and don't go to tournaments


Rofl, I love this post.
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MaGariShun
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria305 Posts
June 27 2011 18:10 GMT
#563
As a total fighting game noob this thread has provided me with some useful insight. So thank you folks I guess. I have already pre-purchased AE and cannot wait til it comes out.

I thought I would play Guile, because I quite like remy in ssf3:3s (only started playing it recently against cpu) and I read he is quite similar to Guile. But today I have seen a Guile mirror video. I'm forever scarred.

PS: Is there some site listing good VoDs?
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 27 2011 18:52 GMT
#564
I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.

But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
June 27 2011 19:15 GMT
#565
On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote:
I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.

But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?


Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him.

I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 27 2011 19:22 GMT
#566
On June 28 2011 04:15 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote:
I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.

But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?


Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him.

I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting

Poongko's 75 hit akuma combo never fails to amuse me (though it's not practical at all)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 27 2011 19:26 GMT
#567
It's pretty hard to compare Tony to Japanese players, I think Kindevu is actually the highest BP rated Seth in Japan since he just plays a lot of characters, but I'd just put them all one tier behind Poongko lol, they're all solid though.
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Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
June 27 2011 20:16 GMT
#568
Super Samus?
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
June 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#569
On June 28 2011 05:16 Playguuu wrote:
Super Samus?


Yea she's gonna be DLC. It'll be interesting to see how she stacks up against Sagat in the keepaway game.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 27 2011 20:22 GMT
#570
On June 28 2011 05:20 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:16 Playguuu wrote:
Super Samus?


Yea she's gonna be DLC. It'll be interesting to see how she stacks up against Sagat in the keepaway game.

Too bad she's gonna be super squishy, just like every other female in the game
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
June 27 2011 20:27 GMT
#571
Pfffft
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
June 27 2011 20:47 GMT
#572
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 22:36:56
June 27 2011 22:34 GMT
#573
On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote:
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.

Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.

What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 27 2011 22:45 GMT
#574
His package in the tanden engine
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 27 2011 22:48 GMT
#575
On June 28 2011 04:15 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote:
I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.

But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?


Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him.

I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting


Same, I was surprised he made top 8, much less win the whole thing.
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
June 28 2011 01:23 GMT
#576
On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote:
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.

Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.

What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package


The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 01:45:08
June 28 2011 01:29 GMT
#577
On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote:
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.

Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.

What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package


The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp.

Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
June 28 2011 01:47 GMT
#578
On June 28 2011 10:29 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:
On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote:
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.

Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.

What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package


The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp.

Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so


Yes, he's the exception not the rule.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12244 Posts
June 28 2011 01:52 GMT
#579
On June 28 2011 10:29 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:
On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote:
If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.

Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.

What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package


The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp.

Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so


He does have bad HP but it's offset by the superior Brazilian blood that runs through his veins.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 28 2011 04:11 GMT
#580
I thought Chun had pretty solid life, but thats because her thighs are GDLK
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