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SF4 Guile was good against SF4 Sagat? You sure about that? This was back before Sonic Boom had less charge time even. :O
Anyway, some SSF4AE tournament results data by characters: http://curryallergy.blogspot.com/2011/06/super-street-fighter-iv-ae-tournament.html
There's a list of current SBO qualifiers. No, Yun's not on every team. 
A couple lower-tier teams qualified too: Fuerte Inochi (El Fuerte) & Darubisshusan (Dhalsim) Amyu (Gen) & Noriyasu (Dhalsim)
In terms of tournament winnings, which of course is an indication of both character strength and character popularity, giving 3 points for 1st place, 2 points for 2nd place, and 1 point for 3rd place:
![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/28b6zr5.jpg)
Cody, Boxer, Ryu, and especially Fei Long are a little lower than I'd expect, while Guile and Blanka are surprisingly up there IMHO. Granted, it looks like 10 of the Guile points are from Dieminion.
edit: though do note that there are a lot of team tournaments represented so some characters could be riding on coattails.
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On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote: keep in mind the best fighting games are the imbalanced ones. balance does not make a good game. just look at mvc3. game is a hot mess of shit
i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin
To be fair, MvC3 is relatively balanced in terms of how many characters are viable in the game, much moreso than in MvC2. Wesker, Taskmaster, Ammy, Tron, Akuma, Wolvie, Phoenix, Sentinel, Magneto, Dante, Dormammu, She Hulk.
On June 28 2011 01:07 Dizmaul wrote: Anyone watch Poongko at Shadowloo?? I love watching that level of skill it makes me think, "Wow seth is so awesome" or "Cant be that hard". Then reality hits when you try hah.
Well, Poongko is a Seth specialist, and by far the best in the world, second is like Online Tony and thats about it, nobody really plays Seth.
On June 28 2011 01:32 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 01:02 sung_moon wrote: i just find it funny how back then when vanilla came out, there was like only 1 or 2 occasions of somebody here crying/complaining so fervently about vanilla sagat, but now its like once in every 3 posts towards yun. just sayin that's probably because when vanilla came out no one was an expert now everyone's an expert because they watch streams and don't go to tournaments
Rofl, I love this post.
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As a total fighting game noob this thread has provided me with some useful insight. So thank you folks I guess. I have already pre-purchased AE and cannot wait til it comes out.
I thought I would play Guile, because I quite like remy in ssf3:3s (only started playing it recently against cpu) and I read he is quite similar to Guile. But today I have seen a Guile mirror video. I'm forever scarred.
PS: Is there some site listing good VoDs?
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I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.
But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?
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On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote: I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.
But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's?
Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him.
I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting
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On June 28 2011 04:15 Trumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote: I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.
But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's? Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him. I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting Poongko's 75 hit akuma combo never fails to amuse me (though it's not practical at all)
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It's pretty hard to compare Tony to Japanese players, I think Kindevu is actually the highest BP rated Seth in Japan since he just plays a lot of characters, but I'd just put them all one tier behind Poongko lol, they're all solid though.
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On June 28 2011 05:16 Playguuu wrote: Super Samus?
Yea she's gonna be DLC. It'll be interesting to see how she stacks up against Sagat in the keepaway game.
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On June 28 2011 05:20 Trumpet wrote:Yea she's gonna be DLC. It'll be interesting to see how she stacks up against Sagat in the keepaway game. Too bad she's gonna be super squishy, just like every other female in the game
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If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy.
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On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote: If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy. Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game.
What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package
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His package in the tanden engine
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On June 28 2011 04:15 Trumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 03:52 myrmidon2537 wrote: I ask this purely out of curiosity since I don't watch too many Japanese matches and have seen only some (albeit had fun with) online tony's matches.
But is Tony's seth > Hiropon's? Hiropon is amazing, but I don't know that I've seen actual tournament footage of him. I'm actually amazed poongko did so well. He always seemed like a guy that could get tons of style points but would never succeed in a tournament setting
Same, I was surprised he made top 8, much less win the whole thing.
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On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote: If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy. Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game. What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package
The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp.
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On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote: If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy. Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game. What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp. Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so
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On June 28 2011 10:29 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote: If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy. Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game. What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp. Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so
Yes, he's the exception not the rule.
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On June 28 2011 10:29 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 10:23 Demoninja wrote:On June 28 2011 07:34 101toss wrote:On June 28 2011 05:47 Demoninja wrote: If they have her in armor she won't be squishy cause she doesn't look like a girl anymore. I mean just look at Makoto, I think she's the only girl with normal health and she's a tomboy. Seth looks like a man, but she has the least health in the game. What? Think she is a man? Well then, tell me if you can find "his" package The thing is Seth isn't a human is he? If you're a girl, a pretty boy, a kid, non human, or french you have bad hp. Blanka has bad hp? Didn't think so
He does have bad HP but it's offset by the superior Brazilian blood that runs through his veins.
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I thought Chun had pretty solid life, but thats because her thighs are GDLK
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