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YulyaVolkova
United Kingdom95 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12244 Posts
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Censor
United States122 Posts
Jwong should play his Adon, and I'm pretty sure Ricky was talking about picking up Yun and dropping Rufus. I have no idea what Dieminion should do, because he's so good with him but guile is an ass character. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
I will say though that I don't think it's an issue of Rufus being a bad character so much as the fact that Justin and Ricky haven't really done anything new with the character in 2 years, while every other character has developed tons of new tech in that time frame, and they had 14 people practicing the matchup like crazy to beat them in the SF25 tournament. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Censor
United States122 Posts
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MstrSplntr
Canada43 Posts
I'm not good at this game, n while trying to practice Cammy's bnb combos, mainly the cr.lk, cr.lp., cr.lk into hk spiral arrow, the spiral arrow never comes out into the combo, it will at best only come out after, making it still blockable. However, if I only practice lets say cr.lp or cr.lk into hk.spiral arrow, then it always come out. Help? It is like a one-frame link or am I just not getting it? Thx! | ||
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Censor
United States122 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + go to 4:36 to skip all the stuff thats not about combos. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On December 12 2012 00:17 Cel.erity wrote: Well, Justin is gearing up for a character switch, he alluded to it on Twitter. I don't know exactly who he's planning to switch to, but I'm excited to find out. I will say though that I don't think it's an issue of Rufus being a bad character so much as the fact that Justin and Ricky haven't really done anything new with the character in 2 years, while every other character has developed tons of new tech in that time frame, and they had 14 people practicing the matchup like crazy to beat them in the SF25 tournament. He said he was finding Bison really fun to play. That would make me a very sad panda. I'd rather see him play literally any other character. | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 12 2012 00:05 Censor wrote: Ive come to a conclusion recently. The only reason Justin Wong and Ricky Ortiz can win so consistently with Rufus, who honestly isn't that good, is because not too many people play the top tier characters in the US. Rufus, and ricky and justin by default, have hit a ceiling. Either character limits or lack of being pushed by US community, I'll put my money on character limits though. Think about it. In the US we have no real Akumas, one real Cammy, no real Fei, no real Adon, one Seth, no real Yuns, and three or so real Vipers. Jwong should play his Adon, and I'm pretty sure Ricky was talking about picking up Yun and dropping Rufus. I have no idea what Dieminion should do, because he's so good with him but guile is an ass character. From what I've seen, I'd put my money on the lack of dedication in the US community. The players are deluding themselves into thinking they lost because of their characters; in reality, the overall foreign play at the SF25th anniversary was very poor with a few exceptions. The lack of Akuma, Cammy, Fei, Adon, etc. representation only contributed to the extent that they were very unfamiliar with the matchups and the lack of knowledge resulted in game-ending mistakes. It doesn't help that almost all the top representation in terms of characters is carried out by character specialists, not players who switched merely to take advantage. The days of AE Yun are finished; you can't just pick up a top character and expect it to compensate for bad fundamentals. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On December 12 2012 04:43 LuckoftheIrish wrote: The US is also a lot bigger than Japan. A quarter of the population of Japan lives in the Greater Tokyo Area, and you can get everywhere by train within Tokyo in a couple hours maximum. In the US, the community is split between the east coast and the west coast, with some folks scattered around in between. It's tough to have the hardcore arcade training culture when your best competition is a five hour trip by plane away. It seems like American players don't consider that a major factor. There are no cries that they need to organize and research, but a lot of bitching that they lost because their characters were low-tier. :/ Besides the FGTV house, there really isn't a concentrated group of talent that can regularly practice. US players need to find a way to compensate for that. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
I'm so rusted that its not even funny. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12244 Posts
On December 12 2012 03:24 MstrSplntr wrote: I have a question for TL's residents using Cammy. I'm not good at this game, n while trying to practice Cammy's bnb combos, mainly the cr.lk, cr.lp., cr.lk into hk spiral arrow, the spiral arrow never comes out into the combo, it will at best only come out after, making it still blockable. However, if I only practice lets say cr.lp or cr.lk into hk.spiral arrow, then it always come out. Help? It is like a one-frame link or am I just not getting it? Thx! You'll probably find a combo easier when you're not using chainables into specials. Try c.lk c.lp c.mp xx HK spiral arrow instead. It's more damage, you get a better idea of where your combo is falling apart, and it's an easier plink (if you're using plinking). | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On December 12 2012 00:05 Censor wrote: Ive come to a conclusion recently. The only reason Justin Wong and Ricky Ortiz can win so consistently with Rufus, who honestly isn't that good, is because not too many people play the top tier characters in the US. Rufus, and ricky and justin by default, have hit a ceiling. Either character limits or lack of being pushed by US community, I'll put my money on character limits though. Think about it. In the US we have no real Akumas, one real Cammy, no real Fei, no real Adon, one Seth, no real Yuns, and three or so real Vipers. Jwong should play his Adon, and I'm pretty sure Ricky was talking about picking up Yun and dropping Rufus. I have no idea what Dieminion should do, because he's so good with him but guile is an ass character. why do you sound exactly like James Chen? this is pretty much exactly what he said on stream and twitter. | ||
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
On December 12 2012 17:01 broz0rs wrote: why do you sound exactly like James Chen? this is pretty much exactly what he said on stream and twitter. Put an h in his name. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
The US definitely has a real Akuma though, he just doesn't travel  | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
Oh god, it's true! Every one of his posts mentions Cammy in some way! | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On December 12 2012 17:49 Trumpet wrote: Assuming there's no v.2013 in the works, it's about time people stopped being character loyalists and started using the top tier. The only reason it's taken so long is that there's always been a new version with a rebalance on the horizon. I don't think the top tier in this game is even that dominant, but as koogy says, "Life is too short for bad matchups." The US definitely has a real Akuma though, he just doesn't travel If capcom openly talks about the possibility of a patch that usually means there will be a patch. Despite that I don't agree with what you said. Half the game is figuring out new ways to beat other characters. If you can't do it blame yourself, not your character. | ||
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