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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 25 2011 21:21 GMT
#3621
Nah, I should of clarified just how nub I am. I come from the depths of shitty fighting games and my last Street Fighter was the arcades & Street Fighter II (go Honda!).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
December 25 2011 21:46 GMT
#3622
On December 26 2011 03:41 o3.power91 wrote:
Just to copy the stuff from the PM I sent you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just to clarify, there are 4 versions of Street Fighter 4. In order, they are:
-Street Fighter 4 (aka "vanilla SF4")
-Super Street Fighter 4 (aka "Super")
-Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition (aka "AE")
-Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition v2012 (aka "AE 2012" or "v2012")

AE 2012 is purely a free DLC add on to AE only and is not yet out on PC. Consoles have retail copies of the first 3 on the list. PC only has Vanilla SF4 and AE. Super was skipped entirely on PC.

If you got Vanilla SF4 on PC by accident, you won't be able to upgrade to Super, AE, or AE 2012 at all unfortunately.


It gets extremely confusing for newcomers thanks to the way Capcom keeps naming the iterations of their games. You could check the cover's side for the full title of the copy you got, or if you don't mind, you could post a picture of the box art. That would help us confirm which iteration you got for sure (unless of course your retailer messes around with game covers lol).



Minor correction, AE2012 is coming to PC, it's just arriving "later" ( date unannounced ). ( free dlc to AE opbviously ).

www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 22:02:36
December 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#3623
Torte, here's a glossary of Street Fighter terms/notation. It's fairly comprehensive, so I would just use it as a reference until you become more familiar with the game. glhf!
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 22:43:16
December 25 2011 22:41 GMT
#3624
On December 26 2011 04:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
I wish there was an abridged dictionary for all the terms~


Here is one.

Also as mentioned earlier check out vesperarcades sf4 tutorial video series if you havnt already, they are really good and its a lot easier to learn when you can actually see it yourself.

edit: olol im so slow with the links today :<.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 26 2011 01:20 GMT
#3625
Thanks guys! I'll start with hte youtube video tutorials and work from there! Unfortunately, I'm playing on a keyboard so things aren't in line with their suggestions ):
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Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 01:31:10
December 26 2011 01:30 GMT
#3626
On December 26 2011 10:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Thanks guys! I'll start with hte youtube video tutorials and work from there! Unfortunately, I'm playing on a keyboard so things aren't in line with their suggestions ):


ugh, cant even imagine what its like to play on a keyboard :<, if you foresee yourself spending a decent amount of time with the game i would strongly suggest a decent pad or a stick, makes it so much more enjoyable.

On a side note i tried street fighter 4 for 3ds today, the controls are actually not as bad as i expected, its a pretty legit version.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 26 2011 01:32 GMT
#3627
I'm doing WASD for movement and numpad: 456 for punches 123 for kicks. 0 for grab and . for that power move. It's not the best, but to be honest, since I'm at the very bottom: I doubt I'll need to really try a bad pad or something. On the 27th, I'm going to an underground electronic lounge where they have faux-arcade machines set up with proper sticks and such. Guys over there are going to give me a few pointers, so I'll have to look forward to.

:B
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Inahk
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 03:05:16
December 26 2011 03:04 GMT
#3628
On December 26 2011 10:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
0 for grab and . for that power move.


While I believe keyboard is viable, DO NOT get used to using those macros. They are banned in tournaments and don't work on consoles. By most players standards they are seen in a very poor light, almost as bad as using turbo. 3P and 3K aren't so bad, most modern sticks are 8 button now, but the Grab and Focus ones aren't cool.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 26 2011 03:29 GMT
#3629
On December 26 2011 10:20 Torte de Lini wrote:
Thanks guys! I'll start with hte youtube video tutorials and work from there! Unfortunately, I'm playing on a keyboard so things aren't in line with their suggestions ):

If you already have a Xbox or a PS3, you can easily use one of your controllers on the PC. My friends have gotten a PS3 controller to work perfectly on the PC. I believe the xbox controller should work the same.

As I'm sure you'll find out at that underground electronics lounge you're going to, there are plenty of cheap sticks that will work on the PC. Although it is a matter of preference, generally keyboards are the least preferred controller choice.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
December 26 2011 04:06 GMT
#3630
On December 26 2011 03:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +

ibuki is even more executional than makoto, but i guess you have a few more cheap wake-up options. Still i would recommend someone easier to start with unless you want to pull your hair out.


Like who?
Really? She feels so much smoother.


Ryu or Balrog if you wanna learn charge characters. Ryu's execution cap is easy enough (probably the easiest for non-chargers), but he teaches you fundamentals like no one else.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-26 06:38:55
December 26 2011 06:36 GMT
#3631
On December 26 2011 12:04 Inahk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 10:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
0 for grab and . for that power move.


While I believe keyboard is viable, DO NOT get used to using those macros. They are banned in tournaments and don't work on consoles. By most players standards they are seen in a very poor light, almost as bad as using turbo. 3P and 3K aren't so bad, most modern sticks are 8 button now, but the Grab and Focus ones aren't cool.


I've never heard of any tournament banning the use of binds to throw and focus. In fact, Wolfkrone, Inthul, and Vangief all use custom control schemes because they play on pad, and binds to throw and focus are common. The only "macros" that are banned are actual macros: a scripted series of commands executed in order to automate things like combos. Throw and focus are legitimate binds and they're accessible right there from the button config menu... why wouldn't they be allowed?

Also to TDL: I've heard that Q-W-E-Space (as left down right up respectively, A-S-D-Space if you have smaller hands) is preferable to WASD because it makes motions easier since you're not fumbling around moving fingers anywhere. This is the same layout that Hitbox input devices use. It might take a little getting used to at first, but you should adapt quickly and your execution should become more consistent.

For the record I don't believe binds to throw and focus are required at all since it's easy enough to hit 1+4 and 2+5 just as you would on a stick, and additionally that gets you out of the habit of keeping your fingers on the same set of keys since you have to travel relatively far to hit 0 and . (an extra row). Try going without.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 26 2011 08:31 GMT
#3632
I chose WASD as my scheme to replicate a pad, I dont want to grow accustomed to the keyboard, but just as a medium until I can go back to the electronic lounge.

At the arcade, there are no macros beyond the three buttons, so I guess I shouldn't get used to it :x
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Inahk
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom3 Posts
December 26 2011 13:19 GMT
#3633
I was wrong about those not being available on consoles, I just double checked, but they are certainly not available on arcades, where most of the FGC's rules come from. I've seen a lot of button checks before matches, and I have never once seen anyone use Throw/Focus/Taunt binds, including those prominent pad players. Even on a default 360 or PS3 pad, hitting lp+lk or mp+mk isn't very hard assuming you have heavy attacks bound to the shoulder buttons. From oldschool arcade 6 button purists, anything beyond that is not looked upon favorably, and you will have problems if you ever want to play at an arcade.

Speaking of which, if you get a pad, I recommend something with a 6 face button layout, though there are strong players that manage with regular pads.
Fiercegore
Profile Joined July 2010
United States294 Posts
December 27 2011 09:34 GMT
#3634
On December 26 2011 22:19 Inahk wrote:
I was wrong about those not being available on consoles, I just double checked, but they are certainly not available on arcades, where most of the FGC's rules come from. I've seen a lot of button checks before matches, and I have never once seen anyone use Throw/Focus/Taunt binds, including those prominent pad players. Even on a default 360 or PS3 pad, hitting lp+lk or mp+mk isn't very hard assuming you have heavy attacks bound to the shoulder buttons. From oldschool arcade 6 button purists, anything beyond that is not looked upon favorably, and you will have problems if you ever want to play at an arcade.

Speaking of which, if you get a pad, I recommend something with a 6 face button layout, though there are strong players that manage with regular pads.


Isn't it a running gag that Fanatiq actually unkeybound Assist 2 in Marvel vs Capcom 2 so he could keybind grab or a 1 button dash due to the fact that he is a pad player? I'm not sure if it was grab but I know something like that was true, also most players will still keybind the 7th and 8th buttons to lk+mk+hk and lp+mp+hp. So if they allow that I'm sure they wouldn't mind key binding focus attacks or grabs, it's just that nobody does it.
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/506893/1/Fiercegore/
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
December 27 2011 09:50 GMT
#3635
Just wondering if someone could tell me how SF is doing on PC. As in how easy it is to find games and how many people play. I was going to buy it when it came out but was afraid no one would be on to play all the time. I was really into SF3rd strike and then SF4 for a while. Would love to get into it again for when I feel like relaxing instead of playing BW
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
December 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#3636
On December 27 2011 18:34 Fiercegore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2011 22:19 Inahk wrote:
I was wrong about those not being available on consoles, I just double checked, but they are certainly not available on arcades, where most of the FGC's rules come from. I've seen a lot of button checks before matches, and I have never once seen anyone use Throw/Focus/Taunt binds, including those prominent pad players. Even on a default 360 or PS3 pad, hitting lp+lk or mp+mk isn't very hard assuming you have heavy attacks bound to the shoulder buttons. From oldschool arcade 6 button purists, anything beyond that is not looked upon favorably, and you will have problems if you ever want to play at an arcade.

Speaking of which, if you get a pad, I recommend something with a 6 face button layout, though there are strong players that manage with regular pads.


Isn't it a running gag that Fanatiq actually unkeybound Assist 2 in Marvel vs Capcom 2 so he could keybind grab or a 1 button dash due to the fact that he is a pad player? I'm not sure if it was grab but I know something like that was true, also most players will still keybind the 7th and 8th buttons to lk+mk+hk and lp+mp+hp. So if they allow that I'm sure they wouldn't mind key binding focus attacks or grabs, it's just that nobody does it.


It's not a running gag, Fanatiq did use 1 button dash in exchange for losing an assist.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 27 2011 13:22 GMT
#3637
Any good heroes for noobs :D? I can't be bothered to wait till the end of steam sales I want it now...
Also Xbox 360 controller > Keyboard?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
December 27 2011 16:02 GMT
#3638
I just hit Dee Jay's EX Machine Gun Upper -> Dash -> Ultra 2 for the first time in training mode in weeks of practice. I'm motivated to hammer the hell out of practicing it now that I know it's actually within my capability. So excited to land that in a game someday, it's so cool.

@Benjef: Ryu and Balrog are most often the ones people suggest for noobs. I agree, though Guile and T Hawk are also options.
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 16:38:16
December 27 2011 16:37 GMT
#3639
Thinking of switching to ibuki for 2012, sakura is good and all but it just dosnt feel worth bothering with her anymore, several good sakura players have already switched/are about to switch so not much inspiration left.
Vortex characters seem to be the shit in ae2012.
Team NSHoseo <3
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
December 27 2011 17:53 GMT
#3640
So I've never really played a fighting game before (other than SSB/SF2 TURBO as a kid, iirc... and that nutty Ninja Turtles fighting game) but I've wanted to try one for a while to see if they're something I'd be interested in, and since I'll be getting MvC 3 soon and SF4 is 1/2 off on steam I thought it'd be a good time to give it a try, but can I just get some clarification: is
SF4 a waste compared to SF4:AE? What are the real differences between the 2? Once I get the basics down where should I go to learn more about the game?

Thank in advanced~
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
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