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TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
December 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#3601
Champ streaming some AE2012 with Sim and Seth

http://www.twitch.tv/col_cc_fchamp

Getting a lot of views for once, thanks to it being on Twitch homepage

Good games so far and funny commentary
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 01:54:09
December 25 2011 01:29 GMT
#3602
Holy shit, Champ doesn't know shit about Makoto lol. Didn't even know how to punish whiff ultra 2 till Strider told him how to.

"In Super Abel and Cammy was my hardest match, in AE it becomes the whole cast" LOL
Fan of the Jangbanger
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 25 2011 06:50 GMT
#3603
Okay, I quit Makoto because she is difficult to connect (at least for me). I switched to Ibuki who is so good! She is so smooth in her moves and does decent damage ;D!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
December 25 2011 13:41 GMT
#3604
Allright,so I'm new to the SSF4 series, (so new that I have yet to open the game.) Now for Christmas I got the Super Street Fighter 4 regular eddition. My question is, is the arcade version a standalone version or does it work like an expansion pack? So basically can I buy the arcade addition alone or do I have to have the first addition for it to work? Thanks for the help.
Diamond Protoss ~
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
December 25 2011 13:46 GMT
#3605
On December 25 2011 22:41 JMC4 wrote:
Allright,so I'm new to the SSF4 series, (so new that I have yet to open the game.) Now for Christmas I got the Super Street Fighter 4 regular eddition. My question is, is the arcade version a standalone version or does it work like an expansion pack? So basically can I buy the arcade addition alone or do I have to have the first addition for it to work? Thanks for the help.


Arcade edition is somewhat similar to an expansion pack, it's paid DLC on consoles. and pc there was no super, only arcade.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#3606
On December 25 2011 22:41 JMC4 wrote:
Allright,so I'm new to the SSF4 series, (so new that I have yet to open the game.) Now for Christmas I got the Super Street Fighter 4 regular eddition. My question is, is the arcade version a standalone version or does it work like an expansion pack? So basically can I buy the arcade addition alone or do I have to have the first addition for it to work? Thanks for the help.

If you got the console version of SSF4, you could buy the expansion for AE on PSN/XBL for $15 I believe. However, I believe SSF4 AE (full game plus the expansion) is being sold at retail stores for $40, so if you got that one, you don't have to worry. The AE DLC is only applicable if you got SSF4 alone.

PC is different story. There is no regular SSF4 for PC, so if you got it for the PC, chances are it's already the Arcade Edition.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 15:15:04
December 25 2011 15:06 GMT
#3607
On December 25 2011 15:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Okay, I quit Makoto because she is difficult to connect (at least for me). I switched to Ibuki who is so good! She is so smooth in her moves and does decent damage ;D!


ibuki is even more executional than makoto, but i guess you have a few more cheap wake-up options. Still i would recommend someone easier to start with unless you want to pull your hair out.



On December 25 2011 22:41 JMC4 wrote:
Allright,so I'm new to the SSF4 series, (so new that I have yet to open the game.) Now for Christmas I got the Super Street Fighter 4 regular eddition. My question is, is the arcade version a standalone version or does it work like an expansion pack? So basically can I buy the arcade addition alone or do I have to have the first addition for it to work? Thanks for the help.


assuming its for console as super wasnt on pc, if its the normal version and not arcade you can upgrade it through dlc, if its vanilla (just street fighter 4, not super) you cant upgrade(correct me if im wrong). i think that AE for pc is on sale at steam currently though so shouldnt be too expensive.
Team NSHoseo <3
JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
December 25 2011 15:08 GMT
#3608
On December 25 2011 23:09 o3.power91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 22:41 JMC4 wrote:
Allright,so I'm new to the SSF4 series, (so new that I have yet to open the game.) Now for Christmas I got the Super Street Fighter 4 regular eddition. My question is, is the arcade version a standalone version or does it work like an expansion pack? So basically can I buy the arcade addition alone or do I have to have the first addition for it to work? Thanks for the help.

If you got the console version of SSF4, you could buy the expansion for AE on PSN/XBL for $15 I believe. However, I believe SSF4 AE (full game plus the expansion) is being sold at retail stores for $40, so if you got that one, you don't have to worry. The AE DLC is only applicable if you got SSF4 alone.

PC is different story. There is no regular SSF4 for PC, so if you got it for the PC, chances are it's already the Arcade Edition.


Yeah I'm talking about the PC version sorry should've specified. You sure that there is no regular edition because it doesn't specify arcade edition on it or anything special. It says limited edition on it but that's it.
Diamond Protoss ~
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 15:47:54
December 25 2011 15:36 GMT
#3609
On December 26 2011 00:08 JMC4 wrote:
Yeah I'm talking about the PC version sorry should've specified. You sure that there is no regular edition because it doesn't specify arcade edition on it or anything special. It says limited edition on it but that's it.


Are you sure it's not just regular Streetfighter 4? There is no super only version for PC, only vanilla and arcade. you can't upgrade from vanilla to arcade.


Easiest way to check - install it and on the splash screen it says super ssf4 arcade edition :p
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
December 25 2011 16:20 GMT
#3610
well I'd like to return it if it isnt' the AE edition because I want to play online.
Diamond Protoss ~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 25 2011 18:40 GMT
#3611

ibuki is even more executional than makoto, but i guess you have a few more cheap wake-up options. Still i would recommend someone easier to start with unless you want to pull your hair out.


Like who?
Really? She feels so much smoother.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 18:48:58
December 25 2011 18:41 GMT
#3612
Just to copy the stuff from the PM I sent you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just to clarify, there are 4 versions of Street Fighter 4. In order, they are:
-Street Fighter 4 (aka "vanilla SF4")
-Super Street Fighter 4 (aka "Super")
-Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition (aka "AE")
-Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition v2012 (aka "AE 2012" or "v2012")

AE 2012 is purely a free DLC add on to AE only and is not yet out on PC. Consoles have retail copies of the first 3 on the list. PC only has Vanilla SF4 and AE. Super was skipped entirely on PC.

If you got Vanilla SF4 on PC by accident, you won't be able to upgrade to Super, AE, or AE 2012 at all unfortunately.


It gets extremely confusing for newcomers thanks to the way Capcom keeps naming the iterations of their games. You could check the cover's side for the full title of the copy you got, or if you don't mind, you could post a picture of the box art. That would help us confirm which iteration you got for sure (unless of course your retailer messes around with game covers lol).
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#3613
On December 26 2011 03:40 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +

ibuki is even more executional than makoto, but i guess you have a few more cheap wake-up options. Still i would recommend someone easier to start with unless you want to pull your hair out.


Like who?
Really? She feels so much smoother.

Ibuki is more execution heavy than Makoto as he said. You get to feel it more in her more advanced combos and super jump cancels into U2. Also, I also agree that Ibuki isn't one of the best choices for starters, but if you're set on playing her over any other character, then don't feel obligated to switch
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 25 2011 18:50 GMT
#3614
Like
Who?

I don't even know who is easier, so...
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12244 Posts
December 25 2011 19:16 GMT
#3615
hahaha TDL switched from Makoto to..... Ibuki and is surprised she's more execution heavy? Fully expecting a Viper switch next. This list is gonna be based on emphasis on positioning and fundamentals first, followed by execution requirements (as in if you can't get your combos down you're at a significant disadvantage).

Good newbie characters: Boxer, Guile, Sagat, Ryu.
Experienced beginners: Honda, Ken, Blanka, Gouken, Zangief, Dan, Hawk, Dhalsim, Dee Jay.
Intermediate: Juri, Cody, Chun, Cammy, Yun, Yang, E.Ryu, Oni, Bison, Rose, Rufus.
Advanced: Dudley, Abel, Hakan, Seth, Sakura, Guy, Akuma, Fei, Vega, Adon.
Extreme execution: Viper, Fuerte, Ibuki, Makoto,
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Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#3616
I would recommend starting off with Balrog, he's got great normal attacks and anti airs which are essential for new comers and he also as plenty of ultra setups, along with easy / effective pressure with turn punch and footsies.
Living the liefe
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#3617
On December 26 2011 03:50 Torte de Lini wrote:
Like
Who?

I don't even know who is easier, so...

lol my bad. The list of good starting characters is subjective, but I'll give my opinion

If you don't mind charge inputs, then Guile, Bison, Balrog, Chun-li, and Honda are excellent beginner characters.
If you prefer motion inputs, you can try Ryu, Ken, Sagat, Cammy, Fei Long, and maybe even Rose.

These aren't necessarily the easiest characters in the game, but they are great for building fundamentals.

If you just want the pure easiest in the game, once again that's subjective, I believe the 3 easiest characters are Balrog, Guile, and Bison.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
December 25 2011 19:30 GMT
#3618
Execution-wise Abel isn't really that advanced. His BnB used to have a 1-frame link, but afaik now there's an easier way to combo into the c.HP launcher. Besides that he's pretty straightforward, majority of the damage comes from simple roll mixups. The biggest obstacle playing Abel is overcoming unfavorable matchups, and there's quite a few of them.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 19:45:34
December 25 2011 19:34 GMT
#3619
I haven't even learned the combos or footsies or anything. I just started with how to block, performing hadoukens and special moves like that. So most of what you guys went over my head ): I wish there was an abridged dictionary for all the terms~

(P.S I'm taking notes of various tutorial videos).
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 21:16:24
December 25 2011 21:15 GMT
#3620
On December 26 2011 04:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
I haven't even learned the combos or footsies or anything. I just started with how to block, performing hadoukens and special moves like that. So most of what you guys went over my head ): I wish there was an abridged dictionary for all the terms~

(P.S I'm taking notes of various tutorial videos).

lol sorry if we confused you. If you've been looking at various tutorial videos, you've probably stumbled upon VesperArcade's video tutorials:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade#g/c/744144A71C67D816

This is probably the best and most thorough video starting tutorial series out there. It'll pretty much tell you what a beginner (or any player really) needs to know for street fighter.

Also, you can check the newbie saikyo dojo at shoryuken.com:
http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/newbie-saikyo-dojo.52/

Lots of the stickied threads' info is old but still applicable so check that out. You can check shoryuken.com's individual character forums for more in depth character stuff. Their wiki is only useful for frame data though so I wouldn't suggest looking through there until you have an idea of how frame data works.
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