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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
December 22 2011 19:49 GMT
#3581
You don't need to go out and get a super expensive stick at first. Imagine if someone was playing Starcraft on a trackpad and you told them to switch to a mouse. Would they need to buy some high end gamer mouse right off the bat? I got my HoriVX barely used off craigslist for $30. It is fine, even if I had paid the full msrp $70 I'd be happy with it. It has shown me the fun and benefit of using a stick, despite the frustration of learning how to use it. (I was playing on a keyboard using the numberpad for direction, so I'm not just switching devices I'm switching hands.) I still have a long way to improve until the quality of my stick is what is limiting my play, when I reach that point I'll get something full of sanwa parts.
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 23:58:54
December 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#3582
I personally got a stick just a few weeks after i started playing, mostly out of frustration from trying to play with pad, switching to stick dosnt make you a good player nor does it really make you able to do harder combos right off the bat. It takes quite a while just to get used to it unless you've played a lot at the arcade. I've found that its a lot more fun to play with stick and it motivates me to practice more, which leads to better results.
In the end its just about personal preference, but if you do pick up a stick it will still require you to practice a ton to be able to do some of the harder combos.


As for what stick to get it just depends what you're willing to pay for, bear in mind that as with anything you get what you pay for. i found it not to be worth bothering with a cheap stick and went straight for a hori vx sa, which is pretty much the same as a madcatz te in a different case.

Good sticks are pretty much any that has sanwa or semitsu parts, madcatz TE, hori vx sa/VLX , qanba, eightarc also razer is currently developing an arcade stick with sanwa parts but its still in testing phase so probably wont be out untill later next year.
Team NSHoseo <3
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 22 2011 23:38 GMT
#3583
On December 22 2011 15:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, I'm not sure where else to ask, but does anyone know where I can read about/research arcade sticks, or where you can buy them online? (I've only really found one website) I'm looking to get one, but I want to make an informed decision. I found a thread on SRK, but it doesn't seem like it has much information regarding the differences between different types of sticks and parts.

This seems like the best place on TL to ask about this, so here I am. :p

If anyone can help, I'll be grateful.

Thanks!

Personally i would go with the Hori RAP VX-SA (xbox version) over the Madkatz TE any day. The Hori stick has all Sanwa parts which is the high standard, and it is 30 dollars cheaper. I own both a TE and the RAP and I strongly prefer the RAP.

Here it is on amazon, where its the cheapest. Prices do change frequently though, the most expensive it will be is 140 and the cheapest ive seen it is 120. Good luck!
Xbox + Show Spoiler +
http://www.amazon.com/Real-Arcade-Pro-VX-Xbox-360/dp/B0041S9U8A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324597018&sr=8-1

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http://www.amazon.com/Real-Arcade-Pro-V3-Playstation-3/dp/B0041SGD44/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1324597018&sr=8-2
Living the liefe
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
December 22 2011 23:40 GMT
#3584
Do you know if Hori XBOX sticks are compatible with PC? I looked at some, but don't remember it saying. You say you have one though, so I'm hoping you know, haha. :p
you gotta dance
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 22 2011 23:53 GMT
#3585
On December 23 2011 08:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Do you know if Hori XBOX sticks are compatible with PC? I looked at some, but don't remember it saying. You say you have one though, so I'm hoping you know, haha. :p

Yes it does, im fairly confident all sticks for the xbox, and ps3 work on the pc unless for some reason its wireless.
Living the liefe
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
December 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#3586
On December 23 2011 08:53 Soulstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Do you know if Hori XBOX sticks are compatible with PC? I looked at some, but don't remember it saying. You say you have one though, so I'm hoping you know, haha. :p

Yes it does, im fairly confident all sticks for the xbox, and ps3 work on the pc unless for some reason its wireless.


afaik the ps3 stick arnt fully supported for pc, it only works with certain chipsets. The xbox ones work like a charm on pc though!
Team NSHoseo <3
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
December 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#3587
On sale on Steam atm! Always wanted to give it a go, any advice to a new player? I got an xbox controller, shall I use that or mouse and keyboard and many people still play it online?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
aphorism
Profile Joined February 2011
United States226 Posts
December 23 2011 00:07 GMT
#3588
It is on sale on Steam, but wait until the last day of the sale to buy it, because it might go for even cheaper as a daily deal sometime in between.
Gyabo
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States329 Posts
December 23 2011 09:04 GMT
#3589
So I played in my first money tournament today. Had lots of fun despite my poor performance. Got matched up first round against the guy who was favored to win the whole thing. I only won 1 match in the losers bracket before losing to the guy who eventually placed 3rd. Maybe I've been playing too much Marvel because I was dropping 2 and 3 frame links left and right. ><

I also realized I have no idea how to play the Cammy vs Guile matchup. I mostly just tried to stand outside of backfist range while working him into the corner. Divekick pressure seems so hard to do because flashkick blows up any non crossup air attacks, and it doesn't seem like Guile has to do much other than hold downback and react to me. Also, I can't ex arrow or ultra through booms cuz those booms recover so fast (I know it's possible but I don't have the reactions). Anybody have any advice on this matchup?
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 09:12:27
December 23 2011 09:10 GMT
#3590
On December 23 2011 09:00 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 08:53 Soulstice wrote:
On December 23 2011 08:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Do you know if Hori XBOX sticks are compatible with PC? I looked at some, but don't remember it saying. You say you have one though, so I'm hoping you know, haha. :p

Yes it does, im fairly confident all sticks for the xbox, and ps3 work on the pc unless for some reason its wireless.


afaik the ps3 stick arnt fully supported for pc, it only works with certain chipsets. The xbox ones work like a charm on pc though!


I did hear something like this but my HRAP3 works perfectly fine.

bought it during sale, I think some stuff are kinda...bugged. Akuma's j.mk kept missing (training mode, kept doing it and kept missing. I have the game for console and it never misses). I didn't find that many good connection bars as I did previously on SF4 vanilla but maybe its just me being canadian.

Waiting til christmas passes so my cousin can get me a Qanba Q4 with standard shipping and not express.
Aiyeeeee
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 23 2011 09:19 GMT
#3591
How the hell do you beat Juri with Makoto? I'm playing against AI and she has such zoning or something. It's impossible to get near her at all D:
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JMC4
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States261 Posts
December 23 2011 22:32 GMT
#3592
So you don't need a joystick in order to play this? You can play it with a keyboard and mouse just the same as you would a joystick? The joystick is just better from what I have read.
Diamond Protoss ~
~_~
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
December 23 2011 22:35 GMT
#3593
On December 24 2011 07:32 JMC4 wrote:
So you don't need a joystick in order to play this? You can play it with a keyboard and mouse just the same as you would a joystick? The joystick is just better from what I have read.


some people use "hitboxes" which are essentially keyboards. some people even whine about how they are unfair.

just try out what you like and then use it
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
December 23 2011 22:57 GMT
#3594
On December 23 2011 18:19 Torte de Lini wrote:
How the hell do you beat Juri with Makoto? I'm playing against AI and she has such zoning or something. It's impossible to get near her at all D:


Don't spend too much time playing the AI... like starcraft the AI is silly and will get you in bad habits, even on hardest.

Makoto is all about patience, pressure and capitalizing when you get a chance. Just slowly walk forward, block a lot and when you get your chance jump or dash in and start destroying.


It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 23 2011 23:05 GMT
#3595
On December 24 2011 07:35 ~_~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 07:32 JMC4 wrote:
So you don't need a joystick in order to play this? You can play it with a keyboard and mouse just the same as you would a joystick? The joystick is just better from what I have read.


some people use "hitboxes" which are essentially keyboards. some people even whine about how they are unfair.

just try out what you like and then use it


They are unfair, blocking while throwing sonic booms is fair right? I mean I hope they improve some of those quirks so it's not "unfair". There's a lot of weird things that are incredibly advantageous that you can only do with the hitbox.
Get it by your hands...
Soulstice
Profile Joined December 2011
United States288 Posts
December 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#3596
On December 24 2011 08:05 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 07:35 ~_~ wrote:
On December 24 2011 07:32 JMC4 wrote:
So you don't need a joystick in order to play this? You can play it with a keyboard and mouse just the same as you would a joystick? The joystick is just better from what I have read.


some people use "hitboxes" which are essentially keyboards. some people even whine about how they are unfair.

just try out what you like and then use it


They are unfair, blocking while throwing sonic booms is fair right? I mean I hope they improve some of those quirks so it's not "unfair". There's a lot of weird things that are incredibly advantageous that you can only do with the hitbox.


Such as being able to block 2 directions at once. Also, the lay out is kind of like a keyboard, but its a completely different feel.
Living the liefe
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
December 23 2011 23:29 GMT
#3597
On December 23 2011 09:07 aphorism wrote:
It is on sale on Steam, but wait until the last day of the sale to buy it, because it might go for even cheaper as a daily deal sometime in between.


Is the game worth playing with the keyboard? I'm asking because I have a PS3 as well and might buy the PS3 version instead of PC
vindKtiv
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States215 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 23:56:00
December 23 2011 23:55 GMT
#3598
On December 24 2011 08:29 MetalLobster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 09:07 aphorism wrote:
It is on sale on Steam, but wait until the last day of the sale to buy it, because it might go for even cheaper as a daily deal sometime in between.


Is the game worth playing with the keyboard? I'm asking because I have a PS3 as well and might buy the PS3 version instead of PC

I would suggest getting the PS3 version if you want to play seriously. Some reasons:

1.) PC version has not yet been updated with V2012. ETA is Q1 2012 (my guess is late-Feb to March, because if it was coming out in Jan they probably would have said so). Console versions have had v2012 since a week ago while the arcade versions have had them since two weeks ago. If you want to play the latest version with the latest balance, you need to get it on the consoles.
2.) if you want to eventually graduate to tournament play or even local casual play (highly suggested), you will need to get use to using a stick/pad. Unless you want to buy a hitbox (I suggest not), you will want to get use to playing on a stick/pad. You won't look good lugging your keyboard to a local event, but it would probably be funny as hell.
3.) Competition is generally better on the consoles than on PC (generally being very loosely used)
4.) Capcom does not like to support their PC customers
MetalLobster
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada532 Posts
December 24 2011 02:30 GMT
#3599
On December 24 2011 08:55 vindKtiv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 08:29 MetalLobster wrote:
On December 23 2011 09:07 aphorism wrote:
It is on sale on Steam, but wait until the last day of the sale to buy it, because it might go for even cheaper as a daily deal sometime in between.


Is the game worth playing with the keyboard? I'm asking because I have a PS3 as well and might buy the PS3 version instead of PC

I would suggest getting the PS3 version if you want to play seriously. Some reasons:

1.) PC version has not yet been updated with V2012. ETA is Q1 2012 (my guess is late-Feb to March, because if it was coming out in Jan they probably would have said so). Console versions have had v2012 since a week ago while the arcade versions have had them since two weeks ago. If you want to play the latest version with the latest balance, you need to get it on the consoles.
2.) if you want to eventually graduate to tournament play or even local casual play (highly suggested), you will need to get use to using a stick/pad. Unless you want to buy a hitbox (I suggest not), you will want to get use to playing on a stick/pad. You won't look good lugging your keyboard to a local event, but it would probably be funny as hell.
3.) Competition is generally better on the consoles than on PC (generally being very loosely used)
4.) Capcom does not like to support their PC customers


Thanks! I can't believe I forgot that consoles have local casual play >.< I should really set my eyes outside the PC world more often
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 00:33:51
December 24 2011 21:33 GMT
#3600
Btw sf: third strike online edition is 50% off today for xbox 360 for 600 microsoft points, i've been thinking of getting it for a while, guess this seals the fate.


wow, i know makoto aint a beaty in sf4, but she really fucking looks like a dude in third strike.
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