• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:43
CET 17:43
KST 01:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)3Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win2RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket
Tourneys
Discovering the Best Deli and Sandwiches in Santa [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? [BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D) Data analysis on 70 million replays FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2260 users

Ultra Street Fighter IV - Page 178

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 668 Next
Check out the new Street Fighter V Thread
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
December 19 2011 23:48 GMT
#3541
On December 20 2011 07:06 Zlasher wrote:
People only thought Cammy and Honda were bad in AE because Mike and James Chen were loud in front of the microphone about them, but both characters held their own.


I thought Honda was ALWAYS good
Aiyeeeee
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#3542
I love SFIV Vanilla!
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:14:21
December 20 2011 03:13 GMT
#3543
On December 20 2011 07:06 Zlasher wrote:
People only thought Cammy and Honda were bad in AE because Mike and James Chen were loud in front of the microphone about them, but both characters held their own.


Japan had Honda and Sim as 2 of the worst characters in AE. They held their own because the only 3 people that play them happen to be 3 of the best Street Fighters players the U.S has to offer and no one knows how to play the twins or Fei Long in America.

Cammy's the opposite, she's good but nobody good is playing her.
Fan of the Jangbanger
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 21 2011 02:01 GMT
#3544
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
December 21 2011 02:47 GMT
#3545
On December 21 2011 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-


makoto is pretty good, you just have to go absolutely nuts when you play her though, just dash all over the screen and try to bait your opponent into wiffing a move and punish!
Team NSHoseo <3
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 21 2011 02:57 GMT
#3546
On December 21 2011 11:47 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-


makoto is pretty good, you just have to go absolutely nuts when you play her though, just dash all over the screen and try to bait your opponent into wiffing a move and punish!


I just cant figure her moves and all, how to get them to connect and stuff. I like ibuki too, but I dont know her that much.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 21 2011 05:08 GMT
#3547
On December 21 2011 11:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 11:47 Azuroz wrote:
On December 21 2011 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-


makoto is pretty good, you just have to go absolutely nuts when you play her though, just dash all over the screen and try to bait your opponent into wiffing a move and punish!


I just cant figure her moves and all, how to get them to connect and stuff. I like ibuki too, but I dont know her that much.

Makoto's c.hp is almost as good as sakura's, it's your best form of AA as far as I know
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Gyabo
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States329 Posts
December 21 2011 06:45 GMT
#3548
On December 21 2011 14:08 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 11:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
On December 21 2011 11:47 Azuroz wrote:
On December 21 2011 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-


makoto is pretty good, you just have to go absolutely nuts when you play her though, just dash all over the screen and try to bait your opponent into wiffing a move and punish!


I just cant figure her moves and all, how to get them to connect and stuff. I like ibuki too, but I dont know her that much.

Makoto's c.hp is almost as good as sakura's, it's your best form of AA as far as I know

Perhaps you're thinking of a different character? Makoto's c.hp is her sweep.

Her anti airs are pretty space dependent. c.mk if the opponent lands in front of you, c.hk if he's going to land at poke distance in front of you, and jump back hp for crossups. lp fukiage also works if they're on top of your head but it has a long start up so it's difficult to land unless you have fast reactions. Generally I'd say Makoto is pretty tough for a beginner to learn but whatever's most fun is what I recommend.

2012 has been so fun to play. There's so much more character diversity online. I played about 20 matches just now and encountered about 16 different characters. Haven't even run into a twin yet, not that I'd be too worried about that anymore lol.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
December 21 2011 06:51 GMT
#3549
A little off topic but during the shows breaks they always play those videos that has like the best song ever in it, and people say its some remix of a song from contra but I can't find it anywyere... anyone can help?
Jieun <3
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
December 21 2011 06:53 GMT
#3550
HoldatshitPoongko :3
Fan of the Jangbanger
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
December 21 2011 06:57 GMT
#3551
On December 21 2011 15:53 O-ops wrote:
HoldatshitPoongko :3


Rofl, justin wong commentary on ANYTHING is hilarious
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
December 21 2011 07:03 GMT
#3552
On December 20 2011 08:48 MiyaviTeddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 07:06 Zlasher wrote:
People only thought Cammy and Honda were bad in AE because Mike and James Chen were loud in front of the microphone about them, but both characters held their own.


I thought Honda was ALWAYS good


honda IS bad in AE. in japan they laugh about hondas
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 21 2011 08:44 GMT
#3553
Where can I go to get tips on SF IV: AE? Specifically Makoto. Like, I have so much trouble getting down her super and ultras because of that rotate stuff D:

I'm looking for some sort of instructional videos and such :B!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jacobe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
December 21 2011 08:53 GMT
#3554
On December 21 2011 11:57 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 11:47 Azuroz wrote:
On December 21 2011 11:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
Why is this topic so dead? D: I just started learning proper street fighter. I really like Makoto, but I dunno if she's a good pick. She has one move I can't stand and I don't know how to avoid it -__-


makoto is pretty good, you just have to go absolutely nuts when you play her though, just dash all over the screen and try to bait your opponent into wiffing a move and punish!


I just cant figure her moves and all, how to get them to connect and stuff. I like ibuki too, but I dont know her that much.


I lol'd cus Makoto is a dude
It's all south of the border
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 09:01:14
December 21 2011 08:59 GMT
#3555
Pretty sure she's a girl...
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Jacobe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States44 Posts
December 21 2011 09:08 GMT
#3556
On December 21 2011 17:59 Torte de Lini wrote:
Pretty sure she's a girl...


Thanks nvm I looked it up on the wiki
It's all south of the border
Azuroz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1630 Posts
December 21 2011 13:58 GMT
#3557
On December 21 2011 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where can I go to get tips on SF IV: AE? Specifically Makoto. Like, I have so much trouble getting down her super and ultras because of that rotate stuff D:

I'm looking for some sort of instructional videos and such :B!


the best place for advice is the shoryuken character forums. Its pretty much the teamliquid of fighting games.
Team NSHoseo <3
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-21 18:58:28
December 21 2011 18:53 GMT
#3558
On December 21 2011 22:58 Azuroz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where can I go to get tips on SF IV: AE? Specifically Makoto. Like, I have so much trouble getting down her super and ultras because of that rotate stuff D:

I'm looking for some sort of instructional videos and such :B!


the best place for advice is the shoryuken character forums. Its pretty much the teamliquid of fighting games.

Eventhubs is the liquipedia of fighting games (contains frame data and move info)

Though iirc some of the frame data is wrong

Edit: also I might have fucked up about the makoto c.hp, I just remember it's that vertical fist thingy that looks like sakura's c.hp
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 21 2011 19:36 GMT
#3559
On December 22 2011 03:53 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 22:58 Azuroz wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where can I go to get tips on SF IV: AE? Specifically Makoto. Like, I have so much trouble getting down her super and ultras because of that rotate stuff D:

I'm looking for some sort of instructional videos and such :B!


the best place for advice is the shoryuken character forums. Its pretty much the teamliquid of fighting games.

Eventhubs is the liquipedia of fighting games (contains frame data and move info)

Though iirc some of the frame data is wrong

Edit: also I might have fucked up about the makoto c.hp, I just remember it's that vertical fist thingy that looks like sakura's c.hp


Yeah, I hate it. Where she shoves her fist in the air. I keep doing it by mistake and I can't stand it because it leaves me wide open
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
December 21 2011 19:50 GMT
#3560
On December 22 2011 04:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 03:53 101toss wrote:
On December 21 2011 22:58 Azuroz wrote:
On December 21 2011 17:44 Torte de Lini wrote:
Where can I go to get tips on SF IV: AE? Specifically Makoto. Like, I have so much trouble getting down her super and ultras because of that rotate stuff D:

I'm looking for some sort of instructional videos and such :B!


the best place for advice is the shoryuken character forums. Its pretty much the teamliquid of fighting games.

Eventhubs is the liquipedia of fighting games (contains frame data and move info)

Though iirc some of the frame data is wrong

Edit: also I might have fucked up about the makoto c.hp, I just remember it's that vertical fist thingy that looks like sakura's c.hp


Yeah, I hate it. Where she shoves her fist in the air. I keep doing it by mistake and I can't stand it because it leaves me wide open

It's her DP + P move, a decent anti-air because you can juggle off of it.
If you're doing it to often wait a bit longer before you do hayate after moving forward.
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 668 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #232
SteadfastSC363
iHatsuTV 7
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 363
LamboSC2 285
Fuzer 247
ProTech132
BRAT_OK 55
RushiSC 30
MindelVK 24
Livibee 19
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3794
Horang2 2530
Bisu 2463
Flash 1806
Stork 871
Soma 674
Shuttle 625
Mini 599
Light 567
ZerO 325
[ Show more ]
Rush 301
BeSt 298
hero 269
Snow 242
Hyun 99
Backho 81
Soulkey 62
Terrorterran 32
Mind 32
ToSsGirL 31
soO 30
sorry 26
SilentControl 25
scan(afreeca) 20
Rock 17
HiyA 16
Aegong 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Hm[arnc] 10
ivOry 9
NaDa 9
Dota 2
Gorgc5914
singsing2968
qojqva2402
BananaSlamJamma164
capcasts28
League of Legends
rGuardiaN15
Counter-Strike
fl0m12797
zeus2171
Foxcn155
Other Games
B2W.Neo2288
FrodaN1050
Beastyqt679
crisheroes364
RotterdaM204
DeMusliM167
ArmadaUGS108
KnowMe101
XaKoH 85
QueenE59
Trikslyr53
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream149
Other Games
BasetradeTV69
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• poizon28 15
• Reevou 3
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 24
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2230
• TFBlade1094
Other Games
• WagamamaTV235
Upcoming Events
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
7h 17m
The PondCast
17h 17m
Replay Cast
1d 6h
OSC
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.