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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 28 2011 10:01 semantics wrote: A Shoto like ryu or ken, they rely on good fundamentals rather then shenanigans like a cammy would. this is backwards in AE, cammy is a footsie character now. ken has the shenanigans, cheap beggar's vortex stuff like sakura | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On September 28 2011 13:50 youngminii wrote: god damn my hori tori arcade stick's right trigger button isn't working anymore what do i do T_T edit: for xbox (heavy kick button) Buy a button and open it up, ezpz | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On September 28 2011 15:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: this is backwards in AE, cammy is a footsie character now. ken has the shenanigans, cheap beggar's vortex stuff like sakura So which one would you recommend for a beginner to the genre? | ||
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dranko
Sweden378 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:37 Xinder wrote: So which one would you recommend for a beginner to the genre? Ryu is still a really good choice for a beginner. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
I honestly think that playing alot of different characters is better for getting your grasp of fighting games overall though, then eventually settling down on a main is best. Its all about fun in the end. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On September 28 2011 22:56 r_con wrote: For beginning players ryu is a good choice because he pretty simple, and you can just play a good solid game and get wins. I honestly think that playing alot of different characters is better for getting your grasp of fighting games overall though, then eventually settling down on a main is best. Its all about fun in the end. I suppose that's true. Thanks for all your input everyone! Want to get off work now and go home and play! | ||
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dranko
Sweden378 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:04 Xinder wrote: I suppose that's true. Thanks for all your input everyone! Want to get off work now and go home and play! Check out: http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/ and http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition.10/ for general guides and specific character guides. | ||
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On September 28 2011 23:44 dranko wrote: Check out: http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/ and http://shoryuken.com/forum/index.php?forums/super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-edition.10/ for general guides and specific character guides. TYVM! I found the eventhubs site yesterday but didn't know about the other one. Much appreciated! | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
I only bother saying that because I 100% sucked when trying to learn ryu at first and I hated it. Not knowing the right distances for fireballs and just getting jump combo'd all day made me super sadface. Different people learn different ways though. Some players I've met can play half the cast competently, and then there's someone I've met who I'm pretty sure has only ever picked Guile his entire life. Whatever keeps the game fun for you. Alternatively, if you really enjoy rock paper scissors instead of street fighter, you can always just play fuerte D: On September 28 2011 15:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: this is backwards in AE, cammy is a footsie character now. ken has the shenanigans, cheap beggar's vortex stuff like sakura That made me sad realizing it was true. Infested blew me up a while back using ryu as a rushdown character, and it has me convinced that it's more effective played that way instead of the traditional fireball zoning route. | ||
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Ursad0n
United States523 Posts
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Crazyseal
United Kingdom259 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:52 Ursad0n wrote: So how does one go about starting to play, because I just got it for the xbox cause my friend told me to get it, but I can't find a good site for strategies and the basic shit. I think I've settled on Ibuki unless there's some reason not to. I don't have the gamepad thing yet but I might get it soon. If your brand new to the game i suggest doing the trails and arcade mode just to get seated with the game and learn the inputs and when to use them. Alongside that training mode is really good to test out the bread and butter combos that people suggest. Then from their the xbox live is your oyster, you will be paired vs players your skill so just go for it! you will only get better by playing on-line. As for character choice, Ibuki is a nice starting character, however her move set is a little unquie and most of her moves have a very specific purpose, for either frame traps or unblockables, but any character is good to start! GLHF! | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On September 29 2011 03:52 Ursad0n wrote: So how does one go about starting to play, because I just got it for the xbox cause my friend told me to get it, but I can't find a good site for strategies and the basic shit. I think I've settled on Ibuki unless there's some reason not to. I don't have the gamepad thing yet but I might get it soon. To help get started, here are some really good places to go: http://shoryuken.com/ The closest thing Street Fighter has to a TeamLiquid.net. Best site for in depth discussion as well as support for players of all skill levels (for beginners, check out the "Newbie Saikyo Dojo" in the forums). You can also check the character specific forums for some good discussion on each character (Matchups, Strategies, Combos, etc). Check out "Tournaments and Events" for streams for the tons of tournaments you can check out. http://www.eventhubs.com/ Another good site for fighting games. Shoryuken.com (SRK) has better discussion but eventhubs is better at posting news promptly an have some pretty useful articles to check out under SSF4 AE. http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade Best Youtube channel for beginner tutorials imo. There's a lot to cover obviously but this guy does it well. http://ssf4tutorialvideos.blogspot.com/2011/07/street-fighter-4-tutorial-videos.html Once you're familiar with the basics, you can go here for more character specific video tutorials. Some of them are from Vanilla SF4 but many of the concepts still apply depending on the character. http://www.youtube.com/user/Ov3rheadGreg VoDs galore ^^ There are many good channels for SSF4 AE VoDs but this is one of the more notable ones currently. That's all that come to mind right now. I'll update this post if I remember any important ones. As for character choice, personally I am kinda iffy about Ibuki as a starting character. I just think she's one of the more advanced characters in the game and you may have more difficulty with her than with most characters (as far as learning the game fundamentals I mean). That being said, if you really enjoy the character and plan on sticking to her, by all means do so. No sense in playing a character you enjoy less  . | ||
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metaphoR
United States199 Posts
ps. take this with a grain of salt | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Some of the better beginner characters in my opinion, in no order: Ryu, Ken, Chun-li, Guile, Balrog (Boxer), Bison (Dictator), Sagat, & Fei Long. I'm not very sure, but I would think Yun and Akuma also make good beginner characters. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On September 29 2011 05:25 kainzero wrote: i feel like you can learn to play the game with any character.... maybe hakan and el fuerte are the exceptions to that but really you can learn solid fundamentals with all the other characters. True, any character in the game can be used to learn how to play the game with that specific character. However, the characters I listed above are better characters to have a more general understanding of the game rather than a character specific perspective. Although both are very important in Street Fighter, I believe the former to be more important for a beginner to learn. For example, if a beginner were to choose Dhalsim, he will be able to learn a lot of the tactics and tools that make the character that is Dhalsim. But the problem he faces is that many of Dhalsim's tools are very specific to Dhalsim himself and maybe a couple other characters. The same can be said for characters such as Gen, Oni, Juri, Vega and so on. On the other hand, if a beginner were to choose a character such as Ryu, learn the fundamentals of Ryu's game, he has more that can translate over to many characters in the cast. Ryu's Haduken is one of the better and most basic fireballs in the game. His Shoryuken is a staple antiair special and reversal. His list of normal moves are among the most basic in the game. Characters such as Chun-li and Ken can teach beginners the importance of footsies and poking. Guile and Balrog are very simple charge characters with excellent normals that help get beginners into the habit of blocking as well. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 28 2011 15:33 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: this is backwards in AE, cammy is a footsie character now. ken has the shenanigans, cheap beggar's vortex stuff like sakura herp i guess i should have played ae but i love my MAHVEL BABY | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 29 2011 06:33 semantics wrote: herp i guess i should have played ae but i love my MAHVEL BABY poor guy. if you like cammy you'd love her now, even though cammy players complain endessly she's still well within the top 10, still maintains her strong matchups over important high tier characters (akuma, ken, etc), just doesn't have meterless tkcs bullshit, which was dropped in favor of superior normals. her s.mk and s.rh are really strong zoning tools right now, and they shaved a ton of frames off the rest of her normals | ||
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LennyLeonard
United States48 Posts
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Ursad0n
United States523 Posts
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