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klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
August 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#2381
On August 19 2011 03:05 novabossa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:59 PeaNuT_T wrote:
I'm buying a Madcatz TE stick for the playstation 3 this friday and was planning on buying SSF4AE for the pc, and I have some questions.
I know that the ps3 uses a USB port but can I still plug my stick into the computer and have it work with SSF4AE for the PC?

Thanks in advance.


Yes, it will work. I recently got a Hori V3 for PS3, and it works fine with my PC. Just plug in, config, and play


it depends entirely on drivers.
PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 18 2011 18:07 GMT
#2382
On August 19 2011 03:05 novabossa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:59 PeaNuT_T wrote:
I'm buying a Madcatz TE stick for the playstation 3 this friday and was planning on buying SSF4AE for the pc, and I have some questions.
I know that the ps3 uses a USB port but can I still plug my stick into the computer and have it work with SSF4AE for the PC?

Thanks in advance.


Yes, it will work. I recently got a Hori V3 for PS3, and it works fine with my PC. Just plug in, config, and play


Thanks really appreciated the fast respone definately buying a copy of SSF4AE for the PC then!
iNcontrol, IdrA,Lz, Strifecro, Axslav, Machine, Demuslim! EG Fighting!!!~~
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:09:25
August 18 2011 18:08 GMT
#2383
On August 19 2011 02:49 Ko1tz wrote:
Well, not sure if if I can post this here, but I have been wanting to learn to use Sagat/Juri (the characters I feel the most confortable with, especially Sagat) but I can't seem to find ways to improve, or how am I supposed to play those characters. I saw some videos of Sagat played by pro's and all I see is tons of zoning, keeping the guy away...or something, can't really tell.

So yeah, if anybody could help me out it would be greatly appreciated!


For sagat, your biggest tools will be st.hk as a poke and anti air from certain ranges (seriously mash this button you'll be amazed how often it makes good things happen), towards + hk (this is your far anti air, can combo into ultra or just tiger knee if it hits), fireballs to keepaway (be careful when they're about half a screen away, if they pre emptively jump a fireball at this range you'll get slammed), tiger knees for pressure (light is used for pressure, medium is a decent anti air), and uppercuts for up close anti airs.

st.lk and cr.lk are also boss when people get close to push them out a bit into cr.mk xx fireball.

there's a ton more technical stuff, of course, but starting out the hk will just solve problems for sagat, since it's 2 hits it even beats armor like balrogs ex rush punches.

The day zlasher stops talking about stuff he doesn't really know about is the day zlasher ceases to breathe imo. But it at least baited a few more knowledgeable players (like yourself, Luckbox) into the thread, so it aint all bad :>

@ Peanut, it should work fine. I've used both ps3 hori stick and 360 TE stick to play things on pc, haven't tried specifically a ps3 TE with the new AE port but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. Some people have reported the 360 TE as working easier with PC, so unless your friends play ps3 or something that could be the wiser choice.

edit: boo, I got ninja'd. my tl apm is clearly too low
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:16:32
August 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#2384
On August 19 2011 02:30 Zlasher wrote:
From everything I hear from top players in that game, there are really only two truly relevant characters which are Makoto and like...Plat or something right?


definitely not. not worth talking about character relevance because its just a discussion of matchups in which maybe 3 characters are fucked.

ps. makoto embodies everything that game should be. she's closer to a GG character than BB.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 18 2011 18:28 GMT
#2385
On August 19 2011 03:00 Luckbox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:30 Zlasher wrote:
But thats BBCS2, and its Evo, its not like a lot of top players showed up, isn't the better or equally valid example ReveLAtions where that one top japanese guy showed up and just rapefaced EVERYONE with Makoto Nanaya?


So a Hakumen player winning evo isn't relevant because no top japanese players showed up, but revelations shows character imbalance because a makoto won ( despite being played by an elite japanese player ).


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:30 Zlasher wrote:
From everything I hear from top players in that game, there are really only two truly relevant characters which are Makoto and like...Plat or something right?


Plat isn't even top 8 in character picks, so essentially you're just asserting things about something you don't really know about.

Makoto Tager is like 65/35 and thats the best character vs the worst character.


I must be mixing it up with someone I can't really remember.

On August 19 2011 03:08 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:49 Ko1tz wrote:
Well, not sure if if I can post this here, but I have been wanting to learn to use Sagat/Juri (the characters I feel the most confortable with, especially Sagat) but I can't seem to find ways to improve, or how am I supposed to play those characters. I saw some videos of Sagat played by pro's and all I see is tons of zoning, keeping the guy away...or something, can't really tell.

So yeah, if anybody could help me out it would be greatly appreciated!

The day zlasher stops talking about stuff he doesn't really know about is the day zlasher ceases to breathe imo. But it at least baited a few more knowledgeable players (like yourself, Luckbox) into the thread, so it aint all bad :>


Thanks bro, instead of talking as if I'm not reading this just say it to me and stop being a little bitch. I never said I knew about BBCS2 I just went off of what my friend told me, who mains BBCS2 and was a former top 3 finisher in evo for guilty gear. Believe it or not I trust his word a fuckton more than I'll ever trust yours or pretty much anyones in a team liquid fighting game thread.

User was warned for this post
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:42:59
August 18 2011 18:39 GMT
#2386
where da lub guys

with summer jam around da corner my sakura could use some moar tech :>

edit: also excal thanks for the info on that jumpin tech. i still keep overusing j.mk in which case it whiffs but at least im not embarrassingly eating a throw

dbl edit: tokido uses noel so tokido theory must mean noel is top tier and/or dirty right? iunno i only played CT and 2 matches of cs1. just sayin
Forever Young
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:48:11
August 18 2011 18:46 GMT
#2387
On August 19 2011 03:39 sung_moon wrote:
where da lub guys

with summer jam around da corner my sakura could use some moar tech :>

edit: also excal thanks for the info on that jumpin tech. i still keep overusing j.mk in which case it whiffs but at least im not embarrassingly eating a throw

dbl edit: tokido uses noel so tokido theory must mean noel is top tier and/or dirty right? iunno i only played CT and 2 matches of cs1. just sayin


noel is good & simple to learn. good for someone like tokido who focuses on 13 games at once.

plus shes hot.
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
August 18 2011 18:52 GMT
#2388
On August 19 2011 03:39 sung_moon wrote:
dbl edit: tokido uses noel so tokido theory must mean noel is top tier and/or dirty right? iunno i only played CT and 2 matches of cs1. just sayin


Noel is solid, probably the top 2-3 characters after Makoto.
Dirty dirty character for sure.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 18 2011 18:53 GMT
#2389
On August 19 2011 03:08 Trumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:49 Ko1tz wrote:
Well, not sure if if I can post this here, but I have been wanting to learn to use Sagat/Juri (the characters I feel the most confortable with, especially Sagat) but I can't seem to find ways to improve, or how am I supposed to play those characters. I saw some videos of Sagat played by pro's and all I see is tons of zoning, keeping the guy away...or something, can't really tell.

So yeah, if anybody could help me out it would be greatly appreciated!


For sagat, your biggest tools will be st.hk as a poke and anti air from certain ranges (seriously mash this button you'll be amazed how often it makes good things happen), towards + hk (this is your far anti air, can combo into ultra or just tiger knee if it hits), fireballs to keepaway (be careful when they're about half a screen away, if they pre emptively jump a fireball at this range you'll get slammed), tiger knees for pressure (light is used for pressure, medium is a decent anti air), and uppercuts for up close anti airs.

st.lk and cr.lk are also boss when people get close to push them out a bit into cr.mk xx fireball.

there's a ton more technical stuff, of course, but starting out the hk will just solve problems for sagat, since it's 2 hits it even beats armor like balrogs ex rush punches.

The day zlasher stops talking about stuff he doesn't really know about is the day zlasher ceases to breathe imo. But it at least baited a few more knowledgeable players (like yourself, Luckbox) into the thread, so it aint all bad :>

@ Peanut, it should work fine. I've used both ps3 hori stick and 360 TE stick to play things on pc, haven't tried specifically a ps3 TE with the new AE port but I see no reason why it shouldn't work. Some people have reported the 360 TE as working easier with PC, so unless your friends play ps3 or something that could be the wiser choice.

edit: boo, I got ninja'd. my tl apm is clearly too low

As a zangief player, I will attest that st.hk is the most OP shit in the game, that and his ridiculous ability to spam tiger shot.

Once sagat is in the corner though, he's in a lot of trouble. Crossups will stuff uppercuts, your ground speed is bad, basically it's the position you want to get out of ASAP
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 18 2011 19:00 GMT
#2390
On August 18 2011 11:37 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!

Player bases generally go like this:
Xbox>PC>PS3 (do note that consoles do have higher skill pools when compared to PC). On TL, apparently everyone but me uses PC lol

I have no trouble finding a game on XBL. Ping isn't bad, just find people with green bars.

If you are starting, pick a character you like (preferably a shoto since they are very basic) and learn their moves. You will get raped when you start out (think BW), but once you learn the combos and matchups, you will win a bit more consistently. Alternatively, you can just be an online warrior and SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN


Ok, thanks a lot. So those characters would be like Ryu, Ken, and Sakura, or something like that? (Bear with me I've only ever played a bit of Streetfighter 4 before for fun, and watched a couple videos and part of EVO of AE)

On August 19 2011 03:02 novabossa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!


XBL and PSN have the larger player bases. I think XBL has a bigger one, but don't quote me on that. The only thing I know for certain is that GFWL (Games for Windows Live, the multiplayer platform used on PC) is absolutely terrible.

As for a beginner tutorial, this is one of the best entry guides out there: http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade#p/c/744144A71C67D816

Also: as teamliquid.net is to Starcraft, shoryuken.com is to Street Fighter.


Ok, thanks. I've had to deal with GFWL with other stuff like DoW:2, but I didn't know SSF4 was on it too. -_- That's probably going to influence my decision.

Thanks for the video, I'll give it a watch right now. I've also heard and been on shoryuken, but wasn't sure if there were other site or if that was the main one.

Thanks a lot, guys!
you gotta dance
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 18 2011 19:05 GMT
#2391
On August 19 2011 04:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 11:37 101toss wrote:
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!

Player bases generally go like this:
Xbox>PC>PS3 (do note that consoles do have higher skill pools when compared to PC). On TL, apparently everyone but me uses PC lol

I have no trouble finding a game on XBL. Ping isn't bad, just find people with green bars.

If you are starting, pick a character you like (preferably a shoto since they are very basic) and learn their moves. You will get raped when you start out (think BW), but once you learn the combos and matchups, you will win a bit more consistently. Alternatively, you can just be an online warrior and SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN


Ok, thanks a lot. So those characters would be like Ryu, Ken, and Sakura, or something like that? (Bear with me I've only ever played a bit of Streetfighter 4 before for fun, and watched a couple videos and part of EVO of AE)

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 03:02 novabossa wrote:
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!


XBL and PSN have the larger player bases. I think XBL has a bigger one, but don't quote me on that. The only thing I know for certain is that GFWL (Games for Windows Live, the multiplayer platform used on PC) is absolutely terrible.

As for a beginner tutorial, this is one of the best entry guides out there: http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade#p/c/744144A71C67D816

Also: as teamliquid.net is to Starcraft, shoryuken.com is to Street Fighter.


Ok, thanks. I've had to deal with GFWL with other stuff like DoW:2, but I didn't know SSF4 was on it too. -_- That's probably going to influence my decision.

Thanks for the video, I'll give it a watch right now. I've also heard and been on shoryuken, but wasn't sure if there were other site or if that was the main one.

Thanks a lot, guys!

Pretty much any of those characters are good to start with.

Also, just like how SRK is to TL, eventhubs is to liquipedia, it's got frame data, health ratings, moves, combos, pretty much general information about characters.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 18 2011 21:01 GMT
#2392
the secret to shoryuken is to post in match-finder forums only.

you can read everything else

but posting in their forums is so overrated
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 18 2011 21:15 GMT
#2393
On August 19 2011 03:39 sung_moon wrote:
where da lub guys

with summer jam around da corner my sakura could use some moar tech :>

edit: also excal thanks for the info on that jumpin tech. i still keep overusing j.mk in which case it whiffs but at least im not embarrassingly eating a throw

dbl edit: tokido uses noel so tokido theory must mean noel is top tier and/or dirty right? iunno i only played CT and 2 matches of cs1. just sayin


did you seriously switch to sakura? lol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 18 2011 21:17 GMT
#2394
On August 19 2011 04:05 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 04:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On August 18 2011 11:37 101toss wrote:
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!

Player bases generally go like this:
Xbox>PC>PS3 (do note that consoles do have higher skill pools when compared to PC). On TL, apparently everyone but me uses PC lol

I have no trouble finding a game on XBL. Ping isn't bad, just find people with green bars.

If you are starting, pick a character you like (preferably a shoto since they are very basic) and learn their moves. You will get raped when you start out (think BW), but once you learn the combos and matchups, you will win a bit more consistently. Alternatively, you can just be an online warrior and SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN


Ok, thanks a lot. So those characters would be like Ryu, Ken, and Sakura, or something like that? (Bear with me I've only ever played a bit of Streetfighter 4 before for fun, and watched a couple videos and part of EVO of AE)

On August 19 2011 03:02 novabossa wrote:
On August 18 2011 07:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Hey, so I've come to the conclusion that I want to actually pick up SSF4:AE.

However, I'm still deciding on what platform I should play it on, between Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. I don't own a stick for any of them, so I'll start out by playing just on the pad/keyboard.

So, what I'm wondering, is:

What are the player bases like for each platform, and how easy is it to find a game?
What is the netcode (hope I'm using the right word) like, and what is there a noticeable difference in lag between platforms?
What is you personal preference, if you've played or own the game on multiple platforms?

Also, if anyone has some words on just good ways to start learning and playing the game, that would be cool too :p.

If anyone feels like answering these question, I'd be much obliged.

Thanks!


XBL and PSN have the larger player bases. I think XBL has a bigger one, but don't quote me on that. The only thing I know for certain is that GFWL (Games for Windows Live, the multiplayer platform used on PC) is absolutely terrible.

As for a beginner tutorial, this is one of the best entry guides out there: http://www.youtube.com/user/VesperArcade#p/c/744144A71C67D816

Also: as teamliquid.net is to Starcraft, shoryuken.com is to Street Fighter.


Ok, thanks. I've had to deal with GFWL with other stuff like DoW:2, but I didn't know SSF4 was on it too. -_- That's probably going to influence my decision.

Thanks for the video, I'll give it a watch right now. I've also heard and been on shoryuken, but wasn't sure if there were other site or if that was the main one.

Thanks a lot, guys!

Pretty much any of those characters are good to start with.

Also, just like how SRK is to TL, eventhubs is to liquipedia, it's got frame data, health ratings, moves, combos, pretty much general information about characters.


some of the eventhubs frame data is inaccurate, just fyi lol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
August 18 2011 21:28 GMT
#2395
I try to avoid posting at SRK because my mindset shifts to that of an angry black man, which I am definitely not.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 18 2011 21:40 GMT
#2396
On August 19 2011 06:28 broz0rs wrote:
I try to avoid posting at SRK because my mindset shifts to that of an angry black man, which I am definitely not.

This is sad but true
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
August 18 2011 21:55 GMT
#2397
SRK is a garbage forum, poorly coded, poorly moderated, just really poor in general. unfortunately it's the only forum
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
August 18 2011 22:01 GMT
#2398
Neogaf is a much better community than SRK.
www.youtube.com/gryffes - Random Gaming Videos.
Gyabo
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States329 Posts
August 18 2011 22:05 GMT
#2399
On August 19 2011 03:07 PeaNuT_T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 03:05 novabossa wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:59 PeaNuT_T wrote:
I'm buying a Madcatz TE stick for the playstation 3 this friday and was planning on buying SSF4AE for the pc, and I have some questions.
I know that the ps3 uses a USB port but can I still plug my stick into the computer and have it work with SSF4AE for the PC?

Thanks in advance.


Yes, it will work. I recently got a Hori V3 for PS3, and it works fine with my PC. Just plug in, config, and play


Thanks really appreciated the fast respone definately buying a copy of SSF4AE for the PC then!

I have a Madcatz TE for PS3 and I can confirm that it DOES NOT work on the pc, UNLESS you have an Intel or VIA chipset.
However, there is a workaround...you can buy a USB PCI card that has the appropriate chipset, such as this one, which is what I did to be able to play SSF4AE on my pc.

So I would recommend that you take a look at your motherboard first to see what kind of chipset you have. If you have the more common Nvidia or AMD chipset, then either get a 360 stick or be prepared to get a USB card (which is cheap anyways, just make sure your motherboard has an available PCI slot).
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 18 2011 22:34 GMT
#2400
On August 19 2011 06:55 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
SRK is a garbage forum, poorly coded, poorly moderated, just really poor in general. unfortunately it's the only forum

You also have TL, where genei jin data is posted as normal frame data lol
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
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