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On June 24 2021 16:26 Archeon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2021 05:19 Manit0u wrote:On June 24 2021 04:33 Archeon wrote:
I played Fireball+Forb through hell and it definitely was strong. Orb is very useful for clearing trash like the teleporting act 5 goblins and somewhat decent as a single target source if you hit them right. It can't compete with fireball's single target dps, but it is a great cast and run spell that will slow and damage most of the screen.
You can always just go full cold with ice blast + blizzard. With the synergies and right gear blizzard does like 8k damage. It's important to get cold mastery up so you get -150% to resists too (just remember it doesn't break immunities). Death's Fathom is the key item to get for +15-30% cold damage. I mean sure full cold has more firepower than a hybrid build, but honestly I think one of the advantages of the sorc is that you can very gear independently run through hell because you can hybrid fairly easily. Like yes, you loose out on some dps and you can skip most of the enemies with teleport anyways, but with cold+fire you don't have to because few enemies are immune to both.
Fire is bad on Hell, non synergized Fire as main is terribad on Hell, Fire as a ~20-40pts support is OK!
Imo best is invest in good A2HFMerc, well equipped Merc can farm alone :D
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On June 24 2021 16:36 heronn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2021 05:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah the crap thing about sorc is cold and lightning need ridiculously hard to find items.
deaths fathom, griffons, infinity etc.
personally i gave up on trying to complete a lightning build on either my sorc or javazon with plugy because i just couldnt be fked grinding till i found them Dual Spirit + Enlightenment + Lore + rdm amu1-2sk and GO, You can farm qbugged Andy and qbugged Meph with moat trick untill You find Occy/Shako/Viper. Sorc is the best MFer. If You dont like this type of farming just make a Hammer or Summoner so can farm all content naked xD
i know how to farm the items. im saying the grind gets boring too fast for me. i dont have mrllama or dbrunskis patience when it comes to doing runs, which means im not going to find items like deaths fathom or griffons.
though to be fair if i actually did try and grind id probably find mang songs faster than llama did
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On June 24 2021 16:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2021 16:36 heronn wrote:On June 24 2021 05:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah the crap thing about sorc is cold and lightning need ridiculously hard to find items.
deaths fathom, griffons, infinity etc.
personally i gave up on trying to complete a lightning build on either my sorc or javazon with plugy because i just couldnt be fked grinding till i found them Dual Spirit + Enlightenment + Lore + rdm amu1-2sk and GO, You can farm qbugged Andy and qbugged Meph with moat trick untill You find Occy/Shako/Viper. Sorc is the best MFer. If You dont like this type of farming just make a Hammer or Summoner so can farm all content naked xD i know how to farm the items. im saying the grind gets boring too fast for me. i dont have mrllama or dbrunskis patience when it comes to doing runs, which means im not going to find items like deaths fathom or griffons. though to be fair if i actually did try and grind id probably find mang songs faster than llama did
I dont know what I can to say, if D2 is boring for You just dont play it lol
Read my posts, You nn Fathom, Griffon, CoA2sox and other top end at all to be effective in farming. These type of items are must have for PvP eg Enigma.
If You dont have patience You can always use rmt/jsp and buy these items if You want them so much. DII has open trade system.
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On June 24 2021 17:53 heronn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2021 16:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:On June 24 2021 16:36 heronn wrote:On June 24 2021 05:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah the crap thing about sorc is cold and lightning need ridiculously hard to find items.
deaths fathom, griffons, infinity etc.
personally i gave up on trying to complete a lightning build on either my sorc or javazon with plugy because i just couldnt be fked grinding till i found them Dual Spirit + Enlightenment + Lore + rdm amu1-2sk and GO, You can farm qbugged Andy and qbugged Meph with moat trick untill You find Occy/Shako/Viper. Sorc is the best MFer. If You dont like this type of farming just make a Hammer or Summoner so can farm all content naked xD i know how to farm the items. im saying the grind gets boring too fast for me. i dont have mrllama or dbrunskis patience when it comes to doing runs, which means im not going to find items like deaths fathom or griffons. though to be fair if i actually did try and grind id probably find mang songs faster than llama did I dont know what I can to say, if D2 is boring for You just dont play it lol Read my posts, You nn Fathom, Griffon, CoA2sox and other top end at all to be effective in farming. These type of items are must have for PvP eg Enigma. If You dont have patience You can always use rmt/jsp and buy these items if You want them so much. DII has open trade system.
you dont have to say anything. i never invited on you to comment lol
i dont even play on bnet, i play on plugy just like dingodile
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On June 24 2021 19:43 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2021 17:53 heronn wrote:On June 24 2021 16:45 evilfatsh1t wrote:On June 24 2021 16:36 heronn wrote:On June 24 2021 05:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah the crap thing about sorc is cold and lightning need ridiculously hard to find items.
deaths fathom, griffons, infinity etc.
personally i gave up on trying to complete a lightning build on either my sorc or javazon with plugy because i just couldnt be fked grinding till i found them Dual Spirit + Enlightenment + Lore + rdm amu1-2sk and GO, You can farm qbugged Andy and qbugged Meph with moat trick untill You find Occy/Shako/Viper. Sorc is the best MFer. If You dont like this type of farming just make a Hammer or Summoner so can farm all content naked xD i know how to farm the items. im saying the grind gets boring too fast for me. i dont have mrllama or dbrunskis patience when it comes to doing runs, which means im not going to find items like deaths fathom or griffons. though to be fair if i actually did try and grind id probably find mang songs faster than llama did I dont know what I can to say, if D2 is boring for You just dont play it lol Read my posts, You nn Fathom, Griffon, CoA2sox and other top end at all to be effective in farming. These type of items are must have for PvP eg Enigma. If You dont have patience You can always use rmt/jsp and buy these items if You want them so much. DII has open trade system. you dont have to say anything. i never invited on you to comment lol i dont even play on bnet, i play on plugy just like dingodile
I dont need your invite to comment posts on this forum lol, incuding your drama posts lol
If You have some problems with me, we can duel, 1v1 on Asgard serv, hard toxic mode on we playing satanic game.
Griffon is not as good as ppl think due to Shako or Tal Helm with some pieces of TalSet. There is cheap RW aka Crescent Moon (-35lres) also. Generally Light alone is not impessive w/o Infinity and if you get Infy Griffon is nn or you are just these type of purist who needs -60lres before Conv aura even activate.
Just forcing myself to playing a grind game where I cant find "desirable" items which are not a must have for effective grinding and crying about it sounds idiotic to me, D2 is about hard grind, if you dont like it, dont play it! Better go play some BW games lol
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I think you can enjoy d2 however you like and that goes for evilfatsh1t too. I like the leveling phase more than the endgame phase, so I can definitely get where he's coming from, I found the grind too repetitive as well.
90% of my items came from trading runes when I was more active, on a time spent scale you're guaranteed better off trading than farming if progression is all you care about.
Countess prolly has a better reward per run return per time than Baal considering that low runes can be very easily sold for items in the pul-category if you find someone who's looking for them for a runeword. So yes, diablo 2 is very grindy if you're looking to farm specific items because you're playing offline or don't want to trade.
Also nobody ever needs the high gear to clear content, as proven again and again you can clear the full content quite fast basically naked if you know what you're doing.
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is there a d2 version of d3planner/maxroll.gg?
armor1: 700 defense and 0 allresis
armor2: 100 defense and +25 allresis
I guess armor1 is better (for hell)?
about the grey labeled (sockets) items: I noticed that some items have required level in order to equip them. I have some (lvl25 and lvl 42 and ofcourse much better stats then items without level requirement) but I am sure there is the next stage sometime. When?
I don't feel good to use a lvl25 grey labeled sword (runeword spirit) when I am lvl64.
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TLDR: Ignore defense on sorc and go for low tier bases.
On defense:
Defense is used against attack rating to calculate hitchance. Spells (which is the majority of the ranged attacks) ignore it. Also defense gets effectively nullified while running, so unless you've got insight and never move your feet anymore it often doesn't work while kiting.
Defense is like a lot of d2 defensive systems: High values increase your ehp exponentially, so you either put a lot in or you completely ignore it. Resistances work the same way, but due to how common fire and lightning are and how much damage these enemies deal you always want to cap on fire and lightning res.
Since sorc doesn't want to have high strength (unless you go for the RW spirit in a shield), is ranged and a lot of good uniques have abysmal defense values I'd go allres every time given the choice unless I'm close to the cap on fire/lightning and effectively wasting most of the +25.
And then I'd prolly still get the +resistance armor and look to swap another slot out, because the only relevant traits on non-unique/set-armors are res, life, FHR and defense, so they are mostly used to fix allres. Which is one of the reasons the typical pauper ranged armor is a 4-slot with perfect diamonds.
Defense is a lot more viable on chars that are melee and have defense buffs like paladin, but on ranged chars pretty much always ignore it.
On bases:
There's no reason to swap out your spirit sword for a better sword because all you'd get is melee damage while you might have to stat more strength or dex to use the base. Since defense is meh at best on sorc, the only runewords where a good base matters is merc-gear. For everything else you want a low base so you can to wear it early and then give it to another char while leveling once you find something better.
This is again very different if you play a char and according runeword that uses defense or weapon damage, but for stuff like spirit all you want is something to carry it in.
But yes, I there are drop tables for bases if you're curious at what level upgrades drop.
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wow that is a long post. thank you.
I am in act 2 now. I just teleported to andariel and she was very easy, probably the easiest opponent I faced in act1 hell...
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Np I tried to shorten it, but it's tough to get that info across much shorter without loosing out on the explanation.
Yeah Andy is a pushover in any difficulty. Poison pots basically neutralize her, but she's guaranteed to kill the merc every time. She's also vulnerable to fire, so high lvl fireball wrecks her.
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On June 25 2021 04:54 Dingodile wrote:
wow that is a long post. thank you.
I am in act 2 now. I just teleported to andariel and she was very easy, probably the easiest opponent I faced in act1 hell...
probably too late to bring up now but hopefully you bugged her for the quest loot
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I have never heard about bugged stuff.
So far I understand you have to talk to warriv after you killed andariel in the same session?! This is exactly what I did.
1st kill Andariel only dropped nonsense (and no single green or dark gold labeled item).
I really need better runes because my merc need better items. But I cant kill countess (immune to fire and cold) and my merc was killed ~5 times by countess each run.
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farming andariel is good if you dont want to farm mephisto yet.
she has good drops for rings, amulets and a lot of other decent uniques.
for high runes theres no solution except to play a shitload in hell. even bosses have extremely poor rune drops.
there is a certain run you can do that is supposed to give you the best return in runes but its hands down the most boring run. look up lower kurast chest runs
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On June 25 2021 22:12 Dingodile wrote:
I have never heard about bugged stuff.
So far I understand you have to talk to warriv after you killed andariel in the same session?! This is exactly what I did.
1st kill Andariel only dropped nonsense (and no single green or dark gold labeled item).
I really need better runes because my merc need better items. But I cant kill countess (immune to fire and cold) and my merc was killed ~5 times by countess each run.
Surprised your merc dies that much, you're using static to bring her low and feed him pots, right?
IIRC hell-quest Andy has the highest or at least one of the highest Stone of oJordan-drop rates, an item you definitely want on sorc.
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On June 26 2021 00:51 Archeon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2021 22:12 Dingodile wrote:
I have never heard about bugged stuff.
So far I understand you have to talk to warriv after you killed andariel in the same session?! This is exactly what I did.
1st kill Andariel only dropped nonsense (and no single green or dark gold labeled item).
I really need better runes because my merc need better items. But I cant kill countess (immune to fire and cold) and my merc was killed ~5 times by countess each run. Surprised your merc dies that much, you're using static to bring her low and feed him pots, right? IIRC hell-quest Andy has the highest or at least one of the highest Stone of oJordan-drop rates, an item you definitely want on sorc.
NM Andy has the highest rate, but not worth farming imho. IF NM Andy drops a unique ring the chance for it to be SOJ is 1/31. It's not worth it unless you have some kind of maphack and don't mind doing the same task over and over and over and over...
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I dont use static because it makes no difference at all. I have tried it several times, in normal, nightmare and hell. it does nothing.
My merc (from act2 nigthmare) is strong for nightmare act5 but very very weak for act1 hell. He even cant survive at cold plains and he needs a lot attacks to kill one monster. He (lvl67) is using an 700 defense armor (allresis are at 75) and a 17-113 dmg polearm.
I have been looking for a 4 socket polearm (runeword insight) since nightmare act1. I already found all 4 runes at normal.
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whats your level in static?
clearly youre not standing close enough to the boss for static to work. at hell it only brings hp down to 50% but thats still pretty big considering how quickly you can cast static.
at lvl 1 you pretty much have to stand right next to the boss.
also are you clearing all mobs as you go or just running through? seems weird that you havent seen a single 4 socket polearm as theyre not that rare.
keep in mind though even with insight your merc will still die a lot and he wont kill things that much better.
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Life leech and is very important to keep your merc alive. Also use shift+1234 to give him Health pots straight from your belt.
Get an ethereal pole arm if you can. Mercs cannot break durability on items and they have higher base damage. 17-113 is very weak for hell.
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clvl? My sorc is lvl68 and my merc is lvl67
My merc need better defense. defense of 1500 in total and allresis are at 75 isn't enough at all to survive 3 attacks from any monster at act1 and act2 hell. How to improve this if you dont have the runes?
I think I made another mistake. After collecting horadric shaft and horadric amulett in hell I transmute them in nightmare. The horadric staff is red labeled when I am in hell.
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